Weirdest misconceptions about why people are gay

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    Nov 18, 2009 1:31 PM GMT
    GNR7600 saidOkay, I really like this one. A kid in my hall at colllege was super high one night so a bunch of people and I were asking him questions. Someone asked him to tell everyone why there are gay people. His theory: Welllll it has to do with the mooon and the people on earth. You seeeee everyone on earth has a "pink" thing in their brain that is broken which stops you from creating moon lillys on the moon. But when your pink thing is fixed you create these moon lillys. These lillys capture the rainbows on earth (which he explains why you can never find the end of both sides of a rainbow)

    So in turn our fixed pink thing in our brains create moon lillys that capture rainbows, which ultimately make us gay. Sounds reasonable to me icon_lol.gif


    I'm gonna say you've just won this conversation.

    My input to the conversation, the clothes you wear make you gay. Back in middle school the word gay was just thrown around and I think allot of us thought gay=fem clothes and sparkles not gay=man sex.
    By their definition Twilight vampires would all have been very gay. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 18, 2009 1:46 PM GMT

    I guess my "pet" misconception is that men become gay because they were alienated from their fathers. My hunch is that people who believe this have the arrow of causation pointed in the wrong direction: i.e. some fathers probably sense there is something different about their gay son (sometimes from a very young age), don't feel comfortable and so may pay less attention to or spend less time with their gay son. There's also the other side of this coin: gay boys may not be all that interested in the stuff their straight fathers do and so distance themselves.
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    Nov 18, 2009 3:04 PM GMT
    My semi college educated brother and his wife told me they thought that smoking pot made me gay... I started laughing and said that I know quite a few straight guys that smoke pot that would argue that point to the death. Also I know quite a few gay men and women that have never smoked pot...
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    Nov 18, 2009 3:37 PM GMT
    (1) Many of these responses are quoting very dated psychological studies. It used to be thought that a boy became homosexual due to a lack of male influence in his life. That is: too much mother, not enough father. This was believed for decades until studies in the 50s and 60s showed there was no connection between these factors and a guy's orientation. Boys from the same households were gay or straight in the same proportions as the rest of the population. (2) Because of the presumed lack of male influence in a boy's life, it was thought that he had low levels of testosterone. Giving a young man more testosterone makes him more horny in whatever direction his orientation lies but does not make him heterosexual if he is not already. (3) Studies in recent decades have failed to pinpoint any one, or two, or five "causes" of an individual having a homosexual orientation. Scientists generally agree that orientation seems to be fixed early in life, but beyond that generality the only honest answer is NO ONE KNOWS. Many claim to know, and those who wave the religious flag claim the most certainty. They say homosexuality can be overcome with prayer (pray away the gay), scripture study and discipline. It is comical what they do to young men to "turn" them into heterosexuals: the toss them baseballs, show them power tools, teach them to walk and talk in certain ways. With women, they put them in dresses, style their hair and teach them to walk and talk in "feminine" ways. All this shows how superficial their understanding of sexuality is.

    So, the first theory (too much mommy, not enough daddy) has been discredited for 40 years, and the second (hormonal deficiency) was disproven well before that. The idea of changing ones sexual orientation by changing externals (sports interests, style of dress and speech) is just too laughable for anyone except religious fundamentalists to take seriously.

    I have heard that I am gay because of the excessive power lines in my parent's backyard. Or because of an overexposure to Liberace records. Or because my mother had a cocktail while carrying me.
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    Nov 18, 2009 3:50 PM GMT
    Ever ran into these people? I have a good friend, my oldest one in fact, that was homeschooled but very intelligent otherwise that once told me he thought guys would go gay if there weren't enough girls around them...

    Which was odd for me because a good half of my friends are girls, but this was before I told him about myself.

    He also postulated that it was because of a lack of testosterone, and I told him they did a study of that but found these low-testosterone gay guys just got horny...


    So what have you encountered as far as people's weird misconceptions?
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    Nov 18, 2009 3:55 PM GMT
    I think there's a genetic factor that comes into play that folks don't understand. I also think some folks choose the gay / bi path, for any number of reasons.

    At the end of the day, it's just sexuality, and not all that big an issue for regular folks who just happen to be gay bi.

    There's lots of well adjusted, normal gay / bi guys, that are not swishers, swooners, fems, fairies, etc, and know how to behave properly and love being guys. Not all queers are weird.

    The single biggest issue with gays / bi, isn't that many folks aren't willing to accept them but the false belief systems that try to indoctrinate their followers into believing that there's something wrong with folks who like to hang with the same gender. False belief systems, be they in the form of religion, cults, witchcraft, or any other false beliefs, are malarkey (DOH), and should be tossed out the window because they cause so much hurt in the world in their mind control efforts. In 2009, it's a sad statement about man that these false belief systems still proliferate. They are truly evil.
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    Nov 18, 2009 4:11 PM GMT
    Kind of funny ideas when there are so many gay guys with tons of female friends and pumped to the max with testosterone(at least here in South Beach).
  • Little_Spoon

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    Nov 18, 2009 4:13 PM GMT
    That's what happens with you sings the lyrics to Barbie Girl as a child and watch the movie Moulin Rouge about 500 times.
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    Nov 18, 2009 4:19 PM GMT
    I was reading some of the literature that Exodus International sends my parents (cause they still think I can change) and here's the biggest misconception that is also really sad that they promote.

    They say that a young male will turn gay if their father isn't involved enough in their life. They tell mothers that they need to cut their sons off and have no relationship with them after the age of 3. After that the father needs to take over raising the boy. It's really sad that they promote cutting off motherly love because it might make your son gay. I have tons of gay friends who had great relationships with their fathers. Played sports, hang out, went camping, and bunches of other stuff.
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    Nov 18, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
    this:

    Excess of Counterclockwise Scalp Hair-Whorl Rotation in Homosexual Men
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    Nov 18, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
    theantijock saidI've an idiot cousin who became a born-again new ager. In order to maintain her illusion of self-deluded superiority, she concluded that--even though she brags about having gays in the family--she thinks we didn't spend enough time being dead to have been reincarnated this time around as heterosexuals, that we came back before we were properly processed. What a freak!

    She would vote for our earthly rights to marry, but she thinks we are spiritually lacking. Ya know what? Fuck her and her vote.


    What an interesting illusion...

    So what she's saying is that we're gay because our souls didn't have enough time to process. This would mean that we are truly born gay. Does she laugh at people that are born handicapped?
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    Nov 18, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
    because you "chose" to be

    using "preference" doesn't help this idiotic notion.
    I hate the phrase "Sexual Preference" icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 18, 2009 4:53 PM GMT
    ok what kind of crack was passed around here so I can avoid it. lol
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    Nov 18, 2009 5:24 PM GMT
    MichVBPlayer28 saidI was reading some of the literature that Exodus International sends my parents (cause they still think I can change) and here's the biggest misconception that is also really sad that they promote.

    They say that a young male will turn gay if their father isn't involved enough in their life. They tell mothers that they need to cut their sons off and have no relationship with them after the age of 3. After that the father needs to take over raising the boy. It's really sad that they promote cutting off motherly love because it might make your son gay. I have tons of gay friends who had great relationships with their fathers. Played sports, hang out, went camping, and bunches of other stuff.


    This is completely untrue. I am very good friends with my dad and living grandpa and spent great amounts of time with them growing up. My dad was even the leader of our Boy Scout Troop and is one of the best male role model professions: fire chief....I just don't understand this theory...
  • Celticmusl

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    Nov 18, 2009 5:28 PM GMT
    I was shaken as a baby and the internal switch that is responsible for you being straight or gay was switched to gay. True story.
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    Nov 18, 2009 5:44 PM GMT
    Just blame it on the aliens...
    http://www.karlaturner.org/articles/bartley/manipulation_of_sexuality.html
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    Nov 18, 2009 5:53 PM GMT
    I think a lot of these "weird" reasons why some people think gays are gay
    are just so mostly guys can say

    ... hey, I can't be gay because ....... * gays were molested as a child
    don't have enough testosterone
    had no male role models
    and on and on
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    Nov 18, 2009 5:56 PM GMT
    makavelli saidEver ran into these people? I have a good friend, my oldest one in fact, that was homeschooled but very intelligent otherwise that once told me he thought guys would go gay if there weren't enough girls around them...

    When I was a kid it was thought spending time around mostly other boys made you more manly, while being seen with girls meant you were a sissy, a word that often implied gay. My grammar school playground through the 8th grade was segregated by gender, and the classroom seating was divided in half by gender, too.

    Even as you grew older and dated girls, there was still a lot of male bonding going on through sports and other activities. You could GO out with girls, but you didn't HANG out with them.

    The "lack of women" theory may come from the existence of "situational homosexuality" as found in prisons and other places with no or few women. But that's only a transient sexual response due to the unnatural circumstances, and doesn't result in a permanent switch in orientation, which reverts back to heterosexual behavior when access to women resumes.

    The same erroneous belief is contained in the joke about the Navy submarine service: "100 men go down, and 50 couples come back up." It's actually only about 5. icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 18, 2009 5:58 PM GMT

    " it's not natural ... "
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    Nov 18, 2009 6:03 PM GMT
    Celticmusl saidI was shaken as a baby and the internal switch that is responsible for you being straight or gay was switched to gay. True story.


    What an idea, damn the recruiting.. I'm off to the maternity ward to have a seizure!

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    Nov 18, 2009 6:10 PM GMT
    BodyWork4 saidbecause you "chose" to be

    using "preference" doesn't help this idiotic notion.
    I hate the phrase "Sexual Preference" icon_rolleyes.gif


    I like the term sexual orientation a bit more.
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    Nov 18, 2009 6:11 PM GMT
    theantijock saidI've an idiot cousin who became a born-again new ager. In order to maintain her illusion of self-deluded superiority, she concluded that--even though she brags about having gays in the family--she thinks we didn't spend enough time being dead to have been reincarnated this time around as heterosexuals, that we came back before we were properly processed. What a freak!

    She would vote for our earthly rights to marry, but she thinks we are spiritually lacking. Ya know what? Fuck her and her vote.



    hahaha.....somebodys got way too much time on their hands.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 18, 2009 6:13 PM GMT
    We pathalogize homosexuality. Even the word homosexuality is clinical sounding. Because it is something wrong, we have to analyze what caused this defect.

    Because it is perfectly natural and innate, all you can grasp at is bullshit.
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    Nov 18, 2009 6:18 PM GMT
    Okay, I really like this one. A kid in my hall at colllege was super high one night so a bunch of people and I were asking him questions. Someone asked him to tell everyone why there are gay people. His theory: Welllll it has to do with the mooon and the people on earth. You seeeee everyone on earth has a "pink" thing in their brain that is broken which stops you from creating moon lillys on the moon. But when your pink thing is fixed you create these moon lillys. These lillys capture the rainbows on earth (which he explains why you can never find the end of both sides of a rainbow)

    So in turn our fixed pink thing in our brains create moon lillys that capture rainbows, which ultimately make us gay. Sounds reasonable to me icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 18, 2009 6:21 PM GMT
    For years my three sisters firmly believed that my brother and I ended up gay from the one Halloween where they dressed up both up as girls.