Is it really a good idea to allow everyone to vote?

  • metta

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    Nov 24, 2009 8:11 AM GMT






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    Nov 24, 2009 12:03 PM GMT
    the alternative is worse,who will decide who votes?
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    Nov 24, 2009 12:12 PM GMT
    People should have to take a test to be able to vote. 5 questions on the ballot just to make sure you know who and what the f*ck it is you're voting for.
    If only that were feasible...
  • GQjock

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    Nov 24, 2009 12:17 PM GMT
    One name comes to mind concerning someone who was just as ill-equipped to be President and people voted for anyway

    and that name is George W Bush

    It happened once and god forbid with some of the dolts stumblin' around here in this country ... it can happen again
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    Nov 24, 2009 12:18 PM GMT
    You know whats really astounding

    Half of those dumbasses are sporting university of............ sweatshirts icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 24, 2009 12:20 PM GMT
    Are we really surprised by this? LOL Sadly Ive seen democrats just as stupid if not worse.
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    Nov 24, 2009 12:21 PM GMT
    You have to take a test to get a drivers license...Maybe you should have to take a test to prove an understanding of the issues and then get a voter registration card. Just sayin
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    Nov 24, 2009 12:23 PM GMT
    Isn't that why there's a straight party option on the ballot?
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    Nov 24, 2009 12:24 PM GMT
    and even if i contradict myself... icon_smile.gif

    god must love stupid people,he created so many of them.... icon_eek.gif
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    Nov 24, 2009 12:43 PM GMT
    Churchill used to say that democracy was the worst form of government except for all the other ones that have been tried.
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    Nov 24, 2009 12:47 PM GMT
    I used to be one of those hardcore Democrats that would say "Mark the D and let it be!" or even better..."When you're driving and you wanna go forward, you put it in D" Not anymore... not that going in REverse is any better but in some cases and in some place the Dems are just as bad if not far worse than the Republicans ever have been.
  • brskee76

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    Nov 24, 2009 12:51 PM GMT
    Ha ha guys, come down to Australia, you have no choice in the matter. It's either go get your name checked off the voter's registry and vote or get a fine. The thing is that if you force everyone to vote at least you know you get the opinion of the whole population, not vested groups who could be bothered to go to the polling booth to vote. Unfortunately the only people who seem to want to vote are those crazy, conservative fools portrayed in the video, that's why you get George W Bush's elected as President!
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    Nov 24, 2009 1:00 PM GMT
    This is why education is such an important issue in society... or one of the reasons. Democracy doesn´t work unless people are capable of at least some level of informed decision.
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    Nov 24, 2009 1:11 PM GMT
    Your topic is like saying:
    Is it really a good idea to have a fair democracy in the United States?
    So some people are really stupid. That shouldn't get in the way of their rights.
    Trying to discriminate who votes... we mind as well head back to the 19th century.
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    Nov 24, 2009 1:47 PM GMT
    yeah sux being in australia where everyone MUST vote. as long as the IR laws dont come back then i'll vote for whoever.
  • KepaArg

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    Nov 24, 2009 2:08 PM GMT
    MMMmmm...in Argentina it´s required by law for everyone to vote and I think it doesn't work well here, because the corrupt politicians use this to bribe poor people (who outnumber the middle and upper class by a landlside) with a choripan, wine, and maybe a microwave which they can't even use and some monthly allowance for their vote and to show up at government rallies to show support.

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    Nov 24, 2009 2:09 PM GMT
    BronzeChew saidPeople should have to take a test to be able to vote. 5 questions on the ballot just to make sure you know who and what the f*ck it is you're voting for.
    If only that were feasible...


    Agreed!!!
  • Webster666

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    Nov 24, 2009 3:24 PM GMT
    Great video.
    Every single one of those who were interviewed, stood their with their fingers up their noses and said, "I don't know what she stands for, I don't know what her policies are, I don't know anything about anything, but, I'd vote for her. Freaks.

    But, those freaks are not the problem.
    The problem is that not enough intelligent people get out and vote.
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    Nov 24, 2009 3:32 PM GMT
    So we have lots of dumb assess here in the good ole USof A. Don't we all know this by now?
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    Nov 24, 2009 3:51 PM GMT
    Yes it IS!!! otherwise why call it a democracy? so what if there are uneducated voters, who is to say our own knowledge of the issues that affect our nation is the same to the interest of other voters?

    The underlying problem is not so much the lack of knowledge a voter has about the issues that affect our nation, but the need each voter or interest group has to take away the rights of the competition within the social class pyramid (the wealthy, middle class, working class, and the poor) of our nation for equality! which brings me to the real question whether a government party really cares about justice, fairness, and equality for ALL?????


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  • jarhead5536

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    Nov 24, 2009 3:55 PM GMT
    Excellent, excellent question. The Founding Fathers assumed that anyone voting in free elections was going to be educated enough about the candidates and the issues to make informed decisions. We absolutely do not have an informed electorate making deliberative choices- we have popularity contests.

    I agree that you should have to demostrate your grasp of the issues before being allowed into the voting booth...
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    Nov 24, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
    jarhead5536 saidExcellent, excellent question. The Founding Fathers assumed that anyone voting in free elections was going to be educated enough about the candidates and the issues to make informed decisions. We absolutely do not have an informed electorate making deliberative choices- we have popularity contests.

    I agree that you should have to demostrate your grasp of the issues before being allowed into the voting booth...


    That sounds nice but it is hard and just as impossible to make sense of the issues when the one you are voting for cannot address nor care about your own!! what the founder fathers didn't know or just didn't want you to know is that the freedom, justice, and fairness mentioned in the constitution was really meant for the powerful interest group in our democracy; all awhile regular citizens like you and I will only be able to pick up the breadcrumbs of the freedom, justice, and fairness not before a hard day's work in the infertile fields of equality in our country. So after having said that if the voters demand a more productive government they should start by improving the quality and resistance of their own seed or seedlings, and stop blaming the soil/government for their lack of nourishments!!!


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    Nov 24, 2009 4:30 PM GMT
    in theory that is why the electoral college exists. the president isn't elected by popular vote
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    Nov 24, 2009 4:33 PM GMT
    The American Founding Fathers/Signers of the Declaration of Independence/Creators of the Constitution didn't want everyone to be able to vote. They feared the mob, and how irrational it could be, and how tyrannical it could be as well.
  • jarhead5536

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    Nov 24, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
    jackofhearts46 saidin theory that is why the electoral college exists. the president isn't elected by popular vote


    And the EC is in serious danger of being done away with. I am a strong supporter of this system since it serves as a check on populist whims, precisely as the Founders intended...