Integrating pilates/power yoga into my training routine?

  • ShagonTheHate

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    Nov 04, 2009 12:34 PM GMT
    I've gained quite mass from weight lifting for the past 7 months and would like to maintain it now with other forms of exercise, since I was never into bodybuilding. I'm 174 cm and 85 kg now and am planning to lose 5 kg and maintaining the rest since I should be pretty defined then. I like being skinnier and more defined, not as bulky as I am now (I love big, bulky guysicon_redface.gif but don't like it on myself). I eat super clean so that's no problem.

    I've been resting for the past 3 weeks since I've developed stretch marks under my right armpit (after probably going overboard last month) and they hurt.

    I practise 60 min yoga on mondays for my PE at college and was thinking of doing 2x per week whole body weight workouts at the gym (with higher weight, but then again, not so high as before because I'm afraid of injury and further stretch marks) and 2x per week going to pilates classes at my gym.

    They have pilates, dynamic pilates and power yoga. My question is has anyone here been going to pilates classes and what benefits have they gotten from them? Do you sweat, do your abs really work as they say, what about other muscles?
    I'm looking for something that will get me sweaty, maintain my muscle mass (combined with some weight work) and develop my abs, butt and back more, I think I'm on the right track with pilates programmes...
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    Nov 04, 2009 2:16 PM GMT
    not all pilates is the same, just like not all lifting weights is the same. I´m an old style purist, but even the floor adaptations and modifications can give you good strength and stretching work. When done properly pilates is more intense than lifting. It SHOULD work all the power house, not just abs, that is, inner thighs, butt, back, abs (and not just the six pac). It is, though, hard to give advice on "pilates" without knowing what type: it´s like asking "will going to the gym make me big". Depends what you actually do there.
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    Nov 04, 2009 2:40 PM GMT
    I've worked pilates and yoga into my exercise routine. I'm very happy with the results. Get yourself the pilates ring and use it while you are doing lower weight exercises.

    Ever try placing the pilates ring between your knees as you do squats? You have to reduce your normal weight, squeeze the ring as you go up and down. You can also place the ring etween your kness when you are doing certain standing and sitting dumbell/barbell exercises.

    Conventional weight lifting advice is to isolate a particular muscle while doing the resistance. I found that causes you to restrict your breathing and unaturally contort your body. Pilates teaches you to make all your muscles work together, even if you are concentrating on only one muscle group. So you become super strong and very solid and stable, cause you feel your mid section and legs working together with your chest, back and shoulders..........spine neck etc.

    It helps you breathe better too and does wonders for your balance, posture and stability. Imagine pressing your feet and calves into the ground, while at the same time lifting a weight over your head.

    Your muscles will be more toned, ripped and your body becomes more fluid and relaxed in movement, in and out of the gym. The last thing I want is to look like is a boring typical musclebound "bigger is better" gym rat who looks like he spends half his life doing three sets of 10 with high weights. For me, the quieter confidence of a proportioned balanced sexy body with a relaxed walking style rules.

    Try squeezing the ring between your knees when you do situps, leg raises etc. You will discover muscles and develop curves you never realized you had before.
  • ShagonTheHate

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    Nov 04, 2009 5:08 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidnot all pilates is the same, just like not all lifting weights is the same. I´m an old style purist (training as a Real Pilates teacher, with all the apparatus), but even the floor adaptations and modifications can give you good strength and stretching work. When done properly pilates is more intense than lifting. It SHOULD work all the power house, not just abs, that is, inner thighs, butt, back, abs (and not just the six pac). It is, though, hard to give advice on "pilates" without knowing what type: it´s like asking "will going to the gym make me big". Depends what you actually do there.


    Yeah I know there's probably tons of different pilates exercise programmes, I'm going to try the ones in my gym first because membership for gym and all programmes unlimited is about 40 euros per month (270 kuna, I live in Croatia).
    This is their site: http://www.fitness-forma.com/programi/overview/7 , it's all in Croatian but it's basically all only mat work, no extra equpment (maybe medicine and fitness balls). I must add that I don't think the trainers are really pilates experts, but the site does say they have some sort of courses finished.

    The other solution would be to go to a real pilates centre here in Zagreb, there are a few, they include mat and other types of workouts, but then I'd have to pay that about 55 euros per month for 8x plus 35 euros gym membership (it's 35 euros only gym, 40 with programmes), that's a little too much per month for me.icon_confused.gif

    Whatever I decide, I'm illegally downloading a few pilates dvd-s as we speak to see how the workouts look like.icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 04, 2009 5:21 PM GMT
    If you're looking for a suggestion on this: I'd suggest the power yoga for the results you want. Especially if it's an ashtanga based power yoga with lots of movement. If it is, it'll be quite the workout and will lean out your muscles for that definition you want, sort of sculpting the mass you're gaining from weight training.
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    Nov 04, 2009 10:10 PM GMT
    actually the power yoga thing is not a bad idea.

    (1) often power yoga has some pilates sneaked in (or at least the same principles from astanga´s bandhas)
    (2) Pilates is not aerobic until you get to a fairly high level, whereas power yoga is. To make it aerobic at the basic and intermediate levels you have to change stuff... so just try the yoga.

    bottom line thouhg, try it and see what you think.
  • ShagonTheHate

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    Nov 05, 2009 1:09 PM GMT
    Thanks guy, I'll experiment with it, firts I'll try the cheaper versions, aka the ones in my gym (they have power yoga and pilates), if that isn't enough, there's a pilates-yoga studio near my flat which is fairly cheap and they have pilates, power yoga and ashtanga yoga. Btw, anyone know the difference between Ashtanga yoga, Ashtanga led class, Ashtanga mysore style and
    Power yoga xd? They have it all...
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    Nov 05, 2009 1:53 PM GMT
    anyone know the difference between Ashtanga yoga,

    general name of Patthabi Jois´s system

    Ashtanga led class,

    teacher leads all the students through the postures at the same time. What you´d expect

    Ashtanga mysore style

    An astanga thing, where you go in and do your own practice and the teacher corrects as necessary. The trad way of doing astanga. There is no starting time and everyone will be out of synch. Quite awesome, when you know what you are doing and don´t care any more about others

    and
    Power yoga

    Flowing yoga, but not the astanga series. Often better for tight hipped westerners (astanga primary has a lot of half lotuses, and traditionally, you can´t get another posture until you have perfected the previous one, meaning it´s discouraging)

    xd?
  • ShagonTheHate

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    Nov 06, 2009 7:10 PM GMT
    Ok, then I'm trying power yoga and maybe a class of pilates, just to feel the difference.
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    Nov 06, 2009 9:01 PM GMT
    1 tip, go at your own pace. Don't feel like you have to keep up with everyone in the class. This way, you'll save yourself from any potential injuries. Trust me, I speak from experience,icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 07, 2009 7:51 PM GMT
    yeah bitches.. I´d leave you standing....

    but srsly.. he´s right. You can hurt yourself if you try to be macho... work with your body where it is on the day that you do it....