McDonalds 4 year old Hamburger....

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    Dec 05, 2009 2:21 PM GMT
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    Dec 05, 2009 5:15 PM GMT
    As much as you whine about how awful it is that food that McDonalds doesn't spoil as fast as other so called 'real' food


    It's simple science...

    Salt has been used to preserve food for centuries, if you salted a piece of fresh from the cow beef and kept it in a dry place it would be similarly edible after 4 years.


    There's nothing artificial about it....
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    Dec 05, 2009 5:20 PM GMT
    I'm horrified.
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    Dec 05, 2009 5:36 PM GMT
    MsclDrew saidAs much as you whine about how awful it is that food that McDonalds doesn't spoil as fast as other so called 'real' food


    It's simple science...

    Salt has been used to preserve food for centuries, if you salted a piece of fresh from the cow beef and kept it in a dry place it would be similarly edible after 4 years.


    There's nothing artificial about it....


    oh Drew, again with stating a reasonable explanation for something. I think youre on the wrong site. Levelheadedness is not rewarded here icon_eek.gif
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    Dec 05, 2009 5:55 PM GMT
    The amount of salt required to preserve food is a LOT. The amount used for flavoring isn't anywhere near enough. For example, you have to soak salted cod in fresh water for at least a day to make it somewhat edible again.

    Assuming that the video isn't faked, the explanation would most likely be that the fried foods were sterile and packed in sterile wrappings. Autolysing enzymes would have been inactivated. The lowered water content at the surface (from oils and, yes, salt) would make it difficult for the occasional airborne bacterium to colonize, during the brief moments that the items are on display.
  • Tiran

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    Dec 05, 2009 5:58 PM GMT
    And you are only partially right Mscldrew.

    Meat can be preserved with salt. But it takes a lot more salt than what is in a mcdonalds burger (which has a lot more salt than you should eat in a serving, but that is a seperate issue). When preserving meat with salt you cover the whole thing with a layer of salt, a visible layer. And for longer preservation after you have done this, you store it in jars or barrels packed in tight and covered with brine. And when you use it, you have to soak a lot of the salt out of it before you cook it, and you will still not need to add salt to the dish.

    The oil as well as the salt in the fries may help preserve it as well, although it would go rancid, and rancid oil has a distinct smell.

    If she is based out of Arizona or somewhere similarly dry where the desication process can happen quickly, it could be almost mummified.

    But however it happened, the fact that it did not go mouldy in the first week or so is very telling.
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    Dec 05, 2009 6:00 PM GMT
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    MsclDrew saidAs much as you whine about how awful it is that food that McDonalds doesn't spoil as fast as other so called 'real' food


    It's simple science...

    Salt has been used to preserve food for centuries, if you salted a piece of fresh from the cow beef and kept it in a dry place it would be similarly edible after 4 years.


    There's nothing artificial about it....


    oh Drew, again with stating a reasonable explanation for something. I think youre on the wrong site. Levelheadedness is not rewarded here icon_eek.gif


    Yeah but but I just keep trying....

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    Dec 05, 2009 6:49 PM GMT

    I like her gimmick...it might be a little bit of a stretch....maybe. Doesn't matter, I've always said that about fast food. I always said, "Is it real or is it Memorex." I can't stand the stuff. I guess that's all that matters.

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    Dec 05, 2009 6:49 PM GMT
    I saw Food Inc yesterday and now this! Gross and very scary, I'll never eat fast food again!
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    Dec 05, 2009 7:10 PM GMT
    "It's aging better than me"... and your botox face sweety.
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    Dec 05, 2009 7:15 PM GMT
    I'm cravin me some 1/4lbr bout now...
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    Dec 05, 2009 7:51 PM GMT
    like the movie supersize me, this just makes me want to head to mcdonalds and order the #1 combo meal. I HEART YOU BIG MAC, FRIES AND LEMONADE!!!
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    Dec 05, 2009 8:05 PM GMT
    The diet lady needs to take off some pounds herself. Or else she has a tiny waist we can't see and enormous boobs that should have their own zip code.
  • Halcyonz

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    Dec 05, 2009 8:29 PM GMT
    Sparkycat saidThe diet lady needs to take off some pounds herself. Or else she has a tiny waist we can't see and enormous boobs that should have their own zip code.


    I was gonna say. . . Didn't anyone notice this lady is writing books on how to diet. . . but obviously not following her own advice, if it is even good advice! Yuk.

    "I used to eat at McDonalds when I was overweight. . . " Hmm. . . maybe she is thinking she is now the average American statistic and her weight is perfect!
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    Dec 06, 2009 3:25 AM GMT
    Here's a burger that can last for several years. icon_lol.gif

    http://www.avclub.com/articles/taste-test-cheeseburger-in-a-can,2183/
  • drypin

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    Dec 06, 2009 9:10 AM GMT
    Sparkycat saidThe diet lady needs to take off some pounds herself. Or else she has a tiny waist we can't see and enormous boobs that should have their own zip code.


    Actually, I had the impression that she was once probably much bigger and is now at a manageable size. Let's not forget that we're all on a journey.
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    Dec 06, 2009 10:47 AM GMT
    I've always hated McDonalds. Even as a kid I'd refuse to eat there, lol. Glad for that now icon_smile.gif
  • ATLANTIS7

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    Dec 06, 2009 11:07 AM GMT
    Must have been the one i left there 4 years ago and have not been since?
  • MikemikeMike

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    Dec 06, 2009 7:11 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidThe three main ingredients you want to avoid that are most commonly added include: artificial sweeteners (such as aspartame and/or sucralose), MSG, and Trans fat (partially hydrogenated oils). Any foods that come with artificial sweeteners, MSG and hydrogenated oils are not real foods.

    The last time I went to McDonalds was six years ago. I am so glad I am done with that foods. I stop eating at Arbys, McDonalds, Taco Bell, Dell Taco, Burger King (was my first dirty job), KFC, El Pollo Loco, Domino's Pizza, Pizza Hut, Red Robin, Wendy's, and Taco del Mar are all bad fast food restaurants.

    Good fast food restaurants: Jason's Deli, Pei Wei, Panda Express, Subway, and Peter Piper Pizza....


    I disagree with subway-they use a very low grade cold cut. I went on a tour of Thumanns meat packing plant in NJ to see how hot dogs and deli meats are made. There are different grades of cold cuts. I don't eat deli meats because of the way they are made. They are known to lodge in the large intestine and not break down easily. subway uses a very low grade ham, turkey and roast beef.

    All those places are not considered real food to me!
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    Dec 06, 2009 7:13 PM GMT
    I am skeptical about whether or not those are really 4-year old foods... but I also wouldn't be surprised if it was proven somehow to indeed be 4 years old.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Dec 07, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
    No we don't have peter piper or that deli, but I live 10 mins from NYC and Italian food and deli food salumarias are about the best in the world here.

    In that video I thought the big lady was gonna eat it!!??!!
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    Dec 08, 2009 4:50 AM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    I like her gimmick...it might be a little bit of a stretch....maybe. Doesn't matter, I've always said that about fast food. I always said, "Is it real or is it Memorex." I can't stand the stuff. I guess that's all that matters.

    wow



    that's an eye opener for sure.

    I mean i know fast food is bad for you but that shit is just crazy.
  • drypin

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    Dec 08, 2009 2:42 PM GMT
    I did have to laugh about her argument that it doesn't break down, though. As if the cheeseburger is actually stored in the fat cells in its original form. What would happen if the cheeseburger were exposed to stomach acid?