What Soft Drinks are Doing to Your Body

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    Nov 02, 2009 10:26 PM GMT
    An interesting article I came across about soda.

    http://health.yahoo.com/experts/drmao/20270/what-soft-drinks-are-doing-to-your-body/

    Hmmm, I think the last time I had a soda was my junior year in high school.
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    Nov 02, 2009 11:14 PM GMT
    jmals23 saidAn interesting article I came across about soda.

    http://health.yahoo.com/experts/drmao/20270/what-soft-drinks-are-doing-to-your-body/

    Hmmm, I think the last time I had a soda was my junior year in high school.


    I was just going to post this link and then I see you beat me to it. There is some good information here. Schools have known this for a long time and so none of our schools here have any soda machines in them any more. They sell water, milk, juice, and fitness drinks only in machines. They also have no snack or candy machines either. They have all been taken out of the schools. However, they do allow soda and snacks to be sold at dances and athletic competitions only. They are not sold during the regular school day.

    I've always believed clean water is still the best and healthiest drink and I drink only water to keep myself hydrated at work and mostly at home too. However, I will have a beer occassionally and wine, too.
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    Nov 03, 2009 4:05 AM GMT
    My dentist some 10 years ago asked if I drank a lot of pop. Wasn't that much (2-4 cans a day), but I'd drink each slowly during my commute, putting a fresh coat of sugar on my teeth every few minutes for about 45 minutes. So I switched to diet, but then decided: what's the point? Now once in a while I'll treat myself to an IBC Root Beer or some Dr. Pepper.

    Dad put a stop to artificial color usage in our house in the 1960s, a few years ahead of the FDA banning many of the colors then in use, and still frowns on them. So I avoid most things with that. It's sometimes amazing what has it. The non-lite varieties of Kroger yogurt, for example (were the blueberries used not blue enough?. And what's with adding color to farm-raised salmon?

    I used to drink the clear Poweraid, but can't get that anymore. So for the most part I'll get the bottles of Trader Joe's water enhanced with electrolytes. When I do get Gatoraid, I try to get those that have artificial color last on the list of ingredients.

    Still do drink a lot of juice, and other than pomegranate or cherry I don't dilute it. Mostly carrot, orange and grapefruit. Of course, when you dilute these you're not just watering down the sugar, but also the vitamins.


    Um, does Coke still advertise that it "adds life"?
    Will Pepsi be the choice of a new, health-conscience generation?
    (Heck, is the new generation health-conscience?)
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    Nov 03, 2009 4:10 AM GMT
    Not really big into sodas. If I do drink a soda it's usually something clear like Sprite, 7up or sierra mist (Notice they are lemon/lime) and that's usually if I go out to eat.

    Other then that I stick to my water and juices. Yes, I'm aware that fruit and vegetable juices contain sugar but in the long they are way better for you then a soda.
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    Nov 03, 2009 6:23 AM GMT
    Great! I should have been dead years ago.

    Admittedly, I guzzle diet soda and it is horribly addicitve. I have tried unsuccessfully 3 times to cut the habit. I usually last a few months and fall off the wagon.

    I'm trying again now very gradually and should be done by the end of the year.

  • MikemikeMike

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    Nov 03, 2009 9:05 AM GMT
    I have a soda once or twice a year if that!
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    Nov 03, 2009 9:18 AM GMT
    water water water water!!!! and pure fruit and veggie juice!!




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    Nov 03, 2009 10:43 AM GMT
    I deeply question the qualifications of this so called expert 'Dr' Mao PhD...

    Fruit juice can have more sugar than soda.... Calories are calories no matter

    It has been shown that artifical sweeatners can degrade into carcinogens.....in a lab if you heat them up to a hundred of degrees Celsius and put them under enormous pressure

    Any kind of acid will alter the pH of your body and natural foods are full of acids....plus in the western world diets are more than abundant in calcium how many people do you hear off suffering from ricketts

    Artifical colors.... I trust the FDA and EEC to screen for safety and long term health damage and know that artificial simply means made in a lab and often it's the exact same chemical compound that could be derived naturally but at twice the cost, plus i tend to avoid cheap ultra bright colored foods


    they add color to atrifical salmon because instead of a diet of small shrimp which naturally adds pink color to salmon flesh they are fed cheaper substitutes, often nutrient rich waste from other food industries.... and people expect pink salmon

    they do they same to flamingos at the zoo...people expect pink famingos but the color is acquired not inherited
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    Nov 03, 2009 11:46 AM GMT
    Meh... I can't go 4 days without a coke before the headaches kick in and I become a really really moody shit head. I have tried in the past to give up coke and yeah.. that shit just ain't happening. I try to moderate how much and how many I have because I know at least what my body can tolerate and yeah.. like someone else said "What's the point of diet?"
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    Nov 03, 2009 11:57 AM GMT
    Good thing I quit all kind of Cola and Soda long time back. Now I usually I just have one coffee or Ice tea in a day. But have seen people who just love to start day with Cola and that too a jumbo size.
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    Nov 03, 2009 1:09 PM GMT
    Interesting topic.. I learned a few things from MsclDrew and Dr Mao.

    The information about causing osteoporosis interested me so I looked it up. There was a study done by Tufts University involving 2500 subjects.
    The researchers found that the more cola drinks women consumed the more bone loss they suffered regardless of other factors such as smoking, alcohol consumption and calcium intake. Other fizzy drinks that were not cola-based did not appear to affect bone density.
    Men drank more colas than women yet had no bone lossicon_biggrin.gif

    Off the topic: ricketts was mentioned earlier. Ricketts is the term used to describe Vitamin D deficiency in children. Osteomalacia is the term used in adults. Osteomalacia and ricketts are the same disease. Osteomalacia is common in the western world but only in a small segment of the population. This is in elderly woman. It was thought that osteoporosis was solely the cause of frequent fractures in the elderly. We we now know that osteomalacia is also a culprit. We routinely check our elderly patient's vitamin D level when they have suffered hip and vertebral compression fractures. Since many are deficient in vitamin D, we begin them on repacement Vitamin D and Ca..
    Elderly woman become vitamin D deficient because they don't get enough sun and have poor diets. Unfortunately many sustain themselves on tea and toast.

    Inspite of all the bad press carbonated drinks get, I still drink diet soda multiple times during the dayicon_lol.gif
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    Nov 03, 2009 1:13 PM GMT
    MsclDrew saidI deeply question the qualifications of this so called expert 'Dr' Mao PhD...


    Me too. He's partially mistaken when he writes "Beverages with bubbles contain phosphoric acid, which can severely deplete the blood calcium levels; calcium is a key component of the bone matrix. With less concentration of calcium over a long time, it can lower deposition rates so that bone mass and density suffer. This means that drinking sodas and carbonated water increases your risk of osteoporosis."

    Phosphoric acid is added to some flavored carbonated beverages to give them a tangy taste, but not all flavored carbonated beverages contain it. The natural soft drinks sold in health food stores typically do not contain phosphoric acid. And, plain carbonated water is just water with CO2 dissolved in it. This is basic information that a health professional writing that particular article should have known.
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    Nov 03, 2009 1:44 PM GMT
    Caesarea4 saidMy dentist some 10 years ago asked if I drank a lot of pop. Wasn't that much (2-4 cans a day), but I'd drink each slowly during my commute, putting a fresh coat of sugar on my teeth every few minutes for about 45 minutes. So I switched to diet, but then decided: what's the point? Now once in a while I'll treat myself to an IBC Root Beer or some Dr. Pepper.

    Dad put a stop to artificial color usage in our house in the 1960s, a few years ahead of the FDA banning many of the colors then in use, and still frowns on them. So I avoid most things with that. It's sometimes amazing what has it. The non-lite varieties of Kroger yogurt, for example (were the blueberries used not blue enough?. And what's with adding color to farm-raised salmon?

    I used to drink the clear Poweraid, but can't get that anymore. So for the most part I'll get the bottles of Trader Joe's water enhanced with electrolytes. When I do get Gatoraid, I try to get those that have artificial color last on the list of ingredients.

    Still do drink a lot of juice, and other than pomegranate or cherry I don't dilute it. Mostly carrot, orange and grapefruit. Of course, when you dilute these you're not just watering down the sugar, but also the vitamins.


    Um, does Coke still advertise that it "adds life"?
    Will Pepsi be the choice of a new, health-conscience generation?
    (Heck, is the new generation health-conscience?)



    WASNT THAT MUCH 2 TO 4 CANS A DAY!!!! I THANK GOD MY MOM WAS A HUGE HEALTH FREAK AND ALL WHILE I WAS GROWING UP I GOT 1 A WEEK. OTHER WISE I WAS DRINKING MILK, WATER, OR V8 BUT 2 TO FOUR A DAY!!!! WOW!
  • fitdude62

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    Nov 03, 2009 1:56 PM GMT
    Water is always the best, But Green tea is even better.

    Effects of Green Tea and EGCG on Cardiovascular and Metabolic Health

    Swen Wolfram, PhD
    DSM Nutritional Products Ltd, Department of Human Nutrition and Health, CH-4002 Basel, SWITZERLAND

    Address reprint requests to: Dr. Swen Wolfram, DSM Nutritional Products Ltd, Department of Human Nutrition and Health, P.O. Box 3255, Bldg. 241/425, CH-4002 Basel, SWITZERLAND


    Since ancient times green tea has been considered a health-promoting beverage. In recent years, scientists throughout the world have investigated the potential benefits of green tea and its most abundant catechin, epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG). The anti-cancer effects of green tea and EGCG were the focus of early research, and encouraging data from in vitro, animal model, and human studies have emerged. Due to the dominant role of cardiovascular disease and the dramatic rise of obesity and type 2 diabetes mellitus as major and interlinked health care problems, green tea and EGCG are increasingly being investigated in these areas. Dose-response relationships observed in several epidemiological studies have indicated that pronounced cardiovascular and metabolic health benefits can be obtained by regular consumption of 5–6 or more cups of green tea per day. Furthermore, intervention studies using similar amounts of green tea, containing 200–300 mg of EGCG, have demonstrated its usefulness for maintaining cardiovascular and metabolic health. Additionally, there are numerous in vivo studies demonstrating that green tea and EGCG exert cardiovascular and metabolic benefits in these model systems. Therefore, green tea and EGCG can be regarded as food components useful for the maintenance of cardiovascular and metabolic health. To prove the effectiveness for disease prevention or treatment, several multi-center, long-term clinical studies investigating the effects of one precisely-defined green tea product on cardiovascular and metabolic endpoints would be necessary. The aim of this manuscript is to provide an overview of the research investigating the effects of green tea and green tea catechins on cardiovascular and metabolic health.

    The only thing I have been drinking for several years now is Green Tea HP.
    Lots of flavors are available for those that don't like the taste of tea. It comes in little "pixies" that you can just add to water. Very convenient.

    Check it out at http://www.mygrenx.com/perfectfitwc The is a lot more info available there too under the "Knowledge" link,
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    Nov 03, 2009 2:52 PM GMT
    fitdude62 saidWater is always the best, But Green tea is even better.



    There are many health benefits attributed to green tea, and I recommend it's use. I was surprised when the FDA rejected green tea's healthy heart claims.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12718769/

    Inspite of what the FDA says about green tea, I still drink it daily.
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    Nov 03, 2009 3:12 PM GMT
    There is nothing wrong with consuming soda, pop, whatever you want to call it, in moderation.
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    Nov 03, 2009 3:15 PM GMT
    I drink a 20 oz. bottle of Pepsi every morning, it's like my cup of coffee.
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    Nov 03, 2009 3:18 PM GMT
    Is there supposed to be sumthin' wrong with soda pop? I drink it all day long and I ain't no different than I ever wuz. I better get goin' = = = there's a sale on soda pop at my local Walmart!
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  • Celticmusl

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    Nov 03, 2009 3:27 PM GMT
    I greatly enjoy drinking diet soda, green tea, iced tea, ice cold water, and vitamin water. There are newer no-calorie sodas that use xylitol, stevia(an herb), and/or erythritol. These are healthy alternatives to artificial sweeteners. I like the brand ZEVIA.

    I don't think nutrasweet is at all as dangerous as phosphoric acid, found in colas, Dr Pepper, and other dark colored soft drinks. Phosphoric acid depletes your body and bones of calcium, causes kidney problems(calcium deposit stones), and is hard on the teeth.
  • Bound4Muscle

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    Nov 03, 2009 3:31 PM GMT
    I am a diet coke addict. (Despite the many articles on the evils of aspertame).

    http://www.lightparty.com/Health/DietCokeAspartame.html

    Diet coke and peanut M& M's,the best!
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    Nov 03, 2009 4:02 PM GMT
    Oh no, yet another thing out there that's going to kill me! I think I'm just going to stay inside.

    Crap! Nearly %40 of all accidents occur inside the home! >_>

    I'm just going to go back to bed now, without sheets (don't want to get tangled up in them in my sleep and choke to death!)
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    Nov 03, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
    I love diet coke, but with in the last month have basically given them up, except when I am in a really bad mood. I tend to drink natural juice with carbonated water. I know, I know, carbonated= bad, but I am not ready to give it up. For now, Tea (cold and hot) and coffee fulfill my caffeine addiction needs.

    Caffeine is my Anti....oh wait.
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    Nov 03, 2009 4:31 PM GMT
    and that's why I only drink the blood of virgins
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    Nov 03, 2009 5:36 PM GMT
    Bound4Muscle saidI am a diet coke addict. (Despite the many articles on the evils of aspertame).

    http://www.lightparty.com/Health/DietCokeAspartame.html

    Diet coke and peanut M& M's,the best!

    Coke and peanuts ? You from the south, big L. ?
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    Nov 03, 2009 5:55 PM GMT
    I'm a Coffee & mineral water kinda guy.

    The only sweet drink I like is chocolate milk or Bombay Sapphire gin