American Family Association calls for ban on Muslims in the Military.

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    Nov 10, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
    Don't Ask, Don't Turn to Mecca
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    Nov 10, 2009 4:27 PM GMT

    oh for Pete's sake, what's next , internment camps? What a ridiculous Association.
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    Nov 10, 2009 4:36 PM GMT
    Here´s a handy hint! Every time you see the word "family" in any right wing organisation then replace it with the word "retarded Fuckwit". It makes so much more sense that way.

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    And I mean Christians shouldn´t be allowed to serve either as some of them are anti-abortion terrorists.
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    Nov 10, 2009 4:54 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    oh for Pete's sake, what's next , internment camps? What a ridiculous Association.

    "Ridiculous" doesn't do them credit. Try dangerous, lunatic, fanatical, unbalanced, bigoted, prejudiced and extremist, just for starters. icon_mad.gif
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    Nov 10, 2009 5:46 PM GMT
    Soon, only married, child bearing christians with health care will be allowed to kill.
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    Nov 10, 2009 5:54 PM GMT
    McGay saidSoon, only married, child bearing christians with health care will be allowed to kill.

    And only among those who own land, and have at least 8 children, and drive the biggest gas-guzzlers ever built.
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    Nov 10, 2009 6:21 PM GMT
    Well here we go with the 'christian talaban' again. There's no church goers quite like Americans when it comes to out and out unchristlike behavior where others rights are concerned. Look at their stand on Immigration, most christian right voters will gladly separate families, jail people, encamp children of immigrants who have been 'removed', another example is a poll taken of people who back bush/cheney torture and up in the 90 percentile of those approving were christian right evengelical voters. I could go on and on. Anyone not believing we have to fight to keep religion out of politics and state/federal government should look to these type issues and surely they'ed change their minds.
  • ShawnTX

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    Nov 10, 2009 6:23 PM GMT
    I agree that American Muslims should be disenfranchised and kicked out of the military. It worked so well in Iraq.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 10, 2009 10:29 PM GMT
    The American Family Association is nothing more than a bunch of brainless, religious fanatics hell bent on imposing their brand of Christianity upon the rest of American society. There a "family" association, yeah right that is the biggest laugh of the century.
  • GQjock

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    Nov 10, 2009 10:34 PM GMT
    How about a ban on the American Family Association?

    There we'd be doin some good
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 10, 2009 10:50 PM GMT
    Outlawing the American Family Association would be doing some long overdue good. One less group of right wing lunatics to worry about.
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    Nov 10, 2009 10:56 PM GMT
    McGay saidSoon, only married, child bearing christians with health care will be allowed to kill.


    Lovely image right there.
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    Nov 11, 2009 5:19 AM GMT
    The thought has been going thru my head all day.. If Major Hasan from Fort Hood had been emailing a well-known gay rights advocate instead of a Yemeni Iman, if he had been advocating a repeal of DADT rather than advocating NCO status for Muslims, would he not have had his ass kicked out of the Army some years ago?
    I mean absolutly no respect to Islam or Muslims, but the difference in treatment in this case does make one think. Major Hasan was free to advocate his positions because we have free speech, even though it is somewhat limited in the armed services. Free speech apparently only if you are not living your life as a gay person.
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    Nov 11, 2009 5:59 AM GMT
    The American Family Association can try teaching them "Amurkens" Arabic, Kurdish, Turkish, Farsi, Pashto, Urdu, and other languages heavily needed in the military right now, however the wide range of religio-socio-cultural foresight those Muslims bring to the field is not only extremely necessary but also something the military can't afford to lose.
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    Nov 11, 2009 6:06 AM GMT
    I think we all know AFA is ridiculous.

    Thanks, antelope, for that interesting twist, though I'd simply say that the US military is obviously more tolerant of homicidal maniacs than of homos.
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    Nov 11, 2009 6:24 AM GMT
    I find it revolting that these people have stolen the word "family" and made it ugly.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 11, 2009 10:14 PM GMT
    Remove the term "family" and replace it with fascist. That is exactly what these right wing lunatics are a bunch of fascists. They want to dictate their primitive beliefs upon all Americans.icon_mad.gif
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    Nov 11, 2009 10:20 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidI find it revolting that these people have stolen the word "family" and made it ugly.


    Indeed. No term has been more used as a club with which to beat us senseless than "family."
  • coolarmydude

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    Nov 11, 2009 10:22 PM GMT
    Perhaps I should become a Muslim so that I could challenge the status quo. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I am so sick of the Army. My retirement comes in 33.5 months and none the sooner. Accountability doesn't exist in leadership any more. This summer, I was threatened with being fired for doing my job in following procurement rules. The higher ups don't like it when they're told they can't do something by their subordinates. Accountability jumped off a cliff around the beginning of this decade. It's disheartening to me.


    And now with this tragedy in Fort Hood...leaders failed Soldiers...again. They chose not to do the right thing...expedience over accountability. They couldn't see past the immediacy of the red flags present concerning MAJ Hasan. There are some great leaders, but they have become fewer and farther in between in my 17+ years in the Army.


    The handling of Pat Tillman's death was a disgraceful lack of accountability. The leadership involved in the subsequent investigations chose to save face and their reputation instead of accept the hard truth and act appropriately.


    Army leadership has become a Chain of Cowards. icon_redface.gificon_sad.gificon_cry.gif
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    Nov 11, 2009 10:23 PM GMT
    OMG! oh I mean ... OMA! icon_cool.gif
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    Nov 11, 2009 10:28 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    oh for Pete's sake, what's next , internment camps? What a ridiculous Association.


    *ahem* ... they ACTUALLY already have those... they're just empty, so far.

    and come join our "Family Association" .... but no Muslims allowed! And while we're at it, no blacks, Jews, women, or fags! ..... just "family"...

    ugh... some people make me sick
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 11, 2009 10:39 PM GMT
    The so-called American Family Association should be officially renamed the American Fascist Assholes because these primitive minded assholes make me want to vomit.icon_mad.gif
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    Nov 11, 2009 10:43 PM GMT
    jarhead5536 said
    TigerTim saidI find it revolting that these people have stolen the word "family" and made it ugly.


    Indeed. No term has been more used as a club with which to beat us senseless than "family."


    Hence my post above: its simple substitution with the phrase "retarded Fuckwit" will clarify most religious right communication.
  • jrs1

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    Nov 11, 2009 10:47 PM GMT

    FAIL
  • bchbum

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    Nov 11, 2009 11:05 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidPerhaps I should become a Muslim so that I could challenge the status quo. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I am so sick of the Army. My retirement comes in 33.5 months and none the sooner. Accountability doesn't exist in leadership any more. This summer, I was threatened with being fired for doing my job in following procurement rules. The higher ups don't like it when they're told they can't do something by their subordinates. Accountability jumped off a cliff around the beginning of this decade. It's disheartening to me.


    And now with this tragedy in Fort Hood...leaders failed Soldiers...again. They chose not to do the right thing...expedience over accountability. They couldn't see past the immediacy of the red flags present concerning MAJ Hasan. There are some great leaders, but they have become fewer and farther in between in my 17+ years in the Army.


    The handling of Pat Tillman's death was a disgraceful lack of accountability. The leadership involved in the subsequent investigations chose to save face and their reputation instead of accept the hard truth and act appropriately.


    Army leadership has become a Chain of Cowards. icon_redface.gificon_sad.gificon_cry.gif


    Totally agree with that statement. I got out after 6 years because of the shit. The higher ups missed all the red flags and did nothing. He had unsat OER's and should have been released years ago. Another side note on that. SSG DeCrow (one of the 13 killed) was also jerked around by the Army. He tried to get out after a year in Korea on a med discharge. It was all going through, and then they decided to get one last deployement out him and sent him to Ft. Hood....where he got shot. I remember the guy as a fresh faced kid out high school.