Economic policy/problems.... Whats the cause?

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    Nov 25, 2009 6:35 PM GMT
    Since the economy is such a problem now, I wanted everyone to be aware that the US spends 2 trillion a year on our 700+ bases overseas and the two wars we are overtly fighting. The US spends 280 billion a year on ALL domestic programs for individual welfare and ALL social programs (food stamps, etc, etc.)
    Corporate welfare (not including the 2 trillion spent bailing out huge banks recently by Bush and Obama) goes to 500 billion a year.
    Why is there no difference between Bush and Obama concerning foreign and economic policy? Does anyone pay attention to the fact that there is no difference between dems and repubs on key issues that affect our lives? I know everyone is hung up on social issues like gay rights, etc. But these guys are the same wall street backed crooks who are robbing us blind. Wall street gave obama 500 million for his campaign. Is there any wonder why he is their slave? Bush represented the oil industry by waging war in Iraq. He was their slave. 6 corporations are responsible for everything we read see and hear (exception is the internet). The phenomenon of "interlocking directorates" is key to why the mass media presents a unified picture with a false "left-right" dichotomy. Why allow them to frame the terms of the debate?
    Does anyone know what "false flag" terrorism is?
    WAKE UP!
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    Nov 25, 2009 8:25 PM GMT
    whiteguy4asian saidSince the economy is such a problem now, I wanted everyone to be aware that the US spends 2 trillion a year on our 700+ bases overseas and the two wars we are overtly fighting. The US spends 280 billion a year on ALL domestic programs for individual welfare and ALL social programs (food stamps, etc, etc.)
    Corporate welfare (not including the 2 trillion spent bailing out huge banks recently by Bush and Obama) goes to 500 billion a year.
    Why is there no difference between Bush and Obama concerning foreign and economic policy? Does anyone pay attention to the fact that there is no difference between dems and repubs on key issues that affect our lives? I know everyone is hung up on social issues like gay rights, etc. But these guys are the same wall street backed crooks who are robbing us blind. Wall street gave obama 500 million for his campaign. Is there any wonder why he is their slave? Bush represented the oil industry by waging war in Iraq. He was their slave. 6 corporations are responsible for everything we read see and hear (exception is the internet). The phenomenon of "interlocking directorates" is key to why the mass media presents a unified picture with a false "left-right" dichotomy. Why allow them to frame the terms of the debate?
    Does anyone know what "false flag" terrorism is?
    WAKE UP!


    Your numbers are off. Medicare expenditures alone for FY 2009 total $504.5 billion and are estimated to increase in 2010 to $510 billion. Medicaid is to spend $262.3 billion in FY 2009. Just with these two programs alone--not factoring in all the other social programs--we're already at $766.8 billion, not the $280 billion you suggested. I'm sympathetic to your concerns, but you do yourself a disservice by neither providing sources for your claims nor posting accurate numbers.
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    Nov 25, 2009 8:54 PM GMT
    Thanks for the accurate numbers on welfare. But the point is still there. We do spend 2 bil on overseas operations that have nothing to do with protecting people or "defense". In addition to nearly 50% of the national budget going to the war machine ("offense" spending).
    National defense is more accurately called "national offense"
    Why do people support obama? I dont get it. Not that I am a repub, they are the same as democrats, except on social issues, where there some difference and repubs are clearly backwards.
    But, why support obama? Why did he get a peace prize that he was nominated for after 2 months in office? Is that for shifting troops from Iraq to Afghanistan?
    Since foreign policy has such great weight on the economy,if people would spend more time understanding why foreign policy does not change no matter who is in office, people might better understand who is really pulling the strings.
    Here is a link to understanding the "power" structure in america:
    http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/
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    Nov 26, 2009 1:37 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidSome friendly advice, since you have criticized the great Obama.

    You will need to cite your sources for all those numbers you used in your post. Otherwise, you will get slaughtered by all the Obama supporters on here (which is everyone).


    must you be an ass on every occasion?
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    Nov 26, 2009 1:40 AM GMT
    whiteguy4asian saidThanks for the accurate numbers on welfare. But the point is still there. We do spend 2 bil on overseas operations that have nothing to do with protecting people or "defense". In addition to nearly 50% of the national budget going to the war machine ("offense" spending).
    National defense is more accurately called "national offense"
    Why do people support obama? I dont get it. Not that I am a repub, they are the same as democrats, except on social issues, where there some difference and repubs are clearly backwards.
    But, why support obama? Why did he get a peace prize that he was nominated for after 2 months in office? Is that for shifting troops from Iraq to Afghanistan?
    Since foreign policy has such great weight on the economy,if people would spend more time understanding why foreign policy does not change no matter who is in office, people might better understand who is really pulling the strings.
    Here is a link to understanding the "power" structure in america:
    http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/


    OY

    This reads like one of those silly arguments you had when an undergrad.

    When you think your shit doesn't stink and you have the answer to all the world's problems.
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    Nov 26, 2009 1:44 AM GMT
    Blondizgd said

    OY

    This reads like one of those silly arguments you had when an undergrad.

    When you think your shit doesn't stink and you have the answer to all the world's problems.


    And when your man boobs didn't sag. :-)
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    Nov 26, 2009 1:49 AM GMT
    TigerTim said
    Blondizgd said

    OY

    This reads like one of those silly arguments you had when an undergrad.

    When you think your shit doesn't stink and you have the answer to all the world's problems.


    And when your man boobs didn't sag. :-)


    LOL

    True that
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    Nov 26, 2009 7:05 AM GMT
    I'm someone who supports Obama, but I'm not happy with everything he's doing. I prefer him to Bush. He inherited a crisis, did not make it worse, but I don't think anyone can really get us out of the predicaments we are in right now, because the military adventures and the economy are only half the story. We are on the verge of some major changes which may worsen the economy dramatically. Resource depletion and climate change are going to force changes upon many nations.