DECEPTION, WHEN IS IT OK?

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    Nov 30, 2009 12:16 PM GMT
    Webster: To lie, ensnare, attempt to deceive, beguile or delude, attempt to expand the truth.

    Given this, can deception be positive? Is there ever a situation that deception is ok for good reasons and results?

    When I am retelling events in my life I embellish and stretch the truth from excitement of storytelling. I lied at work to cover my ass. The CEO created an environment of fault finding. He looked for problems and who to blame and embarrass in public.



  • drypin

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    Nov 30, 2009 1:10 PM GMT
    To what extent does withholding part of the truth make something a lie?

    Does a photograph which shows our better side (or most appealing body part) equate to deception when the intent is to beguile or attract? What if the unshown part is as attractive to the viewer, just not to us?

    If I smile upon arriving at work even though I'm a little sad inside, am I deceiving them, just because I don't want to share the true depth of my private feelings?

    If I'm having sex with a guy and I feel that he needs a little encouragement, so I moan a bit more loudly than would be spontaneous, would that be considered deception?
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    Nov 30, 2009 1:22 PM GMT
    it's okay to lie when the truth isn't necessary..

    Like telling a friend they've a fat arse or being an cover for a mate when the shit hits the fan and the body is found...

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    Nov 30, 2009 1:26 PM GMT
    Wagner was probably most famous for this in the music world. Was it bad? A little drawn out and kinda boring after sometime.

    Those are my thoughts. I know when someone is deceiving me, and when it happens repeatedly it's kinda boring after sometime too.

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    Nov 30, 2009 3:47 PM GMT

    Well, young man.....icon_lol.gif
  • wellwell

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    Nov 30, 2009 3:48 PM GMT
    ...it seems to work for the president(s)
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    Nov 30, 2009 4:11 PM GMT

    Just remember that you are the one your deception hurts (changes) the most. Use sparingly.

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  • Celticmusl

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    Nov 30, 2009 4:33 PM GMT
    I deceive to get laughs("your mom just called, she said to work on your skinny arms today because you look like a girl"), to get extra sex from a bf("I twisted my ankle at the gym, I guess we'll have to stay in tonight, they said I should stay in bed"), and to get extra helpings of dessert("I'm hypoglycemic, I need another piece of pie please").
  • coolarmydude

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    Nov 30, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
    deimos66329 saidWebster: To lie, ensnare, attempt to deceive, beguile or delude, attempt to expand the truth.

    Given this, can deception be positive? Is there ever a situation that deception is ok for good reasons and results?

    When I am retelling events in my life I embellish and stretch the truth from excitement of storytelling. I lied at work to cover my ass. The CEO created an environment of fault finding. He looked for problems and who to blame and embarrass in public.



    I wouldn't call that deception. I call that self-defense. A hostile environment causes people to act irrationally. It sounds like the CEO needs to be replaced.
    But the truth is that that alone could get you in trouble if the truth comes to light. Was your deception a shift of blame to another coworker? If so, you are on a lonely island.