Cremated or Buried?

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    Dec 06, 2009 2:16 PM GMT
    Do you want to be cremated or buried? What are the advantages of both you think?

    Sometimes I think I want to be buried so my kids and family will have a place to come to where they can "see" me or whatever. Mainly for their sake I guess. I will probably ask them soon what they would prefer I do.

    Cremation is definitely cheaper and alot more people seem to be doing that now. It almost seems a shame to pay all that money for a casket, embalming and etc just to throw a dead body in the ground, I don't know.

    I know I like going to my grandparents grave, but they have been dead for 5 or 6 years now and I have been maybe 3 times and stay for about 5 minutes; so I am not sure if that validates paying for a burial or not, haha.

    How do you feel about it?
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:14 PM GMT
    The idea of spending thousands upon thousands of dollars on a box doesn't sit right with me, I just find it selfish. I'd like to be shot into space or be donated to science, haven't decided yet. Cremation saves real estate and money. If your ashes are placed in an urn, your family has something tangible by which to remember you.
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:15 PM GMT
    Buried ass up...so all you mofo's can kiss my ass for eternity!
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:19 PM GMT
    cremation and burial. you only need a small box and burial spot then, not such a big one. icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:25 PM GMT
    Burn me!
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:26 PM GMT
    I would like to be cremated.
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:26 PM GMT
    Buried definitely. I for one do not believe in cremation for personal reasons.

    I was an administrative assistant and front office manager for a funeral home for 3 years, and worked in a local funeral home part time a few years back, assisting with calling hours and services. The funeral home I worked full time for specialized in cremation.

    The modern misconception is that cremation is so much cheaper than burial, and it isn't. Even with embalming, a direct burial is only about $175 more (in most cases) than cremation. Spending thousands of dollars on a casket is not necessary at all. Most cemeteries require use of a burial vault, the most effective of which are (ironically) among the least expensive. The vault does more protecting of the body than the casket. With cremation, you have to purchase an urn, and if you have visitation hours and a full service, you don't save much at all.

    As to final disposition, with cremation, you can opt for scattering, which is cheaper than burial, or you can opt for your family having to keep you around. Most people end up choosing either inurnment (burial of the urn inside of an urn vault) or placement in a columbarium niche of a mausoleum - both of which carry similar, if not identical and sometimes higher charges than traditional burial.

    It comes down to a matter of personal preference.



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    Dec 06, 2009 4:27 PM GMT
    Cremated as these play very loudly

    maybe start the whole thing off with this,



    Then this



    Finish with this: I´m going out with a bang




    (and if you get why then I love you)
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:30 PM GMT
    I was bound for my family's mausoleum until I learned of Green Burials. Both my partner and I have already made arrangements to be Green buried next to one another.
    Cheers,
    Keith
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    NB- For those of you whom do not know what a Green Burial is, it's a natural environmentally sustainable alternative to existing funeral practices where the body is returned to the earth to decompose naturally and be recycled into new life.

    The body is prepared for burial without chemical preservatives and is buried in a simple shroud or biodegradable casket that can be decorated with good-bye messages from friends.

    Planting native trees, shrubs and flowers on or near the grave establishes a living memorial and helps form a protected wildlife preserve.
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
    I will have to say cremated. Why keep a piece of land for myself after being dead, when it can be used for something better than my dead body.
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:45 PM GMT
    my organs donated, if they are any good.
    cremated. what's the point of taking up all that space?
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:49 PM GMT
    I think cremated, but something about being reduced to ashes creeps me out a bit. I remember when my dad was cremated and my mom, brother and I had to spread his ashes, at his request, near the graves of my deceased sister, twin brothers, and grandparents, and to this day that experience sort of haunts me. A whole man's life reduced to some ashes in an urn.
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:56 PM GMT

    My father was cremated and we spread his ashes over the ocean near where he was born. I've found it comforting to know that his remains are out there mixed up with all the other stuff in the ocean, with maybe a grain or two making up part of any beach I ever walk on. My will asks for the same - after any transplantable tissue or organs are removed.
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    Dec 06, 2009 4:59 PM GMT
    cremated
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    Dec 06, 2009 5:00 PM GMT
    I'm identified as an organ donor, and cremation is specified in my final instructions. But frankly I really don't care, and less so when I'm gone, but I wanted to make it easy for others to know what to do about me.

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    Dec 06, 2009 5:01 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidCremated as these play very loudly

    maybe start the whole thing off with this,



    Then this



    Finish with this: I´m going out with a bang




    (and if you get why then I love you)



    Of course I get why, Lostboy!

    I want to be cremated and scattered from a designated rock in the Sangre de Cristo mountains above Santa Fe NM. It's the most beautiful place I know and that way I can re-enter the local food chain.
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    Dec 06, 2009 5:21 PM GMT
    It's either reduced to ashes in an urn, or reduced to dirt in the ground. What really matters is how people remember you when you're gone.
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    Dec 06, 2009 5:39 PM GMT
    Cremate me! Don't use up any wood or satin for a coffin, and don't use up good land for a burial plot. You want to talk to me after I am gone, don't go to where you left me... speak to me with your heart 'cuz that's where I will truly live on after my days are done.
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    Dec 06, 2009 6:19 PM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    SAHEM62896 saidCremate me! Don't use up any wood or satin for a coffin, and don't use up good land for a burial plot. You want to talk to me after I am gone, don't go to where you left me... speak to me with your heart 'cuz that's where I will truly live on after my days are done.

    Adam,,, that was beautiful.


    I concur!

    Cremate me too. I honestly do not visit friends or relatives in cemetaries and I just really don't want a plot and marker that after a few years will be unnoticed and unvisited. We have better uses for our land. Burn me up and scatter my ashes in a place I love so I can rest there. Hold my memories in your heart and I will always be with you.
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    Dec 06, 2009 6:27 PM GMT
    Cremated then shot into spaceicon_razz.gif
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    Dec 06, 2009 7:04 PM GMT
    Laws vary by state, but many years ago, I was the 'executor' of my friend's estate. He wanted cremation and his older sister was aghast. BUT!! and this is important

    MAKE YOUR WISHES KNOWN BY DECLARATION!!!! Either in your own handwriting if you do not have or want a will or by inserting this in your Living Will or Medical Power of Attorney. Do NOT rely on "what Jim told me when he was alive..."
    Luckily, my friend had a holographic will (i.e., written in his own handwrting) and the court had to rule in his favor.

    Second point:
    Most funeral homes rip you off! They know you are grieving and vulnerable, so....make plans in advance.
    The funeral home/crematorium where my friend was taken kept telling his lover that "Jim" had to be in coffin before cremation. In the state he lived in when he died in 1989, that was a lie. The law said nothing about a casket or even a cardboard box before cremation.
    They also kept telling "Jim's" lover that he needed an expensive urn before he could take the ashes home. Again a lie. The law then said: "a leak-proof container" and as I pointed out to the Rolex-wearing asshole Director of said establishment, a Zip-Lock bag qualified.
    So. Make sure you know your local laws, make sure OTHERS know what you desire and make sure you PUT IT IN WRITING!
    Just FYI.
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    Dec 06, 2009 7:36 PM GMT
    I dont think people should be allowed to be buried in a casket. I think there body should just be thrown into the soil to decompose as quickly as nature allows. I want my body to be burned. I dont want my own private piece of land.
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    Dec 06, 2009 7:45 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said Laws vary by state, but many years ago, I was the 'executor' of my friend's estate. He wanted cremation and his older sister was aghast. BUT!! and this is important

    MAKE YOUR WISHES KNOWN BY DECLARATION!!!! Either in your own handwriting if you do not have or want a will or by inserting this in your Living Will or Medical Power of Attorney. Do NOT rely on "what Jim told me when he was alive..."
    Luckily, my friend had a holographic will (i.e., written in his own handwrting) and the court had to rule in his favor.

    Second point:
    Most funeral homes rip you off! They know you are grieving and vulnerable, so....make plans in advance.
    The funeral home/crematorium where my friend was taken kept telling his lover that "Jim" had to be in coffin before cremation. In the state he lived in when he died in 1989, that was a lie. The law said nothing about a casket or even a cardboard box before cremation.
    They also kept telling "Jim's" lover that he needed an expensive urn before he could take the ashes home. Again a lie. The law then said: "a leak-proof container" and as I pointed out to the Rolex-wearing asshole Director of said establishment, a Zip-Lock bag qualified.
    So. Make sure you know your local laws, make sure OTHERS know what you desire and make sure you PUT IT IN WRITING!
    Just FYI.

    All true. I went through this with my late partner, who wanted cremation. Fortunately, I had made prior arrangements with a funeral home while he was terminally ill in a nursing home, and he had prepared legal documents years earlier that undeniably established his intent, that he had verbally confirmed with me. I was also his legal Personal Representative (aka Executor). Therefore his wishes were honored to the letter, with no disputes, questions or problems.

    It's all a matter of prior proper planning, as we used to say in the US Army. What do YOU have in writing that's legally binding?
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    Dec 06, 2009 8:39 PM GMT
    Shove me in a cheap cardboard box, burn me to cinders and throw me off a back of a boat while everyone is having a massive party on board... I hate parties, all that liveliness and festivities.. I always wanna get away from them and it's the perfect opportunity to do that one last time!
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    Dec 06, 2009 8:43 PM GMT
    Wowerz this is a real UPBEAT thread, just in time 4 da holidays...icon_eek.gif