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Homosexuality 'not in your DNA,' LDS leader says

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People who are attracted to members of their own sex can change, an LDS general authority said Saturday, so they shouldn't let Satan persuade them they can't. Elder Bruce C. Hafen, a member of the First Quorum of the Seventy, spoke at the 19th annual conference of Evergreen International, a nonprofit group that helps Mormons "overcome homosexual behavior" and "diminish same-sex attraction." The event was held at the LDS Church's Joseph Smith Memorial Building in Salt Lake City. Hafen promised attendees, "If you are faithful, on resurrection morning -- and maybe even before then -- you will rise with normal attractions for the opposite sex." Whenever the devil -- whom Hafen referred to as "the adversary" -- tries to "convince you that you are hopelessly 'that way,' so that acting out your feelings is inevitable, he is lying," Hafen said. "He is the father of lies."

I don't know if I should care...

But I don't.

That makes me something bad, I'm sure...

Since I'm what I am and a decade of religious reprogramming didn't work, I can embrace this apparent other part of what I am too. A man spread eagle on crimson bed clothes with "Satan's Bitch" tattood on his ass.....I could get behind that. Mom was right, I am evil.

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could we get a 20/20 interview of Satan by Diane Sawyer? i dont think the lord of darkness appreciates being slandered without having the opportunity to give his 2 cents.

who, and why promote his "ramblings"?

Satan is MY SOURCE for fun!

Such damned ignorance is frightening, and will lead to a lot of young men very very let down when the 'program' does't work to make them like the opposite sex. Maybe this preacher should call on this devil and entreat him to stop causing men to like men. Good luck with that !!!

One might wonder how the Elder Bruce C. Hafen knows so much about this issue. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.

this might be the satan he's referring to:

Maybe his a bisexual, who lived a life of denial, and repressed his bisexuality, or desire for men, and lived his whole life as a pseudo heterosexual. Remember it's the bisexuals that have the choice, not us pure homosexuals, or the straights; but the bisexuals.

I have no problem with religion in general, but I do with those who organize it and try to force their singular point of view. In my mind they are the real trolls of this world.

David

GuiltyGear said
evil.

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Yikes, it's Jim Baker.!!!!

Anyway to quote Depeche Mode.
"I give in to sin Because you have to make this life liveable"

. . . that and if I believed in Hell I'd be going there for a lot worse than being gay.

Gee, I wonder why there are so many gay suicides among the Mormons...

OutdoorMutt said
People who are attracted to members of their own sex can change, an LDS general authority said Saturday, so they shouldn't let Satan persuade them they can't.

How quaint that alleged adults still believe in the boogeyman in this day and age. The leprechauns under my bed and the gnomes in my garden told me being queer is just fine. Who can argue with them?

mycathedral.org whose pastor founded http://www.pro-love.org

from a poster "Some people have just enough religion to hate but not enough to love"

I grew up with this nonsense and I still giggle every time I hear it because it's so goddamn absurd.

meninlove said
mycathedral.org whose pastor founded http://www.pro-love.org

from a poster "Some people have just enough religion to hate but not enough to love"

Sweet quote.

Hey GNR7600, the credit all goes to vj2004t who posted it on another topic.

Brilliant, isn't it?

AdriantheRN saidcould we get a 20/20 interview of Satan by Diane Sawyer? i dont think the lord of darkness appreciates being slandered without having the opportunity to give his 2 cents.

It's already been done:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=120822&page=1&page=1

Where's this devil's home office? His headquarters? Lets go have a talk with him and find out just what he has to say about his role in making all these homosexuals like each other. He deserves his day in court.

realifedad said Where's this devil's home office? His headquarters? Lets go have a talk with him and find out just what he has to say about his role in making all these homosexuals like each other. He deserves his day in court.

From what I can gather he has two residences. One in Texas somewhere. And one in the midwest somewhere

Blondizgd said

realifedad said Where's this devil's home office? His headquarters? Lets go have a talk with him and find out just what he has to say about his role in making all these homosexuals like each other. He deserves his day in court.

From what I can gather he has two residences. One in Texas somewhere. And one in the midwest somewhere

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you pinpoint it a bit closer !!! we really need to have a heart to heart talk with him !!!! Minus the "pitchforks" though !!!

realifedad said

Blondizgd said

realifedad said Where's this devil's home office? His headquarters? Lets go have a talk with him and find out just what he has to say about his role in making all these homosexuals like each other. He deserves his day in court.

From what I can gather he has two residences. One in Texas somewhere. And one in the midwest somewhere

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Can you pinpoint it a bit closer !!! we really need to have a heart to heart talk with him !!!! Minus the "pitchforks" though !!!

OK understood. Let me see what I can do to narrowing it down.

Maybe the devils gone down in that juigee board (that spelling was way off-lol !!!) Couldn't we just go to 'walmart' and buy one and bring him up in front of us to answer for his actions?

Well if a higher up in one made up religion says it's true.. it must be so.

Maybe that's what God told him while he was in a Nyquil induced trance or it was beamed into his mind from the orbiting mother ship.

Well of course you realize...the LDS is just a business..like scientology...only with a better cover story...anyway...it makes them money to say they're anti-gay...watch them turn around in a couple of decades when the u.s. declares equal rights for everyone, permanently.

Where the fuck does Satan get off promoting love?