Gay men are dirty....

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    Dec 08, 2009 2:55 AM GMT
    Recently I was at a boutique getting a Jacket altered to fit me more sleek and the tailoress was curious to know why I need the Jacket to be so tightly-fitted like Gay men... and then she said it "You are not gay... gay men are dirty... ". I was with a female friend and I guess I am not so gay-acting so she assumed I was straight. I asked her why she thought gay men are dirty and this was her answer "Because they go with everyone"... meaning Gay men have sex a lot and we are all whores.

    I was hurt by the comment and at the same time did not have the courage to argue with her.... looking around the gay community .... is it not true that Gay men are whores?? This is what straight people think of Gays...this is why they hate us... not because we are gay but we are promiscous?? Look at Gay pride parades... they are all a display of bodies and sexual stuff... I do hate myself for being gay sometimes... the stress of disease, lonliness and bullshit going on with gay people is quite disgusting... when will Gays start behaving like normal human beings and earn the respect of society,.. its about time.
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    Dec 08, 2009 2:59 AM GMT
    I'm dirty *nods* actually a more appropriate description would be filthy.

    Just not with everyone hehe

    Some people just make an assumption and stick to it and that's all there is too it, ignore'em aren't worth the time and effort to fight'em.
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    Dec 08, 2009 3:06 AM GMT

    "shrugs* I should feel bad because I always thought straight people were dirty. Go to a straight bar , honey. Last call is just tragic.

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    Dec 08, 2009 3:20 AM GMT

    Heh, right. I think if you added up all the dirty overly promiscuous lying exhibitionist, diseased bullshitting straight men their sheer numbers would outweigh all the gays on the planet.

    Check out Mardi Gras for straight displays of bodies n sexual stuff.
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    Dec 08, 2009 3:24 AM GMT
    she was probably Catholic. you should have told her only the good die young....

    but seriously.......you are not anything you don't want to be so just because you see stuff you don't like it doesn't mean that it is you.

    define for yourself what it means to be a person who happens to be gay.......and live it....and be proud.
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    Dec 08, 2009 3:28 AM GMT
    Yeah... good luck


    you're probably going to get attacked for that post.



    That said, you do make a good point... but the question is visibility. It's not that gay men are dirty, its that dirty gay men are the ones that heterosexual society chooses to see. Hopefully this will change someday.


    And about the pride parade thing.... I said something very similar to that when I first started here on RJ and the war that ensued was nothing short of epic. I stand by my opinion, and I think you're right about that.


    Please don't ever hate yourself for being gay, though. Hate the people that make it "unacceptable." I have a feeling that without all of the discrimination and repressed sexuality, the gay community would be... well, probably just as diverse at is now, but much more stable, and as many would say it, "respectable"
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    Dec 08, 2009 3:32 AM GMT
    KissingPro saidshe was probably Catholic. you should have told her only the good die young....

    but seriously.......you are not anything you don't want to be so just because you see stuff you don't like it doesn't mean that it is you.

    define for yourself what it means to be a person who happens to be gay.......and live it....and be proud.




    Yes she was catholic.. she was from italy.... they hate gays in Italy...
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    Dec 08, 2009 3:34 AM GMT
    You should have asked her how she knew this about gays?

    I find making people examine their statements and reasoning quickly leads them to the baselessness of their position.

    BTW, you should take your business elsewhere from now on, too.
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    Dec 08, 2009 3:45 AM GMT
    Caslon12000 saidYou should have asked her how she knew this about gays?

    I find making people examine their statements and reasoning quickly leads them to the baselessness of their position.

    BTW, you should take your business elsewhere from now on, too.



    Believe it or not.. this was at a Prada store.. where most of the Male employees are gay.... she did not say it in a nasty way - but rather generally... and casually... I don't think she even thought twice before saying it.
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    Dec 08, 2009 3:47 AM GMT

    She's just repeating what all of society has always said. And while they're casting stones in glass houses, their sons and daughters are dirtier than we could ever hope to be. It's funny.

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    Exnewyorker saidBelieve it or not.. this was at a Prada store.. where most of the Male employees are gay.... she did not say it in a nasty way - but rather generally... and casually... I don't think she even thought twice before saying it.

    All the more reason to help this poor blighted soul examine her beliefs...and report her to management. ... icon_twisted.gif ... that bitch would be a boat back to Italy if I could manage it...with her new appreciation of gays.
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    Dec 08, 2009 3:59 AM GMT
    We're no dirtier or more depraved than the straighties -- it was just her limited way of justifying her homophobia to herself. You know, so she could be hateful yet still sleep well at night thinking it 'justified.'
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    Dec 08, 2009 4:03 AM GMT
    I have never heard gay guys called dirty, since we typically very hygiene oriented. As for being whores, straight guys are the same way you always here about straight guys cheating on wifes or girlfriends. Being gay has nothing to do with promiscuity with the exception that some guys are lonely and believe that sex is the answer and it takes them too long to figure out it's not. Part of the problem is that the gay couples who are happy and monogamous, don't hit the bars or the social scene so what is mostly on display are the young party boys who are sowing their wild oats. I think almost every guy both gay and straight go through a period of having a lot of sex with a lot of people as they try to figure out what they like and what they don't. The media does us no favors either when they only print photos of half naked dancing boys, dragqueens, dykes on bikes, etc when they report on gay pride festivals.
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    Dec 08, 2009 5:51 AM GMT
    " looking around the gay community .... is it not true that Gay men are whores??"
    ---Most men (gay and straight) crave sex. Gay men just have more opportunities.

    " This is what straight people think of Gays...this is why they hate us... not because we are gay but we are promiscous??"
    ---No. They hate us because we are different.

    " Look at Gay pride parades... they are all a display of bodies and sexual stuff"
    ---Have you ever seen the straight Carnival parades of mostly-naked men and women ?

    " I do hate myself for being gay sometimes."
    ---Well, there's nothing you can do to change it, so you might as well develop a positive attitude.

    " the stress of disease, lonliness and bullshit going on with gay people is quite disgusting."
    ---Heterosexuals also suffer the stress of disease, loneliness, and bullshit.

    " when will Gays start behaving like normal human beings and earn the respect of society,.. its about time."
    ---Gays already ARE behaving like normal human beings. As for earning the respect of "society," it is society's choice to embrace us, accept us, tolerate us, or go fuck themselves.
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    Dec 08, 2009 5:57 AM GMT
    i've known a lot more straight folk that do some pretty ... weird stuff. even given the ratio of gay to straight.

    she's just expressing her prejudice. i'd hand the jacket back and refuse to buy it (or have it tailored) from there. i'd also give her a semi-polite piece of mind.
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    Dec 08, 2009 6:02 AM GMT
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    Exnewyorker said when will Gays start behaving like normal human beings and earn the respect of society,.. its about time.

    Oh my,, someone get me a drink, STAT!

    Shaken or stirred, honey? icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 08, 2009 6:07 AM GMT
    p.s. this pissed me off, i needed a moment to cool before replying

    Exnewyorker saidI do hate myself for being gay sometimes... the stress of disease, lonliness and bullshit going on with gay people is quite disgusting... when will Gays start behaving like normal human beings and earn the respect of society,.. its about time.


    society can kiss my ass. they haven't earned -my- respect. there's no more exaggeration of disease in gays than in straights. one might forget, for all the gays waving pink assless chap butts and throwing dildos around in a pride parade, there are surely a dozen on the sidewalk outwardly indistinguishable from their straight neighbor.

    just because one homo rapes a kid, does that mean all homos are pedos?
    just because one homo gets AIDS, does that mean all homos are AIDS ridden?
    just because one homo is a literal whore, does that mean all are?

    check thyself
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    Dec 08, 2009 6:14 AM GMT
    mcwclewis saidPlease don't ever hate yourself for being gay, though. Hate the people that make it "unacceptable".



    I love these words.....Thanks! icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 08, 2009 6:18 AM GMT
    Being gay rocks. The world can SUCK IT if it deems to find any discrepancy in that.
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    Dec 08, 2009 6:23 AM GMT
    firefighterblu3 said....

    just because one homo rapes a kid, does that mean all homos are pedos?
    just because one homo gets AIDS, does that mean all homos are AIDS ridden?
    just because one homo is a literal whore, does that mean all are?



    not sure why you chose to sandwich 'AIDS ridden (riddled?)' between references to pedophiles and whores.... surely you don't mean to equate a gay man with AIDS to raping a kid or being a literal whore???? i hope not. i took offense... and i'm sure some of realjock's HIV+ members will/did/should as well. if you were trying to make a point, maybe there was a better way to do it?

    some gays have wholesome, loving, monogamous relationships... oh wait... never mind.
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    Dec 08, 2009 6:29 AM GMT
    I feel your frustration, Blu. WHY, would the op feel angst or embarrassment about a totally unfounded comment , especially in reference to himself? He knows he's not dirty, so why would he take something on that has zero to do with him? And why not just say, "Wow, lady, you shouldn't stereotype folks. How many gays do you even know?" She'd a been speechless of course. In the meantime, the straights can do as they like, which I can't blame them. They aren't worried about what anybody thinks of them; why should we?
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    Dec 08, 2009 6:35 AM GMT
    it's puzzling seeing gay men wondering how gay men are.

    Know thyself ! said the old greek.
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    Exnewyorker saidRecently I was at a boutique getting a Jacket altered to fit me more sleek and the tailoress was curious to know why I need the Jacket to be so tightly-fitted like Gay men... and then she said it "You are not gay... gay men are dirty... ". I was with a female friend and I guess I am not so gay-acting so she assumed I was straight. I asked her why she thought gay men are dirty and this was her answer "Because they go with everyone"... meaning Gay men have sex a lot and we are all whores.

    I was hurt by the comment and at the same time did not have the courage to argue with her.... looking around the gay community .... is it not true that Gay men are whores?? This is what straight people think of Gays...this is why they hate us... not because we are gay but we are promiscous?? Look at Gay pride parades... they are all a display of bodies and sexual stuff... I do hate myself for being gay sometimes... the stress of disease, lonliness and bullshit going on with gay people is quite disgusting... when will Gays start behaving like normal human beings and earn the respect of society,.. its about time.


    That couldn't be the furthest from the truth.
    Gay men are not whores (though some do live up to the generalization). And to say that gay men sleep around too much is just rediculous. Heterosexuals are just as promiscous as homosexuals.

    There is more to the gay community than sweaty bodies and sex.

    You are locking your mind too much into negative thinking, and as a result you will feel self-loathing and disgust. Don't believe gossip. Get out of your chair and get into the community. Find out really what the gay community is about. Talk to them. Share your thoughts.
    It is amazing what you can learn from someone else's viewpoint.
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    Dec 08, 2009 6:59 AM GMT
    What's this? I showered just this morning. icon_sad.gif
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    Dec 08, 2009 7:20 AM GMT
    I see the homophobes and bigots are still running amok. Stereotyping and trash-talking gay people they don't even know. Hateful, brainwashed, and ignorant, they are the destroyers of beauty, diversity and knowledge. When will the hypocritical homophobes start acting like decent human beings so they can earn my respect? icon_rolleyes.gif

    "To the unclean, nothing is clean"