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Dec 11, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
Do I still love him? Does he still love me? If the answers are yes, I think I stay with him, despite the BIG MISTAKES.
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If you were Tiger Woods' spouse, would you stay with him, in view of all the recent disclosures?
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 11, 2009 9:47 PM GMTI would pack up my kids and I would be out. If the affairs are true they're just too many women. When one of my ex-lovers came clean out his cheating ways. I was done. He knew fresh out the gate if you cheat on me or hit me we're done no discussion.
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QUOTE Dec 11, 2009 10:02 PM GMTInfidelity is unforgiveable when its done once. This guy did it multiple times! I just don't think i could forgive that.
If he was so loving and devoted to his wife he wouldn't have done this.
It must be so hard to be rich and famous and hold your morals in tact.
Shame on him, and i hope she leaves him high and dry, i know i would. -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 11, 2009 10:16 PM GMTlets not confuse lust with love, and having sex, to making love, as neither are the same; albeit the actions may seem like it.
He may of loved his wife, but she may not be good in bed, or after having two kids has lots all her sex drive, or just can't stand the sight of his pee wee anymore, so he has jumped the fence and berried his bone in the bitch nextdoor; but still love his wife.
For me it would depend on what we may have already agreed on; something may die, but it may well not be the end; it all depends on many other things. -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 11, 2009 10:24 PM GMTC'mon girl don't be a fool like the late Lady Diana Spencer, the Princess of Wales, all she had to do was keep her mouth shout, and have a smile on her face, while doing her duties.
Girl don't make the same mistake. Take full advantage of the opportunities givern you, and do it as if you were born with breeding, class, and style. Stand by your man, and enjoy all the privileges.........But please no more running down the street attacking people with golf clubs, it just doesn't look nice, or lady like. -
QUOTE Dec 11, 2009 10:26 PM GMTNo. Infidelity is the one unforgivable sin to me. Well, I take that back. I might eventually forgive him but I would never trust him so we couldn't be together anymore. A betrayal of this sort after solemn oaths of faithfulness and fidelity before God and a shitload of witnesses is a dealbreaker...
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QUOTE Dec 11, 2009 10:28 PM GMT
Pattison saidlets not confuse lust with love, and having sex, to making love, as neither are the same; albeit the actions may seem like it.
He may of love his wife, but she may not be good in bed, or after having two kids has lots all her sex drive, or just can't stand the sight of his pee wee, so he has jumped the fence and berried his bone in the bitch next door; but still love his wife.
For me it would depend on what we may have already agreed on; something may die, but it may well not be the end; it all depends on many other things.
Here's the thing: he promised her on their wedding day, as all married couples do, to never allow this to happen. That's a big promise to make, and one that most people take very seriously. If the relationship is so broken that he no longer wants her, then divorce for goodness sake, but don't forsake your marriage vows... -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 11, 2009 10:31 PM GMTlets not confuse lust with love, and having sex, to making love, as neither are the same; albeit the actions may seem like it.
He may of love his wife, but she may not be good in bed, or after having two kids has lots all her sex drive, or just can't stand the sight of his pee wee, so he has jumped the fence and berried his bone in the bitch next door; but still love his wife.
For me it would depend on what we may have already agreed on; something may die, but it may well not be the end; it all depends on many other things.
If you really love someone why would you do things that hurt them, and in this case Tiger's a recidivist. I mean if you love someone but have issues there's therapy and counseling.
On another note Jenny Sanford is divorcing that douchebag of a husband. -
QUOTE Dec 11, 2009 10:38 PM GMTI think it would be tough to stay, even with the extra money he might toss my way. But how much ridicule is all that money worth? I'm pretty sure I'd get the hell out of dodge. I'm sure it's little consolation, but she should still get a good bundle of money out of him. And he can get on with shagging low-class blond women less attractive that with his wife but with big breasts.
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 11, 2009 10:43 PM GMTIt depends on what my prenuptial contract says I should do.
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 11, 2009 10:49 PM GMTLets not forget man is not perfect; none of us. It's sad that people with low self worth love to see those put up on a pedestal, shoved off it; it helps them feel better about themselves; and yes therapy is at hand for them too.
I have taken very little notice of these alleged incidents with Tiger, it not my relationship, and not my place to force my morals, or what I would or would not accept in a relationship, on another couples, as their relationship, is as similar, as they are to I.
Face when marriage was invented by man, and this thing until death do us part come into act, you were bloody lucky if you lived to be 40. So until death do us part, was not a very long time, as it can be today.
Maybe marriage should be automatically annulled after 10 years, if you don't re register. -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 11, 2009 10:57 PM GMT
rigsby saidDo I still love him? Does he still love me? If the answers are yes, I think I stay with him, despite the BIG MISTAKES.
Does your being a golfer influence your position?
I say soak Woods for everything he's got, and move on. Big mistakes mean big flaws, that are likely to persist in the future. Get out when you can, with all that you can. Make him an example so that others are less likely to suffer this. It's really one's civic duty. -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 11, 2009 11:23 PM GMTVespa, I can't say that being a golfer does not influence my opinion, but, if so, I don't know how it does.
I don't often agree with Pattison, but I think his opinion mirrors mine on this issue. It is pretty well established that (1) love/sex is totally different than (2)long term nesting love. The point is that a couple can enjoy (1) or (2) as the basis for their relationship or their love may be built on both (1) and (2). Don't the children factor into your decision? Does the amount of money that you might receive now as opposed to what you might receive in the future factor? Is it worth another $50,000,000 to put up with the philanderer for a few more years? -
QUOTE Dec 11, 2009 11:41 PM GMTLet's be real. This "marriage" was always about money. She knew she was just a lucky mistress when they got married. This whole blow up was started by tabloid media that got under her skin.
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QUOTE Dec 12, 2009 12:01 AM GMT
It must be so hard to be rich and famous and hold your morals in tact.
Shame on him, and i hope she leaves him high and dry, i know i would.[/quote]
Morals?????................ like not having sex with guys? LOL -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 12, 2009 12:03 AM GMT
rigsby saidVespa, I can't say that being a golfer does not influence my opinion, but, if so, I don't know how it does.
I don't often agree with Pattison, but I think his opinion mirrors mine on this issue. It is pretty well established that (1) love/sex is totally different than (2)long term nesting love. The point is that a couple can enjoy (1) or (2) as the basis for their relationship or their love may be built on both (1) and (2). Don't the children factor into your decision? Does the amount of money that you might receive now as opposed to what you might receive in the future factor? Is it worth another $50,000,000 to put up with the philanderer for a few more years?
Well I wondered if a golfer might be more sympathetic to a fellow golfer. But that aside, how more mercenary is it to "put up with the philanderer for a few more years" as being "worth another $50,000,000" rather than to hit him now, and make the point, exiting with one's integrity intact. Not to mention while still in the prime of life, with the prospect of yet finding a more faithful husband with whom to grow old.
Woods may be a great golfer, but he's a lousy husband, and unlike fine wine, these guys rarely get better with time. I see evidence of neither love nor nesting in this, but rather a guy who wants all the outward window dressing of a public family image, but with none of the personal limitations & obligations.
This model of the spoiled, self-indulgent celebrity is well known, and I see no reason why his wife should buy into it at her expense. Rather, it should come at his expense, since he is the one at fault here, not her. -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 12, 2009 12:06 AM GMTHere's the thing. We wouldn't give a shit if he were just dating and weren't married. Some reports say that he never wanted to get married and that it just happened. He has never been happy with married life and thus this is the reaction. Is it an excuse no, just a "oh" situation. If he hadn't gotten married and just kept her as his GF / baby mama then we would be shrugging our shoulders.
Be that as it may, he is still the Golden Boy of golf and one of the greatest fucking athlete of all time. I watch him to see how to play golf no to get tips on how to be faithful, a good day, or a great husband. -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 12, 2009 12:13 AM GMTI wouldn't be with him to begin with.
I remember, years ago, watching a clip of him throwing a fit on the fairway because a few fans snapped a picture of him. . . and he started whinnnning that the HORRIBLE flash spoiled his precious concentration for a split second. . . so he freaked out and made a scene. . .
I thought, what a jerk. . . this is not a nice man.
None of this surprises me. Sounds just like him. -
QUOTE Dec 12, 2009 12:16 AM GMT
rigsby saidVespa, I can't say that being a golfer does not influence my opinion, but, if so, I don't know how it does.
I don't often agree with Pattison, but I think his opinion mirrors mine on this issue. It is pretty well established that (1) love/sex is totally different than (2)long term nesting love. The point is that a couple can enjoy (1) or (2) as the basis for their relationship or their love may be built on both (1) and (2). Don't the children factor into your decision? Does the amount of money that you might receive now as opposed to what you might receive in the future factor? Is it worth another $50,000,000 to put up with the philanderer for a few more years?
I agree with you more than you think, but here's the deal: there was a Sacrament of Matrimony performed. He promised her, before God and who knows how many witnesses, that he would be faithful only to her. I take those sorts of vows very seriously, which is why I am notably unforgiving of infidelity. If you feel the need to stray, get counseling. If that doesn't work, dissolve the marriage but please don't break solemn vows... -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 12, 2009 12:22 AM GMTI believe I'd want so badly to honor those vows if I made them with my b.f. Another thought - - if you really love someone - you'd never want to hurt them - and beyond that - you'd not even want to be with anyone else. I might admire a guy for a few seconds or a minute - - - but the man I have is the man I want.
As far as the question of leaving Tiger........well, it doesn't sound like any love match to me. Does she have a pre-nup? She might consider getting a good attorney and a settlement for herself and the two kids..........$$$$$ ka-ching! -
Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 12, 2009 2:07 AM GMTI would ditch his ass without question. The question of whether we loved each other would have NOTHING AT ALL to do with my answer. It's the HIDING of it that I would take issue with. I like MEN who have enough BALLS to get up in my face BEFORE they take the kind of step Tiger took and say 'hey, I met this person who I am seriously attracted to and would like to fuck their brains out. However, given you and I are in a relationship here, I think it only fair to let you know of this situation BEFORE I take the next step, so you can make whatever choice you need to make regarding our relationship." In other words, if a man will fuck around behind my back, in the same manner that a high school CHILD might sneak a smoke in the bathroom, not only is he NOT the man for me, he isn't even a MAN to begin with.
On the other hand, I don't fight it in situations like this. I simply tell them they may as well go get what they want, because I am DONE here.
Aside from that, why do FOOLS like Tiger not END the present mess of a relationship BEFORE they start the next mess of a relationship? Additionally, why do these sports stars, (particularly those who are married, which comes with certain rights in the case of divorce), do shit like this in the first place? Do they WANT to be divorced, leaving the law entirely on the side of the spouse, so the spouse can get the maximum possible in the divorce? -
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QUOTE Dec 12, 2009 2:47 AM GMTI stay with him for all his money. But I will have an affair with some handsome, muscular guy and better in bed type of person. It just fair isnt it.
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QUOTE Dec 12, 2009 3:19 AM GMTCan't put a price on dignity... the girl should save what little she has left and leave.
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Posted by a hidden member.Log in to view his profileQUOTE Dec 12, 2009 3:48 AM GMT
No.
But I find all the publicity against the man unfair...as if we have a right to know about his private life and his text messages etc. If I had an image of him being a perfect person, that was my misperception.
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