700 Clergy and Lay Leaders from Across New York State Call on New York Senate to Pass Marriage Equality Bill

  • metta

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    Nov 09, 2009 9:11 PM GMT

    700 Clergy and Lay Leaders from Across New York State Call on New York Senate to Pass Marriage Bill

    http://www.prideagenda.org/tabid/304/default.aspx?c=402
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    Nov 09, 2009 9:19 PM GMT
    1. You might edit your subject line to mention that this is a pro-gay marriage bill, to draw more attention to it here.

    2. You might also mention that it is uniformly opposed by Republicans in the New York State legislature. So that Republican Party advocates here can explain why they support the anti-gay Republican Party.

    Thanks for the link.
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    Nov 09, 2009 9:52 PM GMT
    That is incorrect Vespa. Five members of the GOP voted for marriage equality in the Assembly, including Dede Scozzafava who was forced out of the NY-23 congressional race due to, in part, her support for marriage equality.

    Now we go to the Senate where the Democratic majority leader/douchebag Pedro Espada opposes it. Democrats like Bill Stachowski (who represents the largest concentration of GLBT people in Western New York) and Ruben Diaz (who has a gay brother) opposes it. None of the 30 Republicans have come out in favor of the bill, but several Democrats have come out against it.

    While Republicans suck and suck hard, we need to elect better Democrats.
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    Nov 10, 2009 12:54 AM GMT
    Rudy Guilliani supports gay marriage
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    Nov 10, 2009 1:22 AM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidWhile Republicans suck and suck hard, we need to elect better Democrats.
    QFT.
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    Nov 10, 2009 1:27 AM GMT
    Rodmramer saidRudy Guilliani supports gay marriage

    Rudy Giuliani does drag, and is likely a closet case. As I stated previously, all NY state Republicans oppose this bill, and sadly some Democrats. We can but wait & see how it turns out.
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    Nov 10, 2009 4:17 AM GMT
    Paterson calls for action on gay marriage, deficit

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    Nov 10, 2009 11:57 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa said
    You might also mention that it is uniformly opposed by Republicans in the New York State legislature. So that Republican Party advocates here can explain why they support the anti-gay Republican Party.


    Yes!
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Nov 10, 2009 1:32 PM GMT
    I hope those on here that say us gay Christians are supporting anti-gay Church's, read this.
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    Nov 10, 2009 2:13 PM GMT
    MikePhilPerez saidI hope those on here that say us gay Christians are supporting an anti-gay Church, read this.


    The weasel word is "an".
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    Nov 10, 2009 2:23 PM GMT
    TigerTim said
    MikePhilPerez saidI hope those on here that say us gay Christians are supporting an anti-gay Church, read this.


    The weasel word is "an".


    There are weasels on here, but they are not words. I will edit for you.
  • Timbales

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    Nov 10, 2009 2:32 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidThat is incorrect Vespa. Five members of the GOP voted for marriage equality in the Assembly, including Dede Scozzafava who was forced out of the NY-23 congressional race due to, in part, her support for marriage equality.

    Now we go to the Senate where the Democratic majority leader/douchebag Pedro Espada opposes it. Democrats like Bill Stachowski (who represents the largest concentration of GLBT people in Western New York) and Ruben Diaz (who has a gay brother) opposes it. None of the 30 Republicans have come out in favor of the bill, but several Democrats have come out against it.

    While Republicans suck and suck hard, we need to elect better Democrats.


    What? Democrats that aren't supporting gay rights? Surely you can't be serious.

    that is sarcasm for anyone who didn't pick up on it
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    Nov 10, 2009 2:34 PM GMT
    It doesn't change the official stance of your church, Mike, the catholic church. Instead of lobbying us to be nice to your church, why not lobby your church and the piece of shit in charge of it to be nice to us?
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    Nov 10, 2009 3:07 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa said
    Rodmramer saidRudy Guilliani supports gay marriage

    Rudy Giuliani does drag, and is likely a closet case. As I stated previously, all NY state Republicans oppose this bill, and sadly some Democrats. We can but wait & see how it turns out.


    For a closet case, he has an awful lot of ex-wives. I do think that famous picture of him in drag cost him the Republican nomination in 2008, though. when he was thought to be the hands-down frontrunner early on. The "base" of the GOP can be very unforgiving, as Dede Scozzafava just found out.
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    Nov 10, 2009 3:13 PM GMT
    McGay saidIt doesn't change the official stance of your church, Mike, the catholic church. Instead of lobbying us to be nice to your church, why not lobby your church and the piece of shit in charge of it to be nice to us?


    The official stance of the Catholic church will change. It will have no choice. The Pope we have now will not change, but successive ones will. The civil partnership bill that we hope to get through soon, here in Ireland will be something the Catholic Church will have to deal with. They are trying to get changes made to it, so they can opt out of allowing us our rights, but in my opinion the justices department will not entertain them. When the bill gets through, it will be one more step in getting them to be nice to us (as you put it).

    I think what has really pissed me off on this website, is the hate I have received from a very small group on this site after they found out I was Catholic and attend Church. I mean, I'm not the Pope. I support my local Church and I have never heard a word of hate towards gays or anyone for that matter form our Priest. In fact a gay guy is a Eucharist minister in that church.

    The hate needs to stop in the Catholic Church and it needs to stop on RJ too.
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    Nov 10, 2009 3:31 PM GMT
    MikePhillPerez -- sorry you've been harassed for your beliefs, but you will have to admit that gays as a group receive the brunt of its problems from the church going folks. This church going group are the most devisive and the first to cheer on anyone against gays, and frequently even cheer on downright abuse of gays, as being justified because you know the bible says they are worthy of 'stoning' (or something close according to the book of leviticus).
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    Nov 10, 2009 3:32 PM GMT
    If you are equating the animosity toward the catholic church with the animosity towards gays from the catholic church, you've got your head in the sand, Mike. Think on who is initiating attacks here. The catholic church does not come after gays as retaliation for some act of oppression against the church perpetuated by gays. The reverse, however, is true. Gays didn't start this battle, the church did, so, fuck them and the savior they rode in on.
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    Nov 10, 2009 3:59 PM GMT
    the Bigots are mobilizing for New York too
    [url]http://www.nationformarriage.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=omL2KeN0LzH&b=5075187&content_id={40A2E287-CEDD-467D-9DA5-6A8C4B9F9552}&notoc=1[/url]

    NATIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR MARRIAGE SENDS A MESSAGE TO NEW YORK STATE GOP LEGISLATORS: “"Vote for Gay Marriage and We Will Fund a Primary Challenge."

    WASHINGTON – Following up on its successful campaign to defeat Dede Scozzafava in NY-23, The National Organization for Marriage’s (NOM) Executive Director Brian Brown announced plans to build a $500,000 war chest to fund a primary challenge to any Republican senator who votes for gay marriage – regardless of the outcome of Tuesday’s vote in the State Senate.

    "There is no Republican Senate district in New York where the majority of people support gay marriage. Maine has made that very clear,” said Brian Brown. "The GOP should learn from Dede Scozzafava's experience: voting for gay marriage does not pay."

    50 percent of voters who abandoned Dede Scozzafava to vote for Doug Hoffman said that Dede's vote for gay marriage was a significant factor, according to a NOM poll of voters in NY-23 released on Election Day.

    New York’s Governor Paterson pushed the same sex marriage bill to the top of the priority list for this week’s State Senate vote.



    They threaten to do to any NY state assembly person who supports Marriage Equality what they did to Dede Scozzafava : How did that turn out for them? This is the first time in 100 years a democrat won that seat!