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The devil made me do it.
Nov 06, 2009 3:48 PM GMT
Homosexuality 'not in your DNA,' LDS leader says

Full story: www.sltrib.com

People who are attracted to members of their own sex can change, an LDS general authority said Saturday, so they shouldn't let Satan persuade them they can't. Elder Bruce C. Hafen, a member of the First Quorum of the Seventy, spoke at the 19th annual conference of Evergreen International, a nonprofit group that helps Mormons "overcome homosexual behavior" and "diminish same-sex attraction." The event was held at the LDS Church's Joseph Smith Memorial Building in Salt Lake City. Hafen promised attendees, "If you are faithful, on resurrection morning -- and maybe even before then -- you will rise with normal attractions for the opposite sex." Whenever the devil -- whom Hafen referred to as "the adversary" -- tries to "convince you that you are hopelessly 'that way,' so that acting out your feelings is inevitable, he is lying," Hafen said. "He is the father of lies."
DanielH Posts: 450
Nov 06, 2009 6:01 PM GMT
I don't know if I should care...

But I don't.

That makes me something bad, I'm sure...
GuiltyGear Posts: 5936
Nov 06, 2009 6:34 PM GMT

Since I'm what I am and a decade of religious reprogramming didn't work, I can embrace this apparent other part of what I am too. A man spread eagle on crimson bed clothes with "Satan's Bitch" tattood on his ass.....I could get behind that. Mom was right, I am evil.

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AdriantheRN Posts: 663
Nov 06, 2009 6:40 PM GMT
could we get a 20/20 interview of Satan by Diane Sawyer? i dont think the lord of darkness appreciates being slandered without having the opportunity to give his 2 cents.

BodyWork4 Posts: 1925
Nov 06, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
who, and why promote his "ramblings"?
Nov 06, 2009 6:51 PM GMT
jawrhed Posts: 626
Nov 06, 2009 7:10 PM GMT
Satan is MY SOURCE for fun!
realifedad Posts: 1876
Nov 06, 2009 7:18 PM GMT
Such damned ignorance is frightening, and will lead to a lot of young men very very let down when the 'program' does't work to make them like the opposite sex. Maybe this preacher should call on this devil and entreat him to stop causing men to like men. Good luck with that !!!
Nov 06, 2009 7:25 PM GMT
One might wonder how the Elder Bruce C. Hafen knows so much about this issue. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
AdriantheRN Posts: 663
Nov 06, 2009 7:27 PM GMT
this might be the satan he's referring to:

Nov 06, 2009 7:30 PM GMT
Maybe his a bisexual, who lived a life of denial, and repressed his bisexuality, or desire for men, and lived his whole life as a pseudo heterosexual. Remember it's the bisexuals that have the choice, not us pure homosexuals, or the straights; but the bisexuals.
davydct Posts: 7
Nov 06, 2009 7:43 PM GMT
I have no problem with religion in general, but I do with those who organize it and try to force their singular point of view. In my mind they are the real trolls of this world.

David
mynyun Posts: 205
Nov 06, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
GuiltyGear said
evil.

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Yikes, it's Jim Baker.!!!!

Anyway to quote Depeche Mode.
"I give in to sin Because you have to make this life liveable"

. . . that and if I believed in Hell I'd be going there for a lot worse than being gay.
Webster666 Posts: 1230
Nov 08, 2009 1:53 AM GMT
Gee, I wonder why there are so many gay suicides among the Mormons...
center Posts: 132
Nov 08, 2009 2:07 AM GMT
OutdoorMutt said
People who are attracted to members of their own sex can change, an LDS general authority said Saturday, so they shouldn't let Satan persuade them they can't.


How quaint that alleged adults still believe in the boogeyman in this day and age. The leprechauns under my bed and the gnomes in my garden told me being queer is just fine. Who can argue with them?
Nov 08, 2009 2:26 AM GMT

mycathedral.org whose pastor founded http://www.pro-love.org

from a poster "Some people have just enough religion to hate but not enough to love"
flex89 Posts: 1403
Nov 08, 2009 2:54 AM GMT
I grew up with this nonsense and I still giggle every time I hear it because it's so goddamn absurd.
GNR7600 Posts: 208
Nov 08, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
meninlove said
mycathedral.org whose pastor founded http://www.pro-love.org

from a poster "Some people have just enough religion to hate but not enough to love"


Sweet quote.
Nov 08, 2009 3:15 AM GMT

Hey GNR7600, the credit all goes to vj2004t who posted it on another topic.

Brilliant, isn't it?
Nov 08, 2009 4:31 AM GMT
AdriantheRN saidcould we get a 20/20 interview of Satan by Diane Sawyer? i dont think the lord of darkness appreciates being slandered without having the opportunity to give his 2 cents.


It's already been done:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=120822&page=1&page=1
realifedad Posts: 1876
Nov 09, 2009 3:22 PM GMT
Where's this devil's home office? His headquarters? Lets go have a talk with him and find out just what he has to say about his role in making all these homosexuals like each other. He deserves his day in court.
Nov 09, 2009 3:24 PM GMT
realifedad said Where's this devil's home office? His headquarters? Lets go have a talk with him and find out just what he has to say about his role in making all these homosexuals like each other. He deserves his day in court.


From what I can gather he has two residences. One in Texas somewhere. And one in the midwest somewhere
realifedad Posts: 1876
Nov 09, 2009 3:27 PM GMT
Blondizgd said
realifedad said Where's this devil's home office? His headquarters? Lets go have a talk with him and find out just what he has to say about his role in making all these homosexuals like each other. He deserves his day in court.


From what I can gather he has two residences. One in Texas somewhere. And one in the midwest somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you pinpoint it a bit closer !!! we really need to have a heart to heart talk with him !!!! Minus the "pitchforks" though !!!
Nov 09, 2009 3:31 PM GMT
realifedad said
Blondizgd said
realifedad said Where's this devil's home office? His headquarters? Lets go have a talk with him and find out just what he has to say about his role in making all these homosexuals like each other. He deserves his day in court.


From what I can gather he has two residences. One in Texas somewhere. And one in the midwest somewhere
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you pinpoint it a bit closer !!! we really need to have a heart to heart talk with him !!!! Minus the "pitchforks" though !!!


OK understood. Let me see what I can do to narrowing it down.
realifedad Posts: 1876
Nov 09, 2009 3:35 PM GMT
Maybe the devils gone down in that juigee board (that spelling was way off-lol !!!) Couldn't we just go to 'walmart' and buy one and bring him up in front of us to answer for his actions?
Nov 09, 2009 3:57 PM GMT
Well if a higher up in one made up religion says it's true.. it must be so.

Maybe that's what God told him while he was in a Nyquil induced trance or it was beamed into his mind from the orbiting mother ship.
wachwurd Posts: 30
Nov 16, 2009 10:53 AM GMT
Well of course you realize...the LDS is just a business..like scientology...only with a better cover story...anyway...it makes them money to say they're anti-gay...watch them turn around in a couple of decades when the u.s. declares equal rights for everyone, permanently.

McGay Posts: 5115
Nov 16, 2009 11:02 AM GMT
Where the fuck does Satan get off promoting love?