More muscle mass

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    Nov 08, 2009 8:33 PM GMT
    Hi all. I'm sure this topic has been talked about, but I've been working out at a high intensity for about 2 years (I am 26 now), involving mostly weight training. My gains are so slow!! I'm around 6'2"; I used to be very skinny (before I quit smoking cigarettes, I was around 160 lbs), then after I quit I ballooned up to 220. About a year later, I decided to start working out a whole lot -- five days a week on average. I do one day heavy chest/light arms, then one day light chest/heavy arms and shoulders, then a day of shoulders/back, then legs, then an aerobic day (as much as I can), then rest days. I'm still stuck right at 220, which is what I was at the height of the weight gain post-quitting smoking. I do look a lot slimmer, and I can tell I've been losing fat and gaining a little muscle, but it's so slow! I can't break over 220 no matter what I do. At night I may get up to 225 or so, but of course the next morning I'm right back down even to 215. I eat everything in sight, about 3500-4000 calories a day, full of all kinds of protein, like cottage cheese, fat free yogurt, plant protein like beans, nuts, etc., beef, chicken, all sorts of veggies, etc. I use creatine every day, fish oil, multivitamin supplements, etc etc. I feel very healthy except occasional hiccups, but I just am not getting the muscle mass I want! Is this because I'm only recently athletic at all? Do I need to actually go to a gym instead of using my home gym? It's a Gold's Gym home gym with the plates in the back -- I can look up the model if you need to know. Short of steroids or HGH, what can I use or do for my regimine to really gain some real muscle mass, as a motivated ectomorph? My pics are on realjock, with a few updated pics from today. Thanks for your help!

    --Chris S.
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    Nov 08, 2009 10:21 PM GMT
    mmm some of the better bb guys may chime in.

    Home gym issue: your muscles donĀ“t know or care where you are, but you may have a smaller repertoire of exercises that you can do on the home gym, you may have less intensity, you may have sloppy form... none of which i can tell from here. This MIGHT be an issue, but need not be. How often do you change your routines?

    Food: when do you eat?

    Routine: your split looks kooky. it could well be that you are not getting enough rest to grow and not doing enough cardio to cut (set piece gym cardio is not essential for getting ripped, BUT it does make it a lot faster). You have three upper body days in a row if the order you put is the order you do. You probably want to work legs 2 times a week, upper body 2 times. Each day finish with 10 to 15 mins of intervals (lots of info on them on the site... look in cardio section for HIIT). then you could use the 5th day for either different cardio, more focussed stretching, a circuit day with light weights or body weight for active recovery and fat burning or core work... when do you do that, btw?

    Looks to me that there are a number of variables which could bring success... and it takes time for most of us.

    Give more info and we might have better things to say
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    Nov 08, 2009 10:46 PM GMT
    You have to find what works for you. You may want to read up on hypertrophy.

    If you're as much as you say you are,you might still not be getting enough calories. At 6'2", and 215#, you aren't super skinny, but, if you want to look massive, at your height, you'll need to gain about 30 more pounds.

    You should have a blood working with T3/T4 and testosterone to see if you're in optimal hormonal conditions. Some folks run around with undiagnosed hyperthyroidism and can't gain. Other folks have low testosterone, and never know. Testosterone (the male hormone that's also an AAS) can provide a number of benefits as you grow older. Contrary to some fluff you might have heard, it's good medicine, and can protect your heart, increase your lean mass, lower your body fat, increase your libido, and overall mood, preserve bone, adding years to your life / preserving your youth, and allowing you to be very active well past middle age. You'll want to study up on anti-aging. It's always a better idea to prevent a problem rather than treat it.
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    Nov 08, 2009 10:51 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidYou have to find what works for you. You may want to read up on hypertrophy.

    Some folks run around with undiagnosed hyper-hypothyroidism and can't gain.
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    I have hypothyroidism (mild case) and I can make gains just fine, I thought it was hyper, not hypo that impeded gains? I've always found that I needed to eat a LOT more food than I thought I would to make gains, which is good, since I LOVE to eat.
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    Nov 09, 2009 3:48 AM GMT
    neodraka saidHi all. I'm sure this topic has been talked about, but I've been working out at a high intensity for about 2 years (I am 26 now), involving mostly weight training. My gains are so slow!! I'm around 6'2"; I used to be very skinny (before I quit smoking cigarettes, I was around 160 lbs), then after I quit I ballooned up to 220. About a year later, I decided to start working out a whole lot -- five days a week on average. I do one day heavy chest/light arms, then one day light chest/heavy arms and shoulders, then a day of shoulders/back, then legs, then an aerobic day (as much as I can), then rest days. I'm still stuck right at 220, which is what I was at the height of the weight gain post-quitting smoking. I do look a lot slimmer, and I can tell I've been losing fat and gaining a little muscle, but it's so slow! I can't break over 220 no matter what I do. At night I may get up to 225 or so, but of course the next morning I'm right back down even to 215. I eat everything in sight, about 3500-4000 calories a day, full of all kinds of protein, like cottage cheese, fat free yogurt, plant protein like beans, nuts, etc., beef, chicken, all sorts of veggies, etc. I use creatine every day, fish oil, multivitamin supplements, etc etc. I feel very healthy except occasional hiccups, but I just am not getting the muscle mass I want! Is this because I'm only recently athletic at all? Do I need to actually go to a gym instead of using my home gym? It's a Gold's Gym home gym with the plates in the back -- I can look up the model if you need to know. Short of steroids or HGH, what can I use or do for my regimine to really gain some real muscle mass, as a motivated ectomorph? My pics are on realjock, with a few updated pics from today. Thanks for your help!



    --Chris S.


    Eat more. To maintain my weight I have to eat 3800 calories, to gain weight I have to eat at least 4300 calories.... you just gotta eat man.. i am the same height as you.. a little younger tho so I can probably eat more.. but Im sure its similar... also you might want to change up your lifting routine