Ugly Betty's Justin Suarez, "I'm not gay"

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    Nov 14, 2009 5:59 PM GMT
    Fans of the show Ugly Betty know that Betty's adolescent nephew Justin, an effete fashionista, is assumed to be gay.

    So far, the show has been coy about addressing his sexual orientation directly. But on last night's show, Justin is the butt of a joke in which he's named "homecoming queen". After his mom expresses support for him, "I love you no matter who you are", Justin tells his mom, "I'm not gay."

    This is the first time the show has broached the subject of his sexuality. It'll be interesting to see how the show plays out this season.

    I have to give kudos to the young actor who plays Justin, Mark Indelicato. He shows a lot of maturity in playing the role. And kudos to the show for showing what an adolescent in high school, who is most likely gay, goes through as they grow up and deal with their orientation.

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    Nov 14, 2009 6:15 PM GMT
    Oh yea.. I saw that last night, and the dude from CSI was super sexy, but yeh I wasn't sure what to think. Seemed to me that there were a number of gays on the show. I don't watch much tv. Ugly betty just happen to be on when I decided to turn on the tele.
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    Nov 14, 2009 6:17 PM GMT
    Of course the ONE night the roommate didn't tivo the fucking show!!!!!!
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    Nov 14, 2009 10:11 PM GMT
    It was a great show right up to the point Justin anounced "I'm not gay". I can not believe ABC and the producers are going to jump back into main stream America and turn this character straight. Justin is the role modle of gay teenage America. Now just to dump them is unacceptable. I was one of those gay teenagers (actually less having come out at age 8 ) and had no one to look up to expecially someone my own age. Jason gave teenage gays a reason to hold their heads up high and be porud of themselves. I am very disapointed.
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    Nov 14, 2009 10:20 PM GMT
    clancy saidIt was a great show right up to the point Justin anounced "I'm not gay". I can not believe ABC and the producers are going to jump back into main stream America and turn this character straight. Justin is the role modle of gay teenage America. Now just to dump them is unacceptable. I was one of those gay teenagers (actually less having come out at age 8 ) and had no one to look up to expecially someone my own age. Jason gave teenage gays a reason to hold their heads up high and be porud of themselves. I am very disapointed.

    If you think that's the direction they're taking his character, I think you're missing something. How many gay teenagers have said, to themselves or others, "I'm not gay" when they really were?

    The show is portraying the life of a gay teen as it really is. I doubt they have any intention of turning Justin straight.
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    Nov 14, 2009 10:34 PM GMT
    If that kid isn't gay wow...but I've always denied being gay even when my mom found my pics of naked gay men on the Computer I denied it so much that I was like 3000000000% sure she believed the story I told her but... now that I look back I'm sure she knows I'm gay lol icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 14, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
    Thus is primetime TV. They'll spin this out for all it's worth. I like Ugly Betty, but sometimes I find they make a trivial storyline into something painful (and not in a good way) to watch.

    Justin says "I'm not gay". There will now be a zillion episodes with hijinx about him pretending to be straight, he'll estrange mark, become unpopular, cry, and then eventually in a fit of 'emotion' admit he's gay. At least, that's my prediction.
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    Nov 14, 2009 11:44 PM GMT
    postyork saidThus is primetime TV. They'll spin this out for all it's worth. I like Ugly Betty, but sometimes I find they make a trivial storyline into something painful (and not in a good way) to watch.

    Justin says "I'm not gay". There will now be a zillion episodes with hijinx about him pretending to be straight, he'll estrange mark, become unpopular, cry, and then eventually in a fit of 'emotion' admit he's gay. At least, that's my prediction.




    No. They're going to turn him into David Bromstad...

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  • Celticmusl

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    Nov 15, 2009 12:15 AM GMT
    Glee did the same thing. One of the teenage characters denied he was gay then eventually admitted to his father he was gay.

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    Nov 15, 2009 12:18 AM GMT
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    clancy saidIt was a great show right up to the point Justin anounced "I'm not gay". I can not believe ABC and the producers are going to jump back into main stream America and turn this character straight. Justin is the role modle of gay teenage America. Now just to dump them is unacceptable. I was one of those gay teenagers (actually less having come out at age 8 ) and had no one to look up to expecially someone my own age. Jason gave teenage gays a reason to hold their heads up high and be porud of themselves. I am very disapointed.

    If you think that's the direction they're taking his character, I think you're missing something. How many gay teenagers have said, to themselves or others, "I'm not gay" when they really were?

    The show is portraying the life of a gay teen as it really is. I doubt they have any intention of turning Justin straight.



    But even if they did, it will give viewers a look into what is happening in today's schools. Kids being victimized for being different.
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    Nov 15, 2009 12:34 AM GMT
    Celticmusl saidGlee did the same thing. One of the teenage characters denied he was gay then eventually admitted to his father he was gay.



    Exactly. And I mean, sure, it's realistic in that this happens to lots of us in our journey to becoming who we are, but I think as a character Justin always seemed stronger than that. He always seemed sure of who he was in the sense of his sexuality. Guess it's just another plot point for them to tinker with.
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    Nov 15, 2009 12:34 AM GMT
    I love Ugly Betty.

    Amanda Rocks, Wilhelmina is devilish, Mark & Justin are sharp and the rest of the cast is cool too.
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    Nov 15, 2009 12:58 AM GMT
    Going_Offline saidOMG!
    Side-topic:
    Is anyone else in love with the new scruffy Daniel Meade?
    Although he did gain a lot of weight.


    He looks better, but still I am not attracted. I prefer the CSI dude. Oh la la...!
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    Nov 15, 2009 2:03 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    I know it's not the same thing with Justin with his family but I'm sure there have been some of you that have denied your sexuality when confronted about it.


    Ya know......




    this TV show may not be real.
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    Nov 15, 2009 3:18 AM GMT
    Why is it so bad that a blatant stereotype doesn't turn out to be gay?
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    Nov 15, 2009 11:57 PM GMT
    I find it funny that so many are feeling so sorry for the efem fashionista Justin on ugly betty when these are some of the main types of men that are treated like crap in the gay community. And alot of times its the gay ones... the ones as they say that can pass as straight that gives them the most problems in highschool/life.
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    Nov 16, 2009 12:59 AM GMT
    Personally I hope this event is "just a phase” and develops into how teens handle their developing sexuality. Justin may have said it because he is afraid of his sexuality, or in denial.
    I have trouble believing they could lead an audience on this far, and then claim he’s a straight, femmy teenager. They may be butching up their Queen to improve ratings.
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    Dec 08, 2009 7:00 AM GMT
    postyork saidThus is primetime TV. They'll spin this out for all it's worth. I like Ugly Betty, but sometimes I find they make a trivial storyline into something painful (and not in a good way) to watch.

    Justin says "I'm not gay". There will now be a zillion episodes with hijinx about him pretending to be straight, he'll estrange mark, become unpopular, cry, and then eventually in a fit of 'emotion' admit he's gay. At least, that's my prediction.


    Making a trivial storyline into something long, drawn out, and often painful to watch, is the entire basis of telenovelas. I remember the first time I watched an episode of "Betty, La Fea" back around the turn of the century, I was at first just curious about the provocative title, but the show itself had an interesting premise and some decent storylines. However, after about a month, the classic telenovela format (i.e. Soap Opera outlandish plots and cliffhanger episode endings) started to annoy me like it always does, and I lost interest.

    When I heard about the premiere of an English-language "Ugly Betty" I was extremely curious both to see what they did with the characters as well as just witnessing the packaging and selling of a prime-time show that clearly signals (finally, about 20-25 years late) the mainstreaming of Latino culture in the United States. The first season was extremely well done, and I watched most of the second season as well, but the last couple years I've spent very little time watching any television at all.

    As to Justin, I always really liked that they didn't make him The Gay Poster Child. Who cares whether this fictional character wants to have romance/sex with men or not? Gay-bashing takes place in the mind of the basher; it is no respecter of the target's actual sexuality; mere difference from normal roles is its sole hatred. Rather than the gay (male) community looking for another cardboard cutout media icon to rally around, I wish they would adopt a more big-tent view and recognize that while Justin's struggles are of course unique to his personal traits, the fact that he is struggling with these issues and the way he must navigate them is a universal experience. Who he has sex with might matter to the character, but it should be irrelevant to the role that the character fills in television, which is the dominant way our collective culture dreams about itself and tries to figure out what it wants and what it wants to be.

    [As a side note, the real groundbreaking character in this kind of role was Rickie from My So-Called Life. Justin is by design a much safer character because he is young enough the issue of carnal sexuality has been easy to avoid, while acclimating audiences to his mannerisms as sorta harmless cute/funny kid -ish expressions. Rickie was a right out full-on gay young man, and the story line where after getting kicked out of the house he moves in with his gay teacher had most of the robo-christians I knew at the time holding their fingers an inch away from the "SEE! ALL THEM GAYS ARE PEDOS" button, just looking for an excuse to sound the alarms. ]