10 TOP UNDERRATED CITIES FOR GAY MEN TO LIVE

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    Nov 30, 2009 1:00 PM GMT
    May I have the card please. Info from GayTravel.com

    10. Sacramento, Calif
    9. Pittsburg, Pa
    8. Fort Worth, Tx
    7. New Have, Conn
    6. Detroit, Mich
    5. Kansas City, Missouri
    4. Salt Lake City, Utah


    3. Providence, RI
    2. Albuquerque, NM

    And our #1 place to live is............

    1. Columburs, O HI O

    Any surprises?

  • drypin

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    Nov 30, 2009 2:29 PM GMT
    I wonder how #11 feels.

    I recall once in high school my GPA caused me to slip to #11 in the class ranking. Only the top 10 got any credit (though I'm not so sure what's magical about the number 10, considering we haven't even bothered to adopt the metric system, but that's a topic for another forum.)

    My name sort of disappeared from the charts and I thought, hmmm. Does that 0.005 difference mean #10 is newsworthy and I am not? I spoke to Joel, the previous holder of the not so precious #11 spot and now in the, and I use this term loosely, coveted #10 position, who assured me he didn't give a rat's a** either way, but still I was left wondering.

    Will we ever know what the 11th most underrated city for gay men to live in is? And how would those denizens of that underrated city feel if they knew?
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    deimos66329 saidMay I have the card please. Info from GayTravel.com

    10. Sacramento, Calif
    9. Pittsburg, Pa
    8. Fort Worth, Tx
    7. New Have, Conn
    6. Detroit, Mich
    5. Kansas City, Missouri
    4. Salt Lake City, Utah
    3. Providence, RI
    2. Albuquerque, NM

    And our #1 place to live is............

    1. Columburs, O HI O

    Any surprises?

    They're all surprises to me. Good friends of mine live in Albuquerque, and they tell me it's dead dull for gays there, and not very friendly, either. I've been to all the other places myself, and fail to see why they rate. And being gay in Salt Lake City doesn't seem like it would be a lot of fun. icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 30, 2009 2:41 PM GMT
    deimos66329 said9. Pittsburg, Pa


    The American version of Queer as Folk took place in Pittsburgh, so it is a lot of fun, right?

    Pittsburgh also looks exactly like Toronto. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 30, 2009 2:45 PM GMT
    I agree about Albuquerque. Lived there a few years ago and hated it. A few years later my (also gay) brother moved there, hated it and moved away.
  • rnch

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    Nov 30, 2009 2:51 PM GMT
    here in new orleans, there is a gay-friendly neighborhood, full of open minded, accepting people who accept you no matter what your sexual orientation is. gay, bi, lesbian, transgender, str8...we all co-exist here side by side. seeing 2 guys kissing on the streets, in daylight, is no big deal here!

    it features tasty, affordable restaurants, numerous coffee shops, top notch live music, gay friendly bars, historic old housing dating from the 1860's to 1940's that is quite affordable by national standards.

    unlike much of the city, this area did NOT flood during hurricane katrina.

    no, this area is NOT the world famous French Quarter.

    directly adjacent to the quarter is the first "suburb" of the city of new orleans, called marigny-bywater.

    it features the same style of housing that makes the quarter so charming and is withing walking distance of the quarter. many peeps that work in the quarter live in this area.

    you guys should check it out! it's a well kept secret!
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Nov 30, 2009 2:58 PM GMT
    The whole list seems off for some reason. What was the criteria that the list was based on other that that they are "underrated"? I mean, come on, nothing against Columbus Ohio but it hardly seems like a gay mecca. San Diego and Seattle would seem the obvious that are missing.
  • Marshi

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    Nov 30, 2009 3:01 PM GMT
    rnch saidhere in new orleans, there is a gay-friendly neighborhood, full of open minded, accepting people who accept you no matter what your sexual orientation is. gay, bi, lesbian, transgender, str8...we all co-exist here side by side. seeing 2 guys kissing on the streets, in daylight, is no big deal here!

    it features tasty, affordable restaurants, numerous coffee shops, top notch live music, gay friendly bars, historic old housing dating from the 1860's to 1940's that is quite affordable by national standards.

    unlike much of the city, this area did NOT flood during hurricane katrina.

    no, this area is NOT the world famous French Quarter.

    directly adjacent to the quarter is the first "suburb" of the city of new orleans, called marigny-bywater.

    it features the same style of housing that makes the quarter so charming and is withing walking distance of the quarter. many peeps that work in the quarter live in this area.

    you guys should check it out! it's a well kept secret!


    i'd love to check that out icon_razz.gif the only time i've been to n'awlins was when i was around 10 years old lol
  • Celticmusl

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    Nov 30, 2009 3:02 PM GMT
    Not sure about this at all. I don't think any city in ohio should be on this list. Of course we cannot marry in ohio, and we can still be fired for being gay since we are not protected by any state discrimination laws.

    I like Columbus, it's a fun city to visit. The economy there is the best in the state(mostly because of the government presence since it's the state capital), but Ohio's economy sucks. I've dated a few guys from Columbus since it's only about an hour and a half away, but they all complained about how Columbus men are so jaded and just out to score. I wouldn't mind moving there and actually a lot of my gay friends have recently, because of their company moving operations to the columbus area. But if I had a choice, I would move to a state where gay rights are protected.
  • drypin

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    Nov 30, 2009 3:04 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThe whole list seems off for some reason. What was the criteria that the list was based on other that that they are "underrated"? I mean, come on, nothing against Columbus Ohio but it hardly seems like a gay mecca. San Diego and Seattle would seem the obvious that are missing.


    Well, the cities are supposed to be underrated. I'm not sure anyone underrates San Diego or Seattle. They are both viewed as great cities with thriving scenes. Columbus, on the other hand... icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Celticmusl

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    Nov 30, 2009 3:15 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThe whole list seems off for some reason. What was the criteria that the list was based on other that that they are "underrated"? I mean, come on, nothing against Columbus Ohio but it hardly seems like a gay mecca. San Diego and Seattle would seem the obvious that are missing.


    I agree, there are some really backwards people in columbus ohio. It is surrounded by farm country, and kentucky! You can open up the menu at even the best establishments and still you get that sense that they are catering to people that like grease, meat, and calories. I have a hard time finding someplace to eat since I'm a vegetarian. I never have that problem in Cleveland.

    I feel far more comfortable in Lakewood Ohio, which is in the cleveland area, than anywhere in columbus. Lakewood has the most percentage of gays per capita in the tri state area. In Lakewood most local stores have some kind of rainbow hanging out of their establishment. You go into a coffee house or restaurant and most of the people are gay, with maybe a few very accepting straight couples. Honestly, if you tell someone you live in Lakewood, around here, you're outing yourself.

    In the gay hotspots of columbus, yes it is trendy, but I don't feel like it is a gay 'hood.
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    Nov 30, 2009 3:21 PM GMT
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    deimos66329 said9. Pittsburg, Pa


    The American version of Queer as Folk took place in Pittsburgh, so it is a lot of fun, right?

    Pittsburgh also looks exactly like Toronto. icon_biggrin.gif



    omg, u take that back. haha, pittsburgh has NOTHING on toronto.

    excuse the rant.
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    Nov 30, 2009 3:31 PM GMT
    #6 Detroit might have a lot of gay organizations, groups, bars and clubs, and retail stores as well as two suburbs next to each other (Ferndale and Royal Oak) with a large gay population. The problem is, you are probably not going to enjoy any of it if you can't find a job. My partner and I live in Royal Oak and both have jobs, but are still looking to move. I hate to say it, but Detroit seems like a city without a future.
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    Nov 30, 2009 3:34 PM GMT
    whosyourpaddy said
    MunchingZombie said
    deimos66329 said9. Pittsburg, Pa


    The American version of Queer as Folk took place in Pittsburgh, so it is a lot of fun, right?

    Pittsburgh also looks exactly like Toronto. icon_biggrin.gif



    omg, u take that back. haha, pittsburgh has NOTHING on toronto.

    excuse the rant.


    Lol, Pittsburgh is a fun city. Every time I've visited I've had fun and most of the people seem friendly.
  • MichVBPlayer2...

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    Nov 30, 2009 4:05 PM GMT
    heartrobb said#6 Detroit might have a lot of gay organizations, groups, bars and clubs, and retail stores as well as two suburbs next to each other (Ferndale and Royal Oak) with a large gay population. The problem is, you are probably not going to enjoy any of it if you can't find a job. My partner and I live in Royal Oak and both have jobs, but are still looking to move. I hate to say it, but Detroit seems like a city without a future.


    Very true. I would also say you need a car. Everything is super far away. Without public transportation, travel is difficult. Also, the gay bars are spread all over the city. The closest thing we have to a "gay neighborhood" is the city of Ferndale, which is on the northern border of Detroit.
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    Nov 30, 2009 4:09 PM GMT
    I'm also surprised that Albuquerque made the list. I am living and working in Taos, NM- 2 hours north of Alburquerque and it seems like everyone around here is in the closet. I dunno.

    Anybody know where the proud and loud gay scene is in NM?


    Joe
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    heartrobb said#6 Detroit might have a lot of gay organizations, groups, bars and clubs, and retail stores as well as two suburbs next to each other (Ferndale and Royal Oak) with a large gay population. The problem is, you are probably not going to enjoy any of it if you can't find a job. My partner and I live in Royal Oak and both have jobs, but are still looking to move. I hate to say it, but Detroit seems like a city without a future.


    Very true. I would also say you need a car. Everything is super far away. Without public transportation, travel is difficult. Also, the gay bars are spread all over the city. The closest thing we have to a "gay neighborhood" is the city of Ferndale, which is on the northern border of Detroit.


    In Ferndale gay men did what they are the best at- restored a bunch of old homes that were in disrepair and reintroduced landscaping. They've made the area a desirable place to live in a small city that was once falling apart. Without gay men and lesbians, Ferndale would pretty much still be like Hazel Park to its east- old and worn.
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    Nov 30, 2009 4:55 PM GMT
    I've known about KC for some time. I've got an insane amount of friends that live down there, and I only ever hear how great it is.

    The rest really aren't all that shocking, SLC being the exception.
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    Nov 30, 2009 5:00 PM GMT
    Detroit...AHAHAHAHA JOKE! Like what was said above, there are a few areas, such as Royal Oak and Ferndale that are incredibly nice. Other than that...want to go to a gay bar!?! Drive to the hood! That's where 95% of them are!
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    Nov 30, 2009 5:16 PM GMT
    joecoolnv saidI'm also surprised that Albuquerque made the list. I am living and working in Taos, NM- 2 hours north of Alburquerque and it seems like everyone around here is in the closet. I dunno.
    Anybody know where the proud and loud gay scene is in NM?
    Joe


    It doesn't seem to be in Santa Fe. SF has lots of interesting gay people, a terrific arts and music scene worthy of a large metropolis, and a new-agey vibe. But there's no specifically gay place to go.
  • JP85257

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    Nov 30, 2009 5:26 PM GMT
    darryaz saidI agree about Albuquerque. Lived there a few years ago and hated it. A few years later my (also gay) brother moved there, hated it and moved away.

    I hated Albuquerque. I lived there when I was a kid. I liked living in Ft Worth tho. It was always fun.
  • KepaArg

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    Nov 30, 2009 5:33 PM GMT
    Not familiar with any of the listed cities, but if it´s not Hawaii, San Diego, San Fran, Portland, Seattle, or New York...mmm maybe Boston I have no real interest in visiting.
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    Nov 30, 2009 5:38 PM GMT
    Some of those cities surprised me...even though they are underrated...but was just wondering where did Honolulu, Hawaii & Las Vegas, NV place?
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    Nov 30, 2009 5:39 PM GMT
    Having live in Columbus I can understand it’s listing.

    The gays are totally responsible for the gentrification.

    The largest employer THE Ohio State University is gay friendly, offering same sex partnership benefits.

    I don’t understand Salt Lake City. What is going on there?
  • maverik

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    Nov 30, 2009 5:41 PM GMT
    BEST GAY CITY ON THE GLOBE

    How about an international version of this list (and btw where is Chicago!!). Based on my travels and therefore totally rose-tinted:

    Barcelona
    Cape Town
    Sydney
    Amsterdam
    Berlin
    London
    Copenhagen
    Mykonos
    Tel Aviv
    Toronto
    *Seminyaks (Bali) gets a special mention since its not techically a city - just a paradise - and probably the perfect place for gay retirement.