I believe in "God" and "Satan", "good" and "evil".

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    Nov 19, 2009 7:06 PM GMT
    Does anyone else on here, or am I the only allegedly deluded, stupid and(or) insane gay male?
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    Nov 19, 2009 9:19 PM GMT
    unfortunately , no .
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    Nov 19, 2009 10:06 PM GMT
    Just know that in the near future that a belief in God and Satan will be laughed upon due to it's impressive impact on modern civilization. Just as the world was proved to be round and not flat so will be God and Satan be proved to a clever delusion.

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    Nov 19, 2009 10:08 PM GMT
    I reckon I'm willing to take my chances.
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    Nov 19, 2009 10:10 PM GMT
    track_boi saidJust know that in the near future that a belief in God and Satan will be laughed upon due to it's impressive impact on modern civilization. Just as the world was proved to be round and not flat so will be God and Satan be proved to a clever delusion.



    hmmm. a delusion alright. but clever?
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    Nov 19, 2009 10:16 PM GMT
    Hi GHew,

    Though I myself am atheist/agnostic, there are many, many regular posters on these forums who have espoused a belief in God; I am sure there are a good number who believe in Satan as well, so you're not alone. Also, while I do not share your belief, I am in no position to say that you are deluded, stupid, or insane. For all I know, you could have excellent reasons for believing.

    I'm more interested in your reference to good and evil, though. When you say that you "believe" in good and evil, what does that mean? I don't think anyone on this site would dispute the fact that there are some things people do which are evil, and other things people do which are good. Is that what you mean?
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    Nov 19, 2009 10:30 PM GMT
    You're stupid, but you should feel comforted knowing you're not the only stupid one in this forum. The world doesn't need anymore gay, religious, self-hating lemmings. Turn back now! It is never to late to repent.
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    Nov 19, 2009 10:32 PM GMT
    jacobsda1 said
    track_boi saidJust know that in the near future that a belief in God and Satan will be laughed upon due to it's impressive impact on modern civilization. Just as the world was proved to be round and not flat so will be God and Satan be proved to a clever delusion.



    hmmm. a delusion alright. but clever?


    to get the masses to eat that shit up for so long... clever indeed
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    Nov 19, 2009 10:35 PM GMT
    Who is God to you, and who is Satan?

    I'm curious what you know of Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva, and are any of them candidates for consideration as God or Satan.
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    Nov 19, 2009 10:36 PM GMT
    Nope, I believe. I'll take my chances as well. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 19, 2009 10:44 PM GMT
    I Believe
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    Nov 19, 2009 10:45 PM GMT
    I've always wanted to know if people know why they believe...
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    Nov 19, 2009 11:44 PM GMT
    I don't know what to believe anymore. I want to believe in God and have a religious belief to keep me grounded, but after all that shame and guilt growing up gay, I just don't know if I can open myself up to it again. I've tried several times after coming out of the closet, and every time, I just kind of can't get into it.
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    Nov 19, 2009 11:46 PM GMT
    Change your adjectives from good and evil to pleasant and unpleasant and everything will make much more sense. Everything. Like, you could be possessed by an unpleasant demon and redeemed by a pleasant exorcist and stuff like that. Like you could be having a pleasant day at the track when suddenly your horse experiences an unpleasant episode of misfortune and breaks a leg just before the finish line when you've just bet everything.
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    Nov 19, 2009 11:48 PM GMT

    ... literally, just came back from a discourse on a woman - professor of philosophy - attempting to rationalize the word evil.

    not poor writing, just absolutely superfluous. her argument circumvented itself and become a bothersome paradigm. her crux attempted to utilize milgram and zombardo's studies. I was none too inspired.
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    Nov 19, 2009 11:49 PM GMT
    GHew saidDoes anyone else on here, or am I the only allegedly deluded, stupid and(or) insane gay male?


    no, you are not the only one who believes. there are a few of us here who do- and i am one.
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    Nov 19, 2009 11:49 PM GMT
    I'd say the bitch was unpleasant, no?
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    Nov 19, 2009 11:53 PM GMT
    track_boi saidI've always wanted to know if people know why they believe...




    or more puzzling, why they don't stop believing.

    god itself isn't a problem,it's that annoying story BOOK !
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    Nov 19, 2009 11:55 PM GMT
    If you really really believe, Send $1 to at the address I sent you and all will be revealed icon_razz.gif
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    Nov 19, 2009 11:58 PM GMT
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    Nov 19, 2009 11:59 PM GMT
    I used to believe ... and see wonders ... but I was also looking for them ...

    I'm a skeptic and try to balance belief with reason ... too much of one leads to a icarus like experience. one such reason belief in christianity is so strong is because of the powerful message of hope and and undying love in theory ... but the practice of christianity in practice is to sub-divide the world into the believers and non-believers. which, strikingly, resembles the have and have-nots.

    these songs will always be powerful for me ... normative judgments notwithstanding:



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    Nov 20, 2009 12:11 AM GMT
    I'm Roman Catholic so that should sum up most of what I believe. (Waiting for the Troll Train)
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    Nov 20, 2009 12:28 AM GMT
    Tact and diplomacy are concepts so far beyond so many of you, but what else is new? Apparently some people are very threatended by the idea.
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    Nov 20, 2009 12:36 AM GMT
    Caspar the Friendly Ghost, a member of the undead. Good or evil?

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    Nov 20, 2009 12:45 AM GMT

    GHew saidI reckon I'm willing to take my chances.


    You do know that if you only believe because it might be true, you don't really believe and aren't gratifying god properly. When the time comes, he's gonna drop your ass into the lake of fire so fast, the demons won't even know you're there until you work up a good simmer and start to smell good.
    He'll do it anyway because he made you perfectly healthy, perfectly fertile and you shot your seed into dead barren places. You deprived your god of that church going christian you would have surely raised. He won't testify, your wife won't testify, and his children won't testify, their children won't testify. You stopped generations of Christians from being born, ya killed them in a sense.

    ....j/k, see how silly it sounds. For real though, the answers are all right here. THERE WILL BE A TEST SO LISTEN WELL.

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