UN Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen (COP 15)

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    Dec 06, 2009 3:00 PM GMT
    What are your thoughts on the UN climate change summit in Copenhagen? Will you be following it? Are you doing anything to be a part of it? (ie. not just attending but perhaps voicing concerns to local and state politicians)

    While I think I've seen a thread that contains a debate on whether or not global warming/climate change exists (don't want this to turn into that), I believe it that if steps are taken to prevent it there will be environmental, economic and political benefits that result. For example, integrating a lot of clean, renewable energy into the current energy infrastructure allows for a reduced reliance on foreign supplies of fossil fuels = increased energy security, new jobs, etc.

    Just really curious what people know about COP15 and if they care at all.
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    Dec 06, 2009 6:05 PM GMT
    RuggedSwimmer saidWhat are your thoughts on the UN climate change summit in Copenhagen? Will you be following it? Are you doing anything to be a part of it? (ie. not just attending but perhaps voicing concerns to local and state politicians)

    While I think I've seen a thread that contains a debate on whether or not global warming/climate change exists (don't want this to turn into that), I believe it that if steps are taken to prevent it there will be environmental, economic and political benefits that result. For example, integrating a lot of clean, renewable energy into the current energy infrastructure allows for a reduced reliance on foreign supplies of fossil fuels = increased energy security, new jobs, etc.

    Just really curious what people know about COP15 and if they care at all.


    I personally don't care. But I will follow some of it just because I tend to keep uptodate with current events
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    Dec 16, 2009 9:26 PM GMT
    I see that hundreds gathered to protest Global warming icon_eek.gif

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    Dec 16, 2009 9:38 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI see that hundreds gathered to protest Global warming icon_eek.gif

    GlobalWarming.jpg


    Holy shit that's awesome as hell!! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 16, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
    I've been kind of watching the little Nazis uh I mean protesters in Copenhagen... So ridiculous. Anyway as I've said before we do need to take care of our planet I'm all about that, and its not something that should be brushed off or thought of as nonsense. If we screw stuff up here we're kinda like fucked lmfao.

    I don't like how nobody wants to have any kind of real debate about it, and just feel we need to take radical actions that may very well affect all of our lives economically and maybe even socially because of the radical environmentalist. That whole incident with the emails, and things being messed with to make things seem worse than they are say a lot. It should be talked about. With the other side shouting people down, ignoring them, and continuing to arrogantly throw out numbers and talk their talk. It looks like they are afraid to debate it, and seem to have a hidden agenda.

    The Earth has its natural heating and cooling cycles, I mean I remember when I was younger it was pretty damn hot early before school was over. Lately I've noticed it not getting so hot until mid/late summer, and getting cooler quicker than usual especially this year when it was so cold here than it normally used to be.


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    Dec 16, 2009 9:57 PM GMT
    Well, that didn't take long to turn into Climate Change Is A Lie nonsense. Nazis? Really? Environmentalists want to round people up and murder them? Really?

    Anyway, no one should be surprised by what is happening. The US and China don't want radical action. The EU wants radical (sensible) action. Developing nations want action but want developed nations to bear the brunt of the cost.

    It is the same thing that has happened before. The next big summit will be the same thing until Manhattan is under water.
  • JP85257

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    Dec 16, 2009 10:08 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidWell, that didn't take long to turn into Climate Change Is A Lie nonsense. Nazis? Really? Environmentalists want to round people up and murder them? Really?

    Anyway, no one should be surprised by what is happening. The US and China don't want radical action. The EU wants radical (sensible) action. Developing nations want action but want developed nations to bear the brunt of the cost.

    It is the same thing that has happened before. The next big summit will be the same thing until Manhattan is under water.

    Nothing about this conference is sensible or practical or even NECESSARY.
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    Dec 16, 2009 10:14 PM GMT
    well, I live 10 minutes from where the summit takes place, but I haven't really participated in any activities or had the time for that matter. but you can't help be affected by the whole thing in some way, when you live here.

    there's a massive amount of police in the city, overreacting a bit, and seing troublemakers everywhere. lots of road blocks and delays in traffic.
    But there's also lots of fun activities, concerts and stuff with an environmental theme.

    I wish I'd been home saturday to see when they had the big demo, cos they passed my house. that would have been impressive

  • JP85257

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    Dec 16, 2009 10:16 PM GMT
    I enjoy how there were inumerable limos and private jets use to get to this conference.

    "Do as I say...Not as I do." Bunch of assholes.
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    Dec 16, 2009 10:21 PM GMT
    The Prince of Wales gave a lecture at the Copenhagen conference about how the world only has seven years before climate change causes a “point of crisis” that would drive food shortages, terrorism and poverty.

    Apparently, he flew there by private jet and afterwards flew back in it. I wonder what his carbon footprint was from that?
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    Dec 16, 2009 10:32 PM GMT
    redheadguy saidThe Prince of Wales gave a lecture at the Copenhagen conference about how the world only has seven years before climate change causes a “point of crisis” that would drive food shortages, terrorism and poverty.

    Apparently, he flew there by private jet and afterwards flew back in it. I wonder what his carbon footprint was from that?


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    Dec 16, 2009 10:47 PM GMT
    Talk, talk, talk, talk thats all they do then walk away and act on nothing, and my taxers are supporting that bull shite.

    Can small business in America afford it and survive too?
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    Dec 16, 2009 11:00 PM GMT
    Pattison saidTalk, talk, talk, talk thats all they do then walk away and act on nothing, and my taxers are supporting that bull shite.

    Can small business in America afford it and survive too?


    Its either this or the health care reform that will cause me to shut MY doors.
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    Dec 16, 2009 11:01 PM GMT
    Pattison saidTalk, talk, talk, talk thats all they do then walk away and act on nothing, and my taxers are supporting that bull shite.

    Can small business in America afford it and survive too?


    I heard it's The UN and the danish tax payers who are paying for it, so I think your share is disappearingly tiny.

    but you may be right about the talking and not much action.
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    Dec 16, 2009 11:03 PM GMT
    judoguy said
    Pattison saidTalk, talk, talk, talk thats all they do then walk away and act on nothing, and my taxers are supporting that bull shite.

    Can small business in America afford it and survive too?


    actually it's The UN and the danish tax payers who are paying for it, so I think your share is disappearingly tiny.

    but you may be right about the talking and not much action.

    IF the UN is paying for it that means the US is responsible for 22% because thats how much money we are paying the UN to operate. I always say shut the UN down and sell the land or turn it in to a prison for the crooks that work there.
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    Dec 16, 2009 11:10 PM GMT
    I looked it up to be sure...

    it seems Denmark is paying for the whole shabang

    except hotels and travel costs for the participants...

    my mistake