Poll: CA Voters Support Gay Marriage, They Just Don't Want It on the Ballot

  • metta

    Posts: 39104

    Nov 07, 2009 7:01 AM GMT
    Poll sends mixed message on voter support of same-sex couples


    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local-beat/Poll-Voters-Support-Gay-Marriage-They-Just-Dont-Want-It-on-the-Ballot-69419617.html
  • styrgan

    Posts: 2017

    Nov 07, 2009 1:28 PM GMT
    I can see why they don't want to vote on same-sex marriage after the Prop 8 fiasco.

    Sorry we've been such an inconvenience, California!!!!

    icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 3:13 PM GMT
    maybe the ones that support it just think they cannot win
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 3:21 PM GMT
    I've come to realize that it can't be left up to a vote. Even if it does pass, it will always come under attack in future elections. We need to have DOMA repealed and laws expanded on the federal level that force States to acknowledge civil unions.
  • JP85257

    Posts: 3284

    Nov 07, 2009 3:44 PM GMT
    joeyveras saidI've come to realize that it can't be left up to a vote. Even if it does pass, it will always come under attack in future elections. We need to have DOMA repealed and laws expanded on the federal level that force States to acknowledge civil unions.


    This would impede on states rights tho.

    Whats OK in Cali is not necessarily OK in Oklahoma. People live where they live for a reason.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 3:52 PM GMT
    JP85257 saidWhats OK in Cali is not necessarily OK in Oklahoma. People live where they live for a reason.
    Oh yes, this is why heterosexuals have to get remarried every time they cross state lines or check to make sure they are of the same race before getting married icon_rolleyes.gif

    I live in the united states because I was born here. I choose to stay because I am told that I have inalienable rights that even the most powerful group have no right to take away, and that I am equal to all others.

    (P.S. "States Rights" were the same old tired blather that states that were predominately racist used to justify their inequality and prejudice.)
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 4:07 PM GMT
    They could also be lying to the polsters. I mean the only way it can become legal is through a vote of the people -- since they didn't like the supreme court granting it and took it away from us. So saying I support gay marriage, but don't want it on the ballot sounds like a 'politically correct' formula of saying I really do't support gay marriage, but I don't want to sound like I'm a bigot.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
    wrerick, i was thinking the same thing
  • calibro

    Posts: 8888

    Nov 07, 2009 4:17 PM GMT
    JP85257 said
    joeyveras saidI've come to realize that it can't be left up to a vote. Even if it does pass, it will always come under attack in future elections. We need to have DOMA repealed and laws expanded on the federal level that force States to acknowledge civil unions.


    This would impede on states rights tho.

    Whats OK in Cali is not necessarily OK in Oklahoma. People live where they live for a reason.


    Yes, but that assumes states have the right to discriminate on the matter, say when miscegenation was still illegal in some states. But it was later determined that such statutes are in direct opposition to the constitution, specifically amendments protecting our liberties, and therefore states cannot hold their own opinions on the matter since the federal net of laws trumps a state's mentality. Over and over again it's proven states don't have the right to trespass over the principles we defined as immutable in our constitution, and if they don't like that, they can secede.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 5:10 PM GMT
    ActiveAndFit said
    JP85257 saidWhats OK in Cali is not necessarily OK in Oklahoma. People live where they live for a reason.
    Oh yes, this is why heterosexuals have to get remarried every time they cross state lines or check to make sure they are of the same race before getting married icon_rolleyes.gif

    I live in the united states because I was born here. I choose to stay because I am told that I have inalienable rights that even the most powerful group have not right to take away, and that I am equal to all others.

    You're dreaming. The United States was once the light & inspiration of the world. It is now the enemy of humanity, it's greatest curse, that should be crushed like Stalinism & the Nazis. My partner & I are looking for a better place to live, but we're rather spoiled by the warm weather of Florida. Canada is just too cold for us, and all of Europe, so we're stymied.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 5:33 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidYou're dreaming. The United States was once the light & inspiration of the world. It is now the enemy of humanity, it's greatest curse, that should be crushed like Stalinism & the Nazis. My partner & I are looking for a better place to live, but we're rather spoiled by the warm weather of Florida. Canada is just too cold for us, and all of Europe, so we're stymied.
    icon_eek.gif Hold your scooter there red! You don't seem the type to throw in the towel! Stay with us a while!
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 5:39 PM GMT
    ....I hate going to these external links- There are always so many idiots saying that 'The Church' invented marriage.......
    ------------
    South Africa. Marriage between men is legal there- Have you considered that red vespa?