The effects of "color picking"......

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 5:22 PM GMT
    Ok ever since i was a child i would see people like these, individuals of a dark ethnic background...bleaching his/her skin for reasons still unclear to me. I was told however that they did this to be desired more. Being close to light -skin or white was preferred because people would accept you more. There was a thread on here the other day about "racial preference" being another way of being racist. I believe that this might be an effect of such prejudice. Now look at this individual...I always thought he was soo handsome and very attractive. But i dont know why he did this to himself....then i remember what type of society we live in. One where self worth is still measured by ones skin tone. This individual......im at a lost of words....sammy sosa....i have lost respect. In order to be more white he bleached his skin...permed his hair...and put in light brown contacts....this is the result of color picking. People need to learn to accept themselves. The aim of the thread is to explain why individuals resort to skin bleaching.
    1257602272sammy_sosa.jpg
    1257605659sammy_bleach.jpg
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 5:59 PM GMT
    hmm tanning has nothing to do with trying to erase racial identity..
  • Klutch84

    Posts: 286

    Nov 07, 2009 6:58 PM GMT
    He looks like a Dominican morenazo (dark-skinned person). I love mis morenos but just like in America, there is prejudice against darker skin tones in the DR. I really do think he looks better moreno but that's just my preference. It's such a shame tho, Lil Kim has lightened her skin as well.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 7:22 PM GMT
    Rawrly saidProve that's exactly what he's trying to do before you speak for him.


    wont even make a reply to this as you dont understand the history or issue behind skin bleaching...
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 7:27 PM GMT
    I'm a HUGE Cubs Fan (as you can tell by my screen name) and I really never thought about Sammy in terms of skin tone. I mean I thought he looked amazing with his dark skin, and his hair was fine too.

    I don't know. I just feel like people who bleach their skin or do any kind of physically altering procedures should have to go to a therapist/psychologist first to talk it out and make sure there aren't any underlying issues that might have caused this want to radically change their appearance.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 7:33 PM GMT
    Maybe it has nothing to do with changing one's race - but simply to look what is more "attractive" in one's own view. Some people are happy being black... some aren't - those who aren't and if they would rather feel happier being light skinned then so be it.. whats the big deal really?? Get over it.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
    And its no different than getting your nose changed or your breasts enlarged or your tummy tucked... its about what you feel will make you more beautiful.. and more confident...rather people who keep bringing this topic up sound to be the biggest self haters moaning about it all the time.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 7:51 PM GMT
    sammy-sosa-skin.jpg

    He looks freaky now IMHO. He looked much better before.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 7:55 PM GMT

    We can't find any good link to prove or disprove bleaching - all speculation by fans and commentators. Some are saying he has a skin mottling (discolouration) and is evening it up.

    So what's with the white girls and guys in dreadlocks?

    photography_dreadlocks.jpg

    Or the white guys talking gangsta? Or the white guys dressing gangsta?



  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:08 PM GMT
    It looks like he's wearing makeup to me. He could be covering up a skin condition due to vitiligo.

    I have a white and an asian friend that both wear dreadlocs. I think it's awesome and they're really deep people. I love them

    Talking "gangsta" and dressing "gangsta" has become en vogue because of the charisma of black men within the hip hop culture. It's apparently "cool" to be gangsta. But being gangsta is not a black thing. It's the charisma of black men that people try to emulate more than anything IMHO.
  • Klutch84

    Posts: 286

    Nov 07, 2009 8:14 PM GMT
    Jetsetter99 saidMaybe it has nothing to do with changing one's race - but simply to look what is more "attractive" in one's own view. Some people are happy being black... some aren't - those who aren't and if they would rather feel happier being light skinned then so be it.. whats the big deal really?? Get over it.


    For the LAST time, Sammy Sosa is NOT black, he's Dominican!!! Damn...
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:18 PM GMT
    Ganymede0 saidsammy-sosa-skin.jpg

    He looks freaky now IMHO. He looked much better before.



    Is it possible it could be the lighting reflecting off whatever lotion he has on his skin? The flash 'washes out' the color in his skin? (Pic on the left is a bright flash, on the right is a softer flash.) I don't know, I'm just trying to give the guy the benefit of the doubt....

    But he looks weird, like the Wayans brothers in the movie "White Chicks".
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:19 PM GMT
    Shifty84 said
    Jetsetter99 saidMaybe it has nothing to do with changing one's race - but simply to look what is more "attractive" in one's own view. Some people are happy being black... some aren't - those who aren't and if they would rather feel happier being light skinned then so be it.. whats the big deal really?? Get over it.


    For the LAST time, Sammy Sosa is NOT black, he's Dominican!!! Damn...


    We didnt say he wasn't Dominican..but from what i see.....hes a black Dominican..that better for you? Its the same as saying..black or white, Asian Jamaicans....or black white Americans...
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:22 PM GMT
    Shifty84 said
    Jetsetter99 saidMaybe it has nothing to do with changing one's race - but simply to look what is more "attractive" in one's own view. Some people are happy being black... some aren't - those who aren't and if they would rather feel happier being light skinned then so be it.. whats the big deal really?? Get over it.


    For the LAST time, Sammy Sosa is NOT black, he's Dominican!!! Damn...


    HAHA.. how stupid....whats the difference? he looks black to me.. and there are blacks all over the carribbean, south america and africa.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:26 PM GMT
    please dont resort to name calling..its not necessary. The aim of the thread is to outline the actions of people and why they resort to skin bleaching.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:27 PM GMT
    Shifty84 said
    Jetsetter99 saidMaybe it has nothing to do with changing one's race - but simply to look what is more "attractive" in one's own view. Some people are happy being black... some aren't - those who aren't and if they would rather feel happier being light skinned then so be it.. whats the big deal really?? Get over it.


    For the LAST time, Sammy Sosa is NOT black, he's Dominican!!! Damn...



    Dominicans have roots in Africa just as the black people of the US. If he was in the US during the 1800's, he would be picking somebody's cotton. Trust that.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:29 PM GMT
    Jetsetter99 saidMaybe it has nothing to do with changing one's race - but simply to look what is more "attractive" in one's own view. Some people are happy being black... some aren't - those who aren't and if they would rather feel happier being light skinned then so be it.. whats the big deal really?? Get over it.



    The big deal is about self acceptance. Anyone who bleaches his/her skin because they have fallen victim to society's image of beauty is sad. The same way we want our gay brother and sisters to be happy about being gay, I'd want my black counterparts to feel the same. however, I'm not so quick to believe any of these pixs. I know frm experience that my own pixs have come out shades darker than my skin tone in person and shades lighter in others. Not to mention if anyone can remember as far back as the OJ simpson scandal where it was alleged that time mag digitally shaded Oj's mugshot to make him appear more sinister and newsweek printed the same mugshot photo in it's true format. I think the only way to know is if you've seen him in person.

    ojcovers.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:36 PM GMT
    It's now 7:30AM Sunday morning. The sun is up and out, and it's already one big blue sky, and it's going to get up in the 30+C today, and I being so white, have to get outside very soon to do my yard work, before it gets to hot, coz then I fry, and burn, I with all my heart would like darker skin; but then so do many other people in Oz, look at all the dough people on the beach, wanting a dark crust. If I was to ever become a father, the kindest thing I could do for this child, would be to make sure it's mum was dark.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:38 PM GMT
    Jetsetter99 said
    Shifty84 said
    Jetsetter99 saidMaybe it has nothing to do with changing one's race - but simply to look what is more "attractive" in one's own view. Some people are happy being black... some aren't - those who aren't and if they would rather feel happier being light skinned then so be it.. whats the big deal really?? Get over it.


    For the LAST time, Sammy Sosa is NOT black, he's Dominican!!! Damn...


    HAHA.. how stupid....whats the difference? he looks black to me.. and there are blacks all over the carribbean, south america and africa.


    Jettsetter99:

    There is a vast difference between being a Black American and a Dominican (e.g., language, culture, history, heritage, opportunity for success, et cet.). Shifty84 didn't say something "stupid" by pointing out this difference. Clearly, it's a problem because some of the less educated/cultured routinely lump individuals with dark skin into one category. Sure, our origin might be the same. And our skin color might be similar; however, what happened from circa-1650 onward varies from country to country. And those variations in history are what make us different.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:48 PM GMT
    tb_1982 said
    Jetsetter99 said
    Shifty84 said
    Jetsetter99 saidMaybe it has nothing to do with changing one's race - but simply to look what is more "attractive" in one's own view. Some people are happy being black... some aren't - those who aren't and if they would rather feel happier being light skinned then so be it.. whats the big deal really?? Get over it.


    For the LAST time, Sammy Sosa is NOT black, he's Dominican!!! Damn...


    HAHA.. how stupid....whats the difference? he looks black to me.. and there are blacks all over the carribbean, south america and africa.


    Jettsetter99:

    There is a vast difference between being a Black American and a Dominican (e.g., language, culture, history, heritage, opportunity for success, et cet.). Shifty84 didn't say something "stupid" by pointing out this difference. Clearly, it's a problem because some of the less educated/cultured routinely lump individuals with dark skin into one category. Sure, our origin might be the same. And our skin color might be similar; however, what happened from circa-1650 onward varies from country to country. And those variations in history are what make us different.


    Saying someone is black does not signify one's national origin. Certainly across the world there are black people with countless languages, history, etc. Have you ever heard the term the black diaspora? Here's a few websites with more info:

    http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/shangrila/miami/16/black1.html

    http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/catalog/index.php?cPath=1037_3130_3139

    http://www.ubp.com/The_Diaspora/

    Oh and these were put together by educated black people. Also, W.E.B Dubois has numerous studies on the subject.
  • jgymnast733

    Posts: 1783

    Nov 07, 2009 8:54 PM GMT
    It's sad when someone hasnt learned to love themselves,,warts and all...
    I'v been hated for being too black for some and not black enough for others, i can see how some might resort to bleaching or tanning even to look as they say BETTER.. you gotta love yourselves people,,because---
    If you dont love yourselve, how in the hell can you love somebody else.icon_exclaim.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 8:56 PM GMT

    This is just Doug. I think this guy, being from the Caribbean could very well have mixed ancestry. Some of my relatives, since moving up here from Jamaica, look white. Put them back in Jamaica or out in the sun here for awhile and they tan darker than any white person. Their heritage becomes plainly obvious. One of my cousins mirrors those two pics of Sammy Sosa in skin colour - she's 1/4 black. In the summer she's very black, and in the winter the same lightened tone as him.

    Joey, what you just pointed out with those links is interesting, and makes me wonder, with all those divergent cultures etc how is there what people keep referring to as 'black culture'? I suspect it's a US thing.
  • jgymnast733

    Posts: 1783

    Nov 07, 2009 8:58 PM GMT
    joeyveras said
    Shifty84 said
    Jetsetter99 saidMaybe it has nothing to do with changing one's race - but simply to look what is more "attractive" in one's own view. Some people are happy being black... some aren't - those who aren't and if they would rather feel happier being light skinned then so be it.. whats the big deal really?? Get over it.


    For the LAST time, Sammy Sosa is NOT black, he's Dominican!!! Damn...



    Dominicans have roots in Africa just as the black people of the US. If he was in the US during the 1800's, he would be picking somebody's cotton. Trust that.

    AMEN,,,
    you better preach...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    WOH GLORY.......icon_exclaim.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Nov 07, 2009 9:36 PM GMT
    i was watching an episode of oprah about internal racism within ones own ethnic society.
    she had brought onto a show an asian. and she was of Korean decent and was an american. being Korean and Japanese etc, there is a characteristic that is naturally inherited by them where if u look at their eyelids, there in most cases, there is no "fold" that defines the eyes. there is just "one layer of flat skin". so now in Korea and Japan etc, the most common cosmetic surgery that is being performed is having that eye lid skin cut and formed into a fold.
    having been told this information and to the suprise of many of the public, this was a perception that was emphasised within the asian community itself, and had nothing to do with racism or prejudice that was expressed through the western society. at this day and age, although racism has been overthrown in the western society, it seems that each ethnic community still has its altered perception of beauty. which of course naturally came from decades of racism.
    so i understand that its easy to say that the prejudices can come from a racial perception that would have been very prevalent many decades ago.
    however it is not right to constantly blame the western society for their passed issues, which still prevail to this day. it seems that each ethnic society hasnt let go of the racial prejudices. in short, it means that asians are being racist/prejudicial/critical of other asians. and i choose to talk about asians because i am one. and i think this story can be used as an analogy for racism within a black community.
  • calibro

    Posts: 8888

    Nov 07, 2009 9:51 PM GMT
    did it ever occur to you that he didn't bleach his skin and that the steroids he used to take resulted in him having vitiligo?icon_evil.gif