Why do FEMALES in the ANIMAL world never seem to WANT SEX?

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    Nov 03, 2009 11:39 PM GMT
    Like, why are males always having to chase them around, or when they do it she seems so uninterested. What's that all about? icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 04, 2009 12:06 AM GMT
    Isn't it the opposite for lions, the females are the sexually dominant ones
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    Nov 04, 2009 12:08 AM GMT
    wrestlervic saidLike, why are males always having to chase them around, or when they do it she seems so uninterested. What's that all about? icon_confused.gif
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cause the little ladies know that all this is about is getting me pregnant, there's no pleasure in it for them, its a chore. As for humans, my x-wife was an example of a woman immulating the female animal species.
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    Nov 04, 2009 12:10 AM GMT
    MsclDrew saidIsn't it the opposite for lions, the females are the sexually dominant ones


    I don't know, but watching my fish here and the females seem to run away, and I once filmed ducks mating. Three males held the female down so the male could mount her. And the penis was like this long spagetti looking thing!

    I just wonder why it seems to be so "unwanted" in the animal world.
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    Nov 04, 2009 12:11 AM GMT
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    wrestlervic saidLike, why are males always having to chase them around, or when they do it she seems so uninterested. What's that all about? icon_confused.gif
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cause the little ladies know that all this is about is getting me pregnant, there's no pleasure in it for them, its a chore. As for humans, my x-wife was an example of a woman immulating the female animal species.


    Yeah, I was thinking that too, like the female is thinking "Oh honey, I know you wanna do me, but I'll be sick and fat and feeling like crap once you do it."
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    Nov 04, 2009 12:12 AM GMT
    You never heard the phrase "a bitch in heat?"
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    Nov 04, 2009 12:21 AM GMT

    In the animal world, sex is a necessity, not a pleasure. I doubt even the males enjoy it. Aren't there only a hand full of animals who do it for pleasure, I think dolphins are one. Note to op : put the jar of Vaseline away when you are watching Animal Planet.

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    Nov 04, 2009 12:22 AM GMT
    females whales are also sexually dominant they tell when they are available by surfacing up doing acrobatic displays and sounds attracting like 20 other males and then she goes about doing her own thing till the males fighting it out and keep up with her Lol
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    Nov 04, 2009 12:23 AM GMT
    CanadianSun saidfemales whales are also sexually dominant they tell when they are available by surfacing up doing acrobatic displays and sounds attracting like 20 other males and then she goes about doing her own thing till the males fighting it out and keep up with her Lol


    Whales are Whores! icon_razz.gif
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    Nov 04, 2009 2:48 AM GMT
    who would enjoy a " long spagetti looking thing"
    guess their more interested in sayin alive then how smex feels
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    Nov 04, 2009 2:51 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    Whales are Whores! icon_razz.gif



    haha best quote ever!!
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    Nov 04, 2009 3:28 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    CanadianSun saidfemales whales are also sexually dominant they tell when they are available by surfacing up doing acrobatic displays and sounds attracting like 20 other males and then she goes about doing her own thing till the males fighting it out and keep up with her Lol


    Whales are Whores! icon_razz.gif


    LOL i dint say they'd be mating all of em just the one male who beats everyone else up.. i guess attention whores would be a more accurate term icon_razz.gif
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    CanadianSun saidfemales whales are also sexually dominant they tell when they are available by surfacing up doing acrobatic displays and sounds attracting like 20 other males and then she goes about doing her own thing till the males fighting it out and keep up with her Lol

    I know a few gay men and women who do the same thing.....
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    Nov 04, 2009 8:59 AM GMT
    lilTanker said
    CanadianSun saidfemales whales are also sexually dominant they tell when they are available by surfacing up doing acrobatic displays and sounds attracting like 20 other males and then she goes about doing her own thing till the males fighting it out and keep up with her Lol

    I know a few gay men and women who do the same thing.....


    of course that's the part of nature that's consistent in all carbon based life forms icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 04, 2009 2:34 PM GMT
    Here is why all that is. Millions upon millions of sperm are launched onto the bedsheets of every adolescent boy. Sperm are cheap and easy to produce.

    Females ovulate once a month. Ovum are expensive and carrying a baby to term requires an enormous amount of energy.

    So, if a male can launch sperm at anything and everything with little consequence and a female only gets one go a month, how does each select mates?

    Males don't have to be picky. Whether they shoot it in a prime female or the circus freak working at Dunkin Doughnuts, it makes no difference. Females, on the other hand, have to be very choosy. They have just the one egg, so it better be fertilized by the bigger, stronger, better male.

    Since carrying a child to term and raising a child is such an expensive task, getting the best male genes in there improves the chances the child will survive to adulthood.

    So there ya go. That is why males go up to females to ask for a fuck. They are selling something: their superior genes. Now, add on top of that thousands of years of civilization and you can see the basic biological imperative underlying the strange cultures we built on top.
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    Nov 06, 2009 10:49 PM GMT
    superior genes for sale..


    jk
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    Nov 06, 2009 10:56 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    In the animal world, sex is a necessity, not a pleasure. I doubt even the males enjoy it. Aren't there only a hand full of animals who do it for pleasure, I think dolphins are one. Note to op : put the jar of Vaseline away when you are watching Animal Planet.


    Sex crazed primates:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo

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    Nov 06, 2009 11:01 PM GMT
    It is a weapon called "balance of power" icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 06, 2009 11:02 PM GMT
    Female humans are the only species of female organisms on the plant who can experience the same sexual pleasure as males do
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    Nov 06, 2009 11:12 PM GMT
    Felines and canines in heat are the HORNIEST creatures ever! Worse than gay men at a circuit party...
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    Nov 06, 2009 11:17 PM GMT
    they are just playing hard to get
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    Nov 06, 2009 11:25 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidLike, why are males always having to chase them around, or when they do it she seems so uninterested. What's that all about? icon_confused.gif

    You've apparently never had to deal with a female cat in heat.
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    Nov 06, 2009 11:42 PM GMT
    surferdude1101 saidFemale humans are the only species of female organisms on the plant who can experience the same sexual pleasure as males do


    There are tons of female animals that have fuck each other. Scientists can measure their physiological response to pleasure, and god do they feel it. They can't measure the subjective response to pleasure, however.
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    Nov 06, 2009 11:44 PM GMT
    do you want something the size of a watermellon shooting out a hole the size of a lemon? i sure as hell wouldn't put out, if i were woman, either!
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    Nov 07, 2009 12:36 AM GMT
    OK, time for a bit of evolutionary biology:

    Paternal care is virtually nonexistent in the animal world. The reasons for this are many, but the majority of them trace back to the physical difference between the egg and the sperm. Although the total energetic output in ejaculate is often relatively equal to the energetic output in the release of an egg, on a per-cell basis it's not even close. As a result, the female has relatively more invested in that particular offspring than does the male, even though it contains half of each of their genes. From that point onward, since the female has already made a larger investment, she has more to lose if the offspring dies, and thus has more of a reason to ensure that it lives. And, so, when conception happens it takes place inside the female, when there is gestation it is nearly universally inside the female, and when there is parental care it is nearly always undertaken by the female, with the male helping out in a small percentage of cases, and essentially never being the sole provider.

    Now that the female is investing in the care of the offspring, her lifetime reproductive success is governed primarily by here ability to obtain resources and provision her offspring. The male, however, is limited primarily by his access to fertile females. And so we have it that males, particularly among mammals and birds, have a tendency to wind up larger and more conspicuously colored than do females so they can better compete with the other males, while females tend to be better camouflaged and more efficient at resource processing.

    Cases with substantial paternal investment in offspring tend to be limited to those where a single parent is all but incapable of rearing the offspring alone. Most birds, for example, and a handful of cooperative breeding mammals, like wolves and naked mole rats. There are also a couple of primates where it happens. Otherwise, if the male is still around in the offspring's life, his main contribution is either helping to defend its mother against predators (as in, say, horses), or in protecting the offspring from other adult males of his species who would kill it to bring the mother back into heat faster (as in, say, lions). Infanticide is one of the great reasons, incidentally, why arguments about what is natural really have no place in a discussion about what's moral, as infanticide is widespread in the world of mammals.

    All of this is not to say that females are coy or demure. Anyone who has ever seen a female housecat in heat can readily attest to this. But females do, as a rule, tend to be much more choosy about who to have sex with, as they're investing more in it. In species where even one parent cares for the offspring -- even if it's limited to carrying the developing embryo until it's born or hatches -- the vast majority of adult females will reproduce. A substantial percentage of the adult males never will.

    As for the bit about human females being the only females who derive pleasure from sex: no. We humans are extremely sexualized apes, but it's very hard to look at a bonobo orgy and try to claim that the females aren't getting off.