Slow news days

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    Dec 11, 2009 1:06 PM GMT
    When I went to watch the Today show prior to heading out I see the story about the freezing cold, H1N1 vaccine, and then as if it's vital for every viewer to know an alleged mistress of Tiger Woods.
    When has it ever become that we as a country are more interested in cheating, which occurs everyday, in celebrities lives rather than issues at hand (i.e. Climate change, State legislation on landmark issues or a person who has done something good in their community). Televised news is such a joke, I can't even watch it in interest without being forced to watch a crappy headline (TIGER). Anyone else in the same boat?
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    Dec 11, 2009 5:49 PM GMT
    I rarely watch tv news for exactly this reason
  • EricLA

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    Dec 11, 2009 6:01 PM GMT
    I'm pretty religious about watching the Today Show in the morning. I read the newspaper at the same time. But since I was done by the time they put her on, I took the opportunity to brush my teeth. It was a long segment, though, so I did some channel surfing until it was over.

    I'm with you on this. There are far more important things to be covering.
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    Dec 11, 2009 6:18 PM GMT
    Let's face it... TV news programs are more like social reports than journalism. FoxNews is the worst of the bunch because they try more than anyone to mask themselves as an unbiased report on the news but are far from that. The Today Show, Good Morning America, and shows like them are entertainment programs with a news segment here and there. All of them have to be taken for what they are.

    Admittedly, I'm biased about newspapers since I'm in the business. But more and more people are turning to TV news and internet sites (Yahoo, AOL, and the like are nothing more than TV news on your computer) and away from non-tabloid newspapers where the real reporting and exchange of ideas and information goes on. You can say they have liberal slants, mouthpiece of the Democrats, or whatever... but they at least TRY to play the roll of watchdogs of government and disseminators of information people need to know.

    Serious, important journalism is still happening. But people are turning away from it in favor of the type of programming this thread is lamenting. Be honest... it's a comment on society more than anything else. Media executives are being forced by the trends of society to make decisions based on the "if you can't beat em, join em" model.

    Rant over. Back to working on tomorrow's front page and hoping to avoid the next round of journalist job cuts. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 11, 2009 6:24 PM GMT
    djdorchester2 saidLet's face it... TV news programs are more like social reports than journalism. FoxNews is the worst of the bunch because they try more than anyone to mask themselves as an unbiased report on the news but are far from that. The Today Show, Good Morning America, and shows like them are entertainment programs with a news segment here and there. All of them have to be taken for what they are.

    Admittedly, I'm biased about newspapers since I'm in the business. But more and more people are turning to TV news and internet sites (Yahoo, AOL, and the like are nothing more than TV news on your computer) and away from non-tabloid newspapers where the real reporting and exchange of ideas and information goes on. You can say they have liberal slants, mouthpiece of the Democrats, or whatever... but they at least TRY to play the roll of watchdogs of government and disseminators of information people need to know.

    Serious, important journalism is still happening. But people are turning away from it in favor of the type of programming this thread is lamenting. Be honest... it's a comment on society more than anything else. Media executives are being forced by the trends of society to make decisions based on the "if you can't beat em, join em" model.

    Rant over. Back to working on tomorrow's front page and hoping to avoid the next round of journalist job cuts. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I will admit it is a blow to us in the US, I've always thought they give us what we want, so if we want constant entertainment news we'll get it 24/7hrs a day. I just never imagine it would replace news about things that actually matter or could be beneficially for us to know.

    I'm a big fan of investigate journalism and because I see a lack of that on the national level (CNN weekend special are great though). I guess that why I'm a bit dishearten by what I see.
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    Dec 11, 2009 7:10 PM GMT
    I myself have taken little notice of Tigers alleged affairs, who cares his only some guy who can hit a ball with a stick really well; sadly America has the same fixation with it's Politicians too, but that fixation is fobbed off with: it's all in the nations interest, and if the White House is being turned into a whore house, with interns, as the .........
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    Dec 11, 2009 7:18 PM GMT
    Ricovelas saidWhen I went to watch the Today show prior to heading out I see the story about the freezing cold, H1N1 vaccine, and then as if it's vital for every viewer to know an alleged mistress of Tiger Woods.
    When has it ever become that we as a country are more interested in cheating, which occurs everyday, in celebrities lives rather than issues at hand (i.e. Climate change, State legislation on landmark issues or a person who has done something good in their community). Televised news is such a joke, I can't even watch it in interest without being forced to watch a crappy headline (TIGER). Anyone else in the same boat?


    I am another who doesn't watch television news. It's more about entertaining than reporting.
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    Dec 11, 2009 7:30 PM GMT
    That's why I dont own a TV. It literally makes me sick to my stomach everytime i see someone watching the brainwashing pop culture media hypnotizing folks everyday. This country is almost completely convinced that celebreties are political, world leaders that we should care for more than the real people that actually (silently) make a difference in this world everyday...who aren't 'entertainers'. What a joke.
    I can't remember exactly who it was or what the issue was about, but recently some singer/actors were speaking out against Iran's President Ahmadinejad...I can't imagine how hard he was laughing to himself, thinking, who the fuck are these guys and why the fuck should I care about what they have to say. I would have to agree with the crazy son of a bitch on that one!
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    Dec 11, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
    drjon2ko saidI can't remember exactly who it was or what the issue was about, but recently some singer/actors were speaking out against Iran's President Ahmadinejad...I can't imagine how hard he was laughing to himself, thinking, who the fuck are these guys and why the fuck should I care about what they have to say. I would have to agree with the crazy son of a bitch on that one!



    I think he would laugh if God himself was speaking out against him.

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    Dec 11, 2009 8:24 PM GMT
    Thank goodness for the: "Man Show." TV would be worthless without it......
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    Dec 11, 2009 8:50 PM GMT
    Pattison saidThank goodness for the: "Man Show." TV would be worthless without it......



    OMG is that show still on? I thought it was off the air. Outstanding TV.

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    Dec 12, 2009 1:47 AM GMT
    I got disgusted with a few of the local news stations after they started implementing Twitter comments into the news reports. icon_confused.gif
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    Dec 12, 2009 1:54 AM GMT
    I work in TV news and am in complete agreement with the sentiments posted here. I am very old school and fight every day to get serious news into the day's newscasts but it's often a losing battle.

    Management is convinced that we should chase after 20-somethings. I like all you guys in that age group, but I know you aren't dedicated watchers. Yet your parents are, so it makes no sense to me that we are trying to shape our coverage for an audience that isn't watching. Epically stupid.

    And, yes, Twitter drives me nuts. It's rare that anyone tweets or e-mails us with anything valid or interesting to say, but we put it on the air to appear "interactive."

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    Dec 12, 2009 2:03 AM GMT
    captproton saidI work in TV news and am in complete agreement with the sentiments posted here. I am very old school and fight every day to get serious news into the day's newscasts but it's often a losing battle.

    Management is convinced that we should chase after 20-somethings. I like all you guys in that age group, but I know you aren't dedicated watchers. Yet your parents are, so it makes no sense to me that we are trying to shape our coverage for an audience that isn't watching. Epically stupid.

    And, yes, Twitter drives me nuts. It's rare that anyone tweets or e-mails us with anything valid or interesting to say, but we put it on the air to appear "interactive."



    I hope for the sake of all things important that printed news via newspaper doesn't fall to the wayside. If so were all doomed to a relentless flow of news from everyone to Angelina Jolie to Fran Dresser and Lynda Carter(I luv her, so no flames) icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 12, 2009 2:12 AM GMT
    TV news is pretty much a repetitive drone any more. Working in the industry this frustrates me, especially in one of the top 15 tv markets. There are many information workers who are fed up with this style, but we must wait until those making the decisions for the station retire or make their exit from power.

    One of the issues with pushing more information, though is the lack of direct impact. News and information is truly local, however, someone in Sacramento may not care about the embezzling of a city council member in Juneau. Media is looking for new methods and perhaps Good Morning America will unveil a new level and intimacy of reporting when George steps up to co-anchor on Monday.

    Until then one way to make an impact is to tell stations you want something different. Should enough voices be raised perhaps those in power might begin to see their format has gone stale and is loosing eyeballs and revenue because no one wants to watch old news.
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    Dec 12, 2009 2:25 AM GMT
    TV news is pretty much a repetitive drone any more. Working in the industry this frustrates me, especially in one of the top 15 tv markets. There are many information workers who are fed up with this style, but we must wait until those making the decisions for the station retire or make their exit from power.

    One of the issues with pushing more information, though is the lack of direct impact. News and information is truly local, however, someone in Sacramento may not care about the embezzling of a city council member in Juneau. Media is looking for new methods and perhaps Good Morning America will unveil a new level and intimacy of reporting when George steps up to co-anchor on Monday.

    Until then one way to make an impact is to tell stations you want something different. Should enough voices be raised perhaps those in power might begin to see their format has gone stale and is loosing eyeballs and revenue because no one wants to watch old news.
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    Dec 12, 2009 5:31 PM GMT
    Agreed, iadj86, well said. And subscribe to your newspaper, even if you don't read it every day... it's an investment in society because I truly believe a serious flow of relevant news is critical for a democratic society to work.

    As a side note, responding to a great comment made by CaptProton, newspapers in recent years spent a ton of effort and time figuring out how to snag the 20something crowd and turn them into subscribers. It didn't work (obviously) and the effort was at the expense of older generations who are our consumer base right now. They (we) have realized it and are refocusing on that base, and setting ourselves up technologically for the future when the 20somethings grow into our base audience. It's not a slam on that age group at all, it's just a reality that they aren't going to be attracted en masse to serious news/journalism yet. But they will, if we overhaul the internet (and other new-media platforms) to effectively separate entertainment from news then they will become the new base as older generations die off .... er... move on.

    Until then... OMG did you hear that Gillette isn't going to run Tiger's ads anymore????????? I'm like, really? Werd.