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Nov 08, 2009 12:22 AM GMT
Interesting article in the New York Times (may already have been discussed here, bu this site's search sucks)
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/phys-ed-why-doesnt-exercise-lead-to-weight-loss/?em
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Nov 08, 2009 8:14 AM GMT
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Nov 08, 2009 2:03 PM GMT
You can easily consume far more calories than is possible to burn off with exercise. The article mentioned that the average 1/2 hour exercise session burns around 200 to 300 calories. If you consume a 12 oz bottle of Gatorade (310 calories) with exercise, you will not have achieved a net caloric loss. If you are running 10 minute miles, it takes one hour and 20 minutes to burn the the 900 calories in a Burger King Double Whopper. It takes 12 minutes of running just to burn the calories in a 12 oz can of Coke Classic. It is obvious that a reduction in caloric intake is very important to the overweight individual wanting to lose weight. A list of "Sin" foods and the amount of exercise needed to burn the calories. http://www.ivannikolov.com/bodybuilding-articles/all/how-to-burn-off-foods.htmlThe article "Beneficial effects of exercise: shifting the focus from body weight to other markers of health" was referred to in the Times article The conclusion was: These data demonstrate that significant and meaningful health benefits can be achieved even in the presence of lower than expected exercise-induced weight loss. Less successful reduction in body weight does not undermine the beneficial effects of aerobic exercise. From a public health perspective, exercise should be encouraged and the emphasis on weight loss reduced. http://bjsm.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/bjsm.2009.065557v1
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Nov 08, 2009 2:38 PM GMT
No exercise program in the world can keep up with the new and wonderful things people keep inventing to eat:  Triple Decker Pizza Stack Layered with Buffalo Chicken Wings  Chicken McNugget Pie  The Windows 7 Whopper (not sure what the connection to Windows 7 is, but apparently it's offered in Japan) ... and many, many more of these can be found on http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/
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Nov 08, 2009 3:08 PM GMT
The secret to weight loss is no secret. Fewer calories consumed than expended. However, this is easier said than done. The problem with processed foods is the amount of sugar and fat contained therein which stimulate more eating. I was 348lbs and couldn't find a way to lose weight despite working out with a trainer. I didn't have the stamina to exercise enough to expend a large number of calories. Since I've had a gastric bypass, I've lost 130lbs. Now, I find it much easier to manage my weight (I still have to manage weight, just easier to do so). For me, the key is making vegetables a key component of my diet. Both raw and cooked vegetables add volume without adding lots of calories. I get full with fewer calores (see Barbara Rolls, Volumetrics). Vegetables, fruits, lean protein and whole grains, low fat dairy, beans, nuts, seeds. When I eat this way, the cravings associated with sugar go away with my main source of sugar being whole fruit. I'm satisfied with fewer calories and I am taking in more nutrients and my weight drops accordingly. When I was eating high sugar, high fat foods, my appetite was hardly ever satisfied and I would eat into the night. Exercise is important for me in weight control, not because of calorie expenditure. but because of improved body image. I am more motivated to eat well when I exercise. Exercise is very important for weight maintenance. Research by Rena Wing shows that those who maintain weight loss are likely to exercise 60 minutes or more daily.
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Nov 08, 2009 3:55 PM GMT
Neophoenician saidNo exercise program in the world can keep up with the new and wonderful things people keep inventing to eat: Everyone of those was disgusting. I think I would rather starve.
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Nov 08, 2009 3:57 PM GMT
rdberg1957 said Vegetables, fruits, lean protein and whole grains, low fat dairy, beans, nuts, seeds. When I eat this way, the cravings associated with sugar go away with my main source of sugar being whole fruit. It really is that simple. Shop the edges of the store - meats, veggies, fruits, dairy, you know, REAL food.
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Nov 09, 2009 8:30 PM GMT
Diet is the key. 
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Nov 10, 2009 6:08 PM GMT
Resistance training burns far more calories and the calorie burning continues for hours after you stop exercsing. Also, muscles burn calories, fat doesn't.
When you are doing cardio, you burn only the calories while exercising. In fact, I read that overdoing cardio may actually be counterproductive and cause you to loose muscle and gain weight.
For someone overweight, the key is diet.
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Nov 10, 2009 8:59 PM GMT
The burger looks good though but I'd rather make my own from like ground turkey or extra extra lean beef.
My god that'll be my weekend!
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Nov 10, 2009 9:43 PM GMT
I need a private chef... A full time masseur too...
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Nov 12, 2009 3:33 PM GMT
Lostboy saidI need a private chef... A full time masseur too... And a driver.......don't forget the driver. Comes in handy when you have to make 8 or 10 quick stops around town. Would be great to have a driver waiting for you out front to wisk you off to your next destination.
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Nov 12, 2009 3:54 PM GMT
Neophoenician said
 The Windows 7 Whopper (not sure what the connection to Windows 7 is, but apparently it's offered in Japan)
... and many, many more of these can be found on http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/ It was a limited release to celebrate the release of Windows 7 in Japan. It had 7 patties and cost 777 yen. I think it was only out for 7 days. Too bad it wasn't 777 callories.
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Nov 12, 2009 6:54 PM GMT
Lostboy saidI need a private chef... A full time masseur too... Call me in about a year for that masseur opening!
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Nov 14, 2009 3:14 AM GMT
I've probably done every diet known to man, and the one working best for me now is simply smaller healthier meals of certain fruits, all veggies, only turkey and chicken (meat once per week), skim milk, eggs, and some starches like diet (light) bread and crackers. The KEY: cut salt by 85%.
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