Obama to lift HIV/AIDS travel ban

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    Oct 30, 2009 6:38 PM GMT
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    Washington (CNN) -- President Obama announced Friday that he will lift a 22-year-old ban on entry into the United States for people infected with HIV/AIDS.

    The administration intends to publish a new federal rule next week eliminating the ban by the start of 2010, he said.

    "We talk about reducing the stigma of this disease, yet we've treated a visitor living with it as a threat," he said at the White House. "If we want to be the global leader in combating HIV/AIDS, we need to act like it."

    Obama said that lifting the ban is a "step that will encourage people to get tested and get treatment. It's a step that will keep families together, and it's a step that will save lives."

    The United States, he said, is one of only a dozen countries that still bar the entry of people with HIV.

    Obama made the announcement shortly before signing legislation extending federally funded HIV/AIDS treatment for hundreds of thousands of underinsured, low-income Americans.

    The Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act authorizes a 5 percent annual increase in federal support over the next four years. Funding under the law is scheduled to rise from more than $2.5 billion in fiscal year 2010 to nearly $3 billion in fiscal year 2013.

    Among other things, the law helps ensure continued funding for the Minority AIDS Initiative, designed to address "the disproportionate impact of the disease on racial and ethnic minorities," according to a White House statement.

    The measure easily passed both the Senate and the House of Representatives last week. Similar legislation first passed almost 20 years ago and was reauthorized in 1996, 2000 and 2006.

    An estimated 1 million people in the United States have HIV, according the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Almost one-quarter of them are not aware that they are infected, the CDC says.
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    Oct 30, 2009 6:52 PM GMT
    GOBAMA!
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    Oct 30, 2009 6:57 PM GMT
    About. Fucking. Time.

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    Oct 30, 2009 7:02 PM GMT
    Obama also will insure(give medical benefits) those coming into this country with HIV and we have American born people who don't have health coverage????icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 30, 2009 7:12 PM GMT
    Where is he getting all this money from? I thought we are already running a deficit.
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    Oct 30, 2009 8:46 PM GMT
    its amazing how the majority of the human population practices and believes in religious philosophys; however when it comes down to it they scrutinize and plague any good morals.

    Yes, Obama is going to raise your taxes, or borrow it from future generations. However, he is not the antichrist. I believe obama is setting the correct leadership, especially when it comes to morals and principles. Obama has a true heart, which is exemplified through his legislations he'd like to practice.

    God intended us to live as a community- not classes. When we can successfully achieve this then we no longer need excess divine intervention.
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    Oct 30, 2009 8:53 PM GMT
    "Obama also will insure(give medical benefits) those coming into this country with HIV and we have American born people who don't have health coverage????"
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    This is news to me.
    Can you direct me to a source that states this ?
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    rockinb saidits amazing how the majority of the human population practices and believes in religious philosophys; however when it comes down to it they scrutinize and plague any good morals.

    Yes, Obama is going to raise your taxes, or borrow it from future generations. However, he is not the antichrist. I believe obama is setting the correct leadership, especially when it comes to morals and principles. Obama has a true heart, which is exemplified through his legislations he'd like to practice.

    God intended us to live as a community- not classes. When we can successfully achieve this then we no longer need excess divine intervention.


    If the government raises taxes any more, it's not going to help the middle class any, but send us all to the poor farm. there will be nothing left. WI wants to raise taxes on gas and also BEER. icon_sad.gif I've just about had enough of all these taxes and then the politicians use this tax money to give themself a raise.
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:04 PM GMT
    AMEN!!!....I been saying that for ever....WE can no longer take increase in taxes....Try living in NJ....LOL
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:04 PM GMT
    Obama isn't the antichrist because he's not a church leader.
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:11 PM GMT
    The ojective should be to raise people's income, not lower it. Taxes lower our spendable income. I've cut out a lot of frills already like eating out, cable tv, newspaper, and entertainment. I very rarrely go out anymore. I'm getting down to basic needs now like housing, transportation, and food. There's not much I can cut anymore, other than these basic needs.
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:23 PM GMT
    Webster666 said"Obama also will insure(give medical benefits) those coming into this country with HIV and we have American born people who don't have health coverage????"
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    The CDC estimates the the life time medical cost of those arriving in just the first yaer 94 million. It's expected that an average of 4,275 HIV infected people will enter the country annually (www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33553409/ns/health-aids).
    I can't help but wonder how objective everyone would be if they knew that the legislation was put in motion last year by G.W. Bush.
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:25 PM GMT
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    Webster666 said"Obama also will insure(give medical benefits) those coming into this country with HIV and we have American born people who don't have health coverage????"
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    The CDC estimates the the life time medical cost of those arriving in just the first yaer 94 million. It's expected that an average of 4,275 HIV infected people will enter the country annually ."www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33553409/ns/heal5th-aids
    I can't help but wonder how objective everyone would be if they knew that the legislation was put in motion last year by G.W. Bush.


    Are they coming here to get medical attention? Or are they coming to visit? Or are they immigrating?
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:29 PM GMT
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    Webster666 said"Obama also will insure(give medical benefits) those coming into this country with HIV and we have American born people who don't have health coverage????"
    _________________________________________________
    This is news to me.
    Can you direct me to a source that states this ?


    The CDC estimates the the life time medical cost of those arriving in just the first yaer 94 million. It's expected that an average of 4,275 HIV infected people will enter the country annually ."www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33553409/ns/heal5th-aids
    I can't help but wonder how objective everyone would be if they knew that the legislation was put in motion last year by G.W. Bush.


    Are they coming here to get medical attention? Or are they coming to visit? Or are they immigrating?


    I would imagine anyway you look at it $94 million in just the first year is an expensive visit !
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:29 PM GMT
    NOTHING in the cited article states that foreign citizens who travel here with HIV/AIDS will get free medical treatment. The second portion of the article is unrelated to the travel ban and states that Obama is also increasing aid for uninsured U.S. CITIZENS who have HIV/AIDS, not non-citizens. Both are all-around good and morally just moves. Nice job, Obama.
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:37 PM GMT
    The government has to learn to live within their means. I'd like to help more people, but there's a limit to the amount of help one can give. Our government is taxing people way too much already. You have to work almost a third of the year now, just to pay for all the taxes. That is ridiuculous. Property taxes on a modest 100,000 home here is about $2,400. That is really ridiculous. If you want to know why housing costs are so high, taxes is part of the problem.
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:39 PM GMT
    t0theheights saidNOTHING in the cited article states that foreign citizens who travel here with HIV/AIDS will get free medical treatment. The second portion of the article is unrelated to the travel ban and states that Obama is also increasing aid for uninsured U.S. CITIZENS who have HIV/AIDS, not non-citizens. Both are all-around good and morally just moves. Nice job, Obama.


    Yes, there is nothing that says a visitor will get free medical attention. But the wording of the document is somewhat ambiguous. Hence the reason why some people will state that they will

    But I'm sure that given the laxness of our institutions, some people will indeed come here and get free medical attention. After all there's always someone amongst us who see nothing wrong with "getting over on the system": aAnd will aid and abet.
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:41 PM GMT
    t0theheights saidNOTHING in the cited article states that foreign citizens who travel here with HIV/AIDS will get free medical treatment. The second portion of the article is unrelated to the travel ban and states that Obama is also increasing aid for uninsured U.S. CITIZENS who have HIV/AIDS, not non-citizens. Both are all-around good and morally just moves. Nice job, Obama.


    Not sure where you came up with that idea, but to quote the article; "Critics of proposal said they were leary of the change, which could allow an average of 4,275 HIV infected people into the country annually, with a lifetime medical cost of 94 million for those admitted during the first year, according to early CDC estimates."
    That really sounds unrelated to me and it really does sound as they are talking about the cost of benifits to US citizens and not non-citizens.
    And Like I said I wonder if everyone would be so objective if they knew it was a pet project of G. W. !
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
    And our cost of living here isn't half as bad here as CA. A lot of people aren't paying the bills anymore because we are being taxed to death. And if we think we are going to tax only the rich, that will NOT work because they WILL pass it on in higher prices on the middle class and poor.
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    t0theheights saidNOTHING in the cited article states that foreign citizens who travel here with HIV/AIDS will get free medical treatment. The second portion of the article is unrelated to the travel ban and states that Obama is also increasing aid for uninsured U.S. CITIZENS who have HIV/AIDS, not non-citizens. Both are all-around good and morally just moves. Nice job, Obama.


    Not sure where you came up with that idea, but to quote the article; "Critics of proposal said they were leary of the change, which could allow an average of 4,275 HIV infected people into the country annually, with a lifetime medical cost of 94 million for those admitted during the first year, according to early CDC estimates."
    That really sounds unrelated to me and it really does sound as they are talking about the cost of benifits to US citizens and not non-citizens.
    And Like I said I wonder if everyone would be so objective if they knew it was a pet project of G. W. !


    So then we are talking about people immigrating ?
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
    rockinb saidits amazing how the majority of the human population practices and believes in religious philosophys; however when it comes down to it they scrutinize and plague any good morals.

    Yes, Obama is going to raise your taxes, or borrow it from future generations. However, he is not the antichrist. I believe obama is setting the correct leadership, especially when it comes to morals and principles. Obama has a true heart, which is exemplified through his legislations he'd like to practice.

    God intended us to live as a community- not classes. When we can successfully achieve this then we no longer need excess divine intervention.


    I think it's immoral to make people not even born yet to pay for our spending.
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:51 PM GMT
    G_Force saidThe government has to learn to live within their means. I'd like to help more people, but there's a limit to the amount of help one can give. Our government is taxing people way too much already. You have to work almost a third of the year now, just to pay for all the taxes. That is ridiuculous. Property taxes on a modest 100,000 home here is about $2,400. That is really ridiculous. If you want to know why housing costs are so high, taxes is part of the problem.


    Property taxes are established by your local government, not the federal government. Property taxes are local taxes. Local officials appraise and set the value of your property, set your tax rates and collect your taxes. Property taxes help pay for local services. They help pay for public schools, city streets, county roads, police, fire protection and many other services. Therefore, if you have a problem with your property taxes, your issue is with your locally elected government officials.
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    t0theheights saidNOTHING in the cited article states that foreign citizens who travel here with HIV/AIDS will get free medical treatment. The second portion of the article is unrelated to the travel ban and states that Obama is also increasing aid for uninsured U.S. CITIZENS who have HIV/AIDS, not non-citizens. Both are all-around good and morally just moves. Nice job, Obama.


    "Critics of proposal have said they were leery of the change, which could allow an average of 4,275 HIV-infected people into the country annually, with a lifetime medical cost of about $94 million for this admitted during the first year, according to early CDC estimates."

    This statement is totally invalid, it makes the assertion that the "travelers" (who the ban was lifted on) are coming for "lifetime medical treatment". Under that assertion it is using travelers and immigrants synonymously, which isn't accurate.

    I agree that it is indeed an all-around good move.
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    t0theheights saidNOTHING in the cited article states that foreign citizens who travel here with HIV/AIDS will get free medical treatment. The second portion of the article is unrelated to the travel ban and states that Obama is also increasing aid for uninsured U.S. CITIZENS who have HIV/AIDS, not non-citizens. Both are all-around good and morally just moves. Nice job, Obama.


    Yes, there is nothing that says a visitor will get free medical attention. But the wording of the document is somewhat ambiguous. Hence the reason why some people will state that they will

    But I'm sure that given the laxness of our institutions, some people will indeed come here and get free medical attention. After all there's always someone amongst us who see nothing wrong with "getting over on the system": aAnd will aid and abet.


    Somewhat Ambiguous? If 4000 people come into the country at an estimated lifetime medical cost of $94 million, why would the CDC be tasked with estimating such a cost if it wern't a given that they would receive medical attention?
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    Oct 30, 2009 9:55 PM GMT
    shybuffguy saidSomewhat Ambiguous? If 4000 people come into the country at an estimated lifetime medical cost of $94 million, why would the CDC be tasked with estimating such a cost if it wern't a given that they would receive medical attention?


    I think the ambiguity is in the CDC report that is sited but not qualified. It seems they are applying the definition of an immigrant to the demographic the ban seems to affect, which is "travelers".