Shameful New York 8

  • metta

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    Dec 04, 2009 2:36 AM GMT
    All of you New Yorkers out there....

    DO NOT VOTE FOR THESE ASSHOLES

    DO NOT GIVE THEM MONEY

    http://declarationofcivilequality.blogspot.com/2009/12/personae-non-gratae.html

    THE SHAMEFUL 8,

    NEW YORK DEMOCRATIC SENATORS WHO VOTED AGAINST MARRIAGE EQUALITY IN NEW YORK STATE!

    "The fight for justice is always long and hard, and while this vote was of course extremely disappointing, we now know with certainty who our friends are and who our enemies are. And, trust me, we won't forget it at election time. It's really a terrible shame that many of our legislators could not bring themselves to support a simple matter of fairness and equality, and have betrayed the majority of New Yorkers who believe same-sex marriage should be legalized." Cynthia Nixon


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    Darrel Aubertine, D-Cape Vincent,
    aubertin@senate.state.ny.us
    received gay money, who voted Nay on equality

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    Joseph Addabbo, D-Queens,
    addabbo@senate.state.ny.us

    Elected last fall in a cycle that saw gay advocates pour more than $1 million into the Democrats' coffers
    One of the prime recipients of support from the Democratic State Senate Campaign Committee, to which the L.G.B.T. community made significant contributions. Addabbo also secured the maximum donation allowed –– $9,500 –– from software entrepreneur Tim Gill, founder of influential gay philanthropic and political action organizations.
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Senator-Joe-Addabbo/157310354545?ref=search&sid=567176665.3736433734..1 Facebook

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    [CENTER]Ruben Diaz Sr., D-Bronx,
    diaz@senate.state.ny.us
    "Ruben Diaz Sr. is being "a little bit of a bully" by demanding that Democrats swear to him in writing that they won't try to pass a gay-marriage bill. Earlier this week, Diaz said [url]http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/11/anti-gay_state_senator_chooses.html"]he wouldn't caucus with them if they didn't[/url]"



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    Shirley Huntley, D-Queens,
    shuntley@senate.state.ny.us

    "If they gave me a million dollars, tax free, I just wouldn't vote for it." First of all...who said anything about money? you don't vote for things based on how much money it will make you...or does she?"
    http://www.facebook.com/people/Shirley-L-Huntley/1210706953 Facebook

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    Carl Kruger, D-Brooklyn,
    kruger@senate.state.ny.us

    "A distinction to be proud of? We think not. Sheepshead Bay’s 'one of' two state senators – Carl Kruger (D) and Marty Golden (R) – remain the only Brooklyn-area representatives standing against gay marriage in New York"

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    Hiram Monserrate, D-Queens,
    monserra@senate.state.ny.us

    "Mr. Monserrate was too cowardly to speak on the senate floor about marriage equality, and instead chose to cast his “no” vote without explanation." Lets just look at this criminal's history.

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    [CENTER]George Onorato, D-Queens,
    onorato@senate.state.ny.us

    "Democratic New York State Senator George Onorato apparently refuses to see his constituents on the issue of marriage equality. "unlikely to support the bill, regardless of how many people try to persuade him. 'They can have all the other privileges, but not marriage,' he said."
    http://twitter.com/SenOnorato Twitter

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    [CENTER]William Stachowski, D-Buffalo,
    stachows@senate.state.ny.us

    “My position all along is if we can find a way to get people civil rights, I can do that. But to vote for [gay] marriage, I can’t do that.”

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Senator-William-T-Stachowski/98309792160 Facebook





  • metta

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    Dec 04, 2009 5:07 AM GMT
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    Action Alert! NY Senator Joseph Addabbo received significant financial contributions from the LGBT community when running for office. He has since run away from his supporters with a NO vote on marriage equality in New York.

    Tomorrow he will be on the Brian Lehrer show that starts at 10:00 a.m. The call-in number is 212-433-9692. Let's bombard the lines with calls to Senator Addabbo and ask how he felt waking up the next morning after he cowardly voted down marriage equality. How did he feel after accepting so much of our support and money and then backstabbed us with his NO vote?

    Let's make him explain it live "on air" on this very popular NYC radio show. We need to hold him accountable
  • metta

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    Dec 04, 2009 5:08 AM GMT
    Don't allow them to weasel themselves out of this either.
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    Dec 04, 2009 5:50 PM GMT
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 04, 2009 5:54 PM GMT
    Shocker!!! Democrats voting against marriage equality? I thought only those gay hating Republicans did that? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 04, 2009 6:05 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidShocker!!! Democrats voting against marriage equality? I thought only those gay hating Republicans did that? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Sadly some dems think like repubs.
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  • metta

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    Dec 04, 2009 6:18 PM GMT

    From The Daily Show:

    http://straighttalkonmarriage.blogspot.com/2009/12/gaywatch-meredith-baxter-new-york.html
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    Dec 04, 2009 6:19 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    CuriousJockAZ saidShocker!!! Democrats voting against marriage equality? I thought only those gay hating Republicans did that? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Sadly some dems think like repubs.
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    Whats worse is when Repubs think like Dems.
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    Dec 04, 2009 6:20 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidShocker!!! Democrats voting against marriage equality? I thought only those gay hating Republicans did that? icon_rolleyes.gif


    I am curious of those that DID vote for gay-marraige how many were Republican compared to Democrat?
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    Dec 04, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
    phemt said
    CuriousJockAZ saidShocker!!! Democrats voting against marriage equality? I thought only those gay hating Republicans did that? icon_rolleyes.gif


    I am curious of those that DID vote for gay-marraige how many were Republican compared to Democrat?


    Not sure if your question is rhetorical or not but:

    All republicans voted against
    And 8 democrats sided with them

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    Dec 04, 2009 6:34 PM GMT
    Blackguy4you said
    phemt said
    CuriousJockAZ saidShocker!!! Democrats voting against marriage equality? I thought only those gay hating Republicans did that? icon_rolleyes.gif


    I am curious of those that DID vote for gay-marraige how many were Republican compared to Democrat?


    Not sure if your question is rhetorical or not but:

    All republicans voted against
    And 8 democrats sided with them



    Thanks Blackguy4you. I was just looking it up.

    No Republican support and a majority of Democratic support - now THAT ISN'T A SHOCKER!
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    Dec 04, 2009 6:35 PM GMT
    Thank you Metta8 for doing your homework and posting this list. It will come in handy. I plan to contact those individuals and tell them I won't support them, and will work to get them un-elected until they change their positions on marriage equity.

    More importantly, NYS Senator Diane Savino's speach prompted me to contact her office, get put on her mailing list, and volunteer my time to help keep her in office.

    Thanks again.
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    Dec 04, 2009 6:37 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidShocker!!! Democrats voting against marriage equality? I thought only those gay hating Republicans did that? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Unlike gay Republicans, gay Democrats actually hold their candidates responsible for supporting anti-gay legislation and for not supporting civil rights for gay people. If a Republican candidate proposed legislation that would make homosexuality criminal and punishable by jail time again, Log Cabin Republicans would worship him as long as he was pro war and against taxes and health care reform.
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    Dec 04, 2009 6:39 PM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite said
    CuriousJockAZ saidShocker!!! Democrats voting against marriage equality? I thought only those gay hating Republicans did that? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Unlike gay Republicans, gay Democrats actually hold their candidates responsible for ant-gay legislation. If a Republican candidate proposed legislation that would make homosexuality criminal and punishable by jail time again, Log Cabin Republicans would worship him as long as he was pro war and against taxes and health care reform.


    Maybe Log Cabin Republicans should change their name to "Gay Uncle Tom's"? What do you think?
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    Dec 04, 2009 7:18 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidShocker!!! Democrats voting against marriage equality? I thought only those gay hating Republicans did that? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Wrong.....any politician of either party has voted for or against marriage equity. But apart from the useless rhetoric about political parties and your apparent sarcastic glee you expressed, what have YOU done to support marriage equity? Have you contacted any of your elected officials? Have you contacted any elected official in any state where this issue is eing debated? It doesn't matter if they are republican or democrat.

    Have you done anything? This thread was started with a call to poltical action, not silly name calling about dem vs republican.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 04, 2009 7:44 PM GMT
    KissingPro said
    CuriousJockAZ saidShocker!!! Democrats voting against marriage equality? I thought only those gay hating Republicans did that? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Wrong.....any politician of either party has voted for or against marriage equity. But apart from the useless rhetoric about political parties and your apparent sarcastic glee you expressed, what have YOU done to support marriage equity? Have you contacted any of your elected officials? It doesn't matter if they are republican or democrat.

    Have you?



    No sarcastic glee at all. Merely making the point that it's not only Republicans who are voting against this. Granted, it's mostly Republicans, but it's not like dems are ALL supporting this cause.

    As for me contacting any of our elected officials...Sorry, but being gay does not mean that I am required to do any such thing. I have said many times that "Gay Marriage" is not an issue that is really all that important to me either way personally and, like it or not, I have the right to have my own personal issues that are important in my own life. Being gay does not require me, or any other gay person, to be an activist about anything. That is not to say in any way that I am not all for "Marriage Equality" because I know it is important to many of you. If it's important to you, fine, call your congressman, march on Washington, whatever, but I am not going to apologize for the simple fact that it's simply not an issue that is all that important to me personally.

    Now, just give me a sec while I put on my tomato repelling parka
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    Dec 04, 2009 7:47 PM GMT
    That's a myopic take on the issue(s), curious, because while marriage equality may be the specific issue in this case, the real, overwhelming issue is that the country you live in and pay heaps of taxes to do so, denies you the same rights that others are paying for and getting. It's so convenient for you that this particular angle on it doesn't affect you personally, otherwise you might actually have get off the internet as a gay man to stand up for yourself.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 04, 2009 7:51 PM GMT
    GodAlmighty saidThat's a myopic take on the issue(s), curious, because while marriage equality may be the specific issue in this case, the real, overwhelming issue is that the country you live in and pay heaps of taxes to do so, denies you the same rights that others are paying for and getting. It's so convenient for you that this particular angle on it doesn't affect you personally, otherwise you might actually have get off the internet as a gay man to stand up for yourself.



    I'm standing up for myself right here by stating that if you want to talk "rights", I have the right to pick and choose what issues are important to me personally. Just because any particular issue is important to some, does not mean it has to be important to all.
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    Dec 04, 2009 7:53 PM GMT
    When I formed you in the womb, I designed you so you'd never get it. It makes the bright ones shine so much brighter.

    You are telling us that people denying you rights doesn't bother you. How often do you get your wool sheared?

    I remember as a kid, when my brothers and I would get in trouble, mom would make us put our pajamas on before dad got home. That was his cue that we'd been bad. When he'd come in the door, he'd say "uh oh, who did what?" and we'd reply "oh, no, everything's ok, we just wanted to put on our pajamas early".
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    Dec 04, 2009 7:56 PM GMT
    Kinda a waste of time discussing gay rights with a Gay Republican. If it dosn't affect their pocket book they really don't care.
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    Dec 04, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
    It certainly does affect their pocket books. Only the comatose can't see that.

    curious - you're absolutely right. Being gay doesn't require you to do anything at all. Being pushed around requires you to stand up for yourself. Denying that you're being pushed around is cowardly.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 04, 2009 8:02 PM GMT
    GodAlmighty saidWhen I formed you in the womb, I designed you so you'd never get it. It makes the bright ones shine so much brighter.

    You are telling us that people denying you rights doesn't bother you. How often do you get your wool sheared?



    Hey, I'm denied the right to smoke pot while sitting on the street corner, but since I don't smoke pot I couldn't care less about that either. Some of my best friends smoke pot regularly and passionately feel it should be legalized. Does that mean I need to march on Washington for the legalization of pot? I'm certainly not going to equate "smoking pot" with "gay marriage", but merely making the point that my being denied the right to marry another man does not personally bother me since I have no interest whatsoever in ever doing so. Now, sorry, God, if you don't "get it" but that's just the way it is from my perspective, and I know many MANY gays who feel similar in that "Gay Marriage" is a non-issue in their own lives. Not all gay people have the same passion for certain issues as perhaps you and others do, and I don't think they should have to apologize for that.

    As for feeling "pushed around", I don't feel pushed around. See, that's the "victim" mentality that you like to get on your soapbox and operate from. This is yet another example of the utter hypocrisy that permeates so many of the threads on this issue. You all will fight to the death for inclusion, and acceptance, blah blah blah, but God forbid anyone doesn't fall in lockstep with your own line of thinking -- out comes the name calling and insults.
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    Dec 04, 2009 8:03 PM GMT
    Everybody is equally denied the right to smoke pot. Try again. See if you can squeeze some of your internet courage into your response.
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    Dec 04, 2009 8:14 PM GMT
    I remember the thread we started praising the Republicans in the Assembly who voted for this bill....

    Oh wait, that's right. We like to cherry pick our criticism. Even Metta's thread about 8 Dems who suck and suck hard is turning into LOLRepublicanz.

    It would be more useful to not think of this as Dems versus Republicans but as Good Politicians versus Asshats.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 04, 2009 8:16 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie said
    It would be more useful to not think of this as Dems versus Republicans but as Good Politicians versus Asshats.


    I agree