Did you like Will & Grace?

  • Little_Spoon

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    Nov 05, 2009 7:11 PM GMT
    I honestly loved the show. Loved the comedy. Loved the story. Loved Will Truman.

    Every time I'd see him I'd be like, "oh bby oh bby."

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    He's on my want list for sure.

    Also liked Karen. Hilarious tequila.
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    Nov 05, 2009 7:17 PM GMT
    You're much hotter than Will Truman.
  • rnch

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    Nov 05, 2009 7:29 PM GMT
    LOVED the will & grace characters, could tolerate the karen character, the jack character was damn annoying.
  • Little_Spoon

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    Nov 05, 2009 7:52 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidYou're much hotter than Will Truman.



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    Nov 05, 2009 8:56 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidYou're much hotter than Will Truman.

    I've never really watched the show, but wrestlervic was right- you are much much hotter than whats-his-face.
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    Nov 05, 2009 8:58 PM GMT
    who doesn't love that show... mainly for karen and will though
  • cowboyathlete

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    Nov 05, 2009 8:59 PM GMT
    I liked it at first, but as time wore on it was clear how shallow the lead characters were.
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    Nov 05, 2009 9:00 PM GMT
    jackofhearts46 saidwho doesn't love that show... mainly for karen and will though


    I didn't love the show

    Jack and Karen were like pulling teeth ( not that i've ever had any pulled)

    Some episodes were more likeable than others
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    Nov 05, 2009 9:03 PM GMT
    I looooved the show. Hate how it ended, though.
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    Nov 05, 2009 9:14 PM GMT
    I can't remember where I heard it first, but I recall someone saying that in order to make gay characters palatable (read: non-offensive) for a "mainstream" (ie. straight) audience, they are generally portrayed in one of two ways: the eunich (Will) a character who is romantically inert (no bf, no physically romantic scenes, no post-coital scenes) that it is hard to think of him as gay; and the jester (Jack) a character so over-the-top (ie. the stereotypical flaming queen) -- in both cases, it desexualizes the character and makes him a non-threat to traditional values/mindsets. As gay men, we can get the in-joke (there are many great one-liners from all the characters) -- but do straight people, even the ones who consider themselves well-versed with "the gays"?
  • josephmovie

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    Nov 05, 2009 9:18 PM GMT
    I thought the ending was spot on. She finds someone, they suddenly have less in common. It wasn't a happy ending in a stereotypical way, but it was a realistic one. A brave move by the writers instead of some awful Friends type ending.
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    Nov 05, 2009 9:25 PM GMT
    xanadude saidI can't remember where I heard it first, but I recall someone saying that in order to make gay characters palatable (read: non-offensive) for a "mainstream" (ie. straight) audience, they are generally portrayed in one of two ways: the eunich (Will) a character who is romantically inert (no bf, no physically romantic scenes, no post-coital scenes) that it desez it's hard to think of him as gay; and the jester (Jack) a character so over-the-top (ie. the stereotypical flaming queen) -- in both cases, it desexualizes the character and makes him a non-threat to traditional values/mindsets. As gay men, we can get the in-joke (there are many great one-liners from all the characters) -- but do straight people, even the ones who consider themselves well-versed with "the gays"?


    Spot on!

    I despised the show
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    Nov 05, 2009 9:26 PM GMT
    I love Karen, she's my idol!
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    Nov 05, 2009 9:34 PM GMT
    LOVED IT SO MUCHicon_biggrin.gif...and yes Will was hot(so was his boyfriend Vince) and Karen was my drinking buddy
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    Nov 05, 2009 9:34 PM GMT
    For about two minutes, until I seen Jack, and I was then so over it all.
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    Nov 05, 2009 9:36 PM GMT
    I literally only came across it this week. I loved the 2 episodes I saw on youtube

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    Nov 05, 2009 9:36 PM GMT
    I have all 8 season's on DVD, I don't see how any on can sit there and say anything bad about Jack, I mean COME ON! Jack and Karen made that dang show, lol. I always thought it should have been called, "Jack and Karen" not Will & Grace!
  • Little_Spoon

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    Nov 05, 2009 9:38 PM GMT
    iGunner saidI have all 8 season's on DVD, I don't see how any on can sit there and say anything bad about Jack, I mean COME ON! Jack and Karen made that dang show, lol. I always thought it should have been called, "Jack and Karen" not Will & Grace!


    I don't know about that.

    I think they were like chocolate milk. Sure they're super awesome, but after a while it makes you feel kind of sick.

    I did love them though. Jack tended to get on my nerves though, but that doesn't seem to be an exception.
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    Nov 05, 2009 9:45 PM GMT
    Eek! Yeah I know what you mean about the Chocolate milk thing, too much would have been horrible, but they always seemed to give the right amount for me, just enough to where I thought about filling my glass up one more time! lol..

    As for Will, his jokes always fell short, and he is straight in real life too, so that hurt him in my book.. But he was a pretty good gay man on television! lol
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    Nov 05, 2009 9:52 PM GMT
    I loved it. Have watched it more than once and can surely watch it again and again.
  • drypin

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    Nov 05, 2009 10:02 PM GMT
    chalk me up in the loved it column. You know the one that laughed at every quote in that "favorite lines from Will & Grace" forum.
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    Nov 05, 2009 10:08 PM GMT
    Loved it! Go Karen
  • EricLA

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    Nov 05, 2009 10:24 PM GMT
    I thought the show was well-made, but wildly uneven. The first season or two were entertaining, but I thought the middle years it just became a bitch-fest. I thought the characters were just cruel to each other. Why would these people be friends? They seemed to pull back in the last few seasons. There were times I enjoyed all the stunt casting they began to do, and other times there was a big disconnect. Matt Damon playing a straight guy pretending to be gay in order to join a Gay Men's Chorus was a great episode.
  • Anto

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    Nov 05, 2009 11:18 PM GMT
    I felt frustrated that this was how gay people were needed to be portrayed as in order for people to find them in a show acceptable.

    The female with the high pitch voice was funny though, and the other female that acted like a reincarnated Lucille Ball. The kind of humor she did reminded of the kind of humor from 'I Love Lucy'.
  • GTBL88

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    Nov 05, 2009 11:19 PM GMT
    Loved it. Met Eric McCormack. Great guy, very down to earth. Have dinner with him