Are otherwise intelligent men "Gay Stupid," When it comes to matters of life and love and why is this ?

  • stonefire

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    Dec 13, 2009 5:36 PM GMT
    What I mean by this is that the Gay part of me which is part of a whole being is not ruled by my attraction to other men, is not ruled by either by cock, or my heart, and thus is just a part of a me, not the whole.By thinking this through I have realised it's a sensibilty ,and I have tried not to be trapped by media images from gay world plc .Many intelligent men its seems live their lives in in a sort of gay stupor,without thinking it through ,gratefull to belong to some sort of gay world and totally buying into it and its social mores .So when they enter this world they become "Gay Stupid " being affected by someone who they see as beautiful /ugly as the case maybe ,and jump accordingly,. Which I find disheartening, having friends of substance is important , and trying to discuss bigger things than cock ! [ joke] would seem to be important in ones social as well as work life .Not just the beauty myth versus personality , but the ability to be a relevant human being in the world is more important surely? Judging how "hot" someone is and how perfect their body is transitory if there in no humanity/caring there as well .We will all get old hopefully and have friends/lovers who will all get old with us..if all we are/have is a perfect body we will all be disappointed with each other, and as far as I know we all change ,get older and fall apart in some ways. No matter how young you look, if you are 45 you are actually 45 years old ,not 25 ,and the difference in those years should be reflected in the growth of your personality. The idea of some frends who are trying to recapture their youth by desperate measures is saddening if there is nothing else but looking young , and quite often "Gay World" makes us feel ,this is all that is important .The hope one has , to be seen as someone who still matters is dismaying,if age can't be celebrated as well.as youth. I have some friends who take hours getting ready to go out to clubs,and come back disappointed and know of old an acquaintance who took a change of clothes to sit in a coffee shop window ,as he worried he wasn't hot enough.to matter anymore .......perhaps as the song goes "growing old but feeling younger "is the thing we should aim for Peace to everyone ,gs
  • Little_Spoon

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    Dec 13, 2009 5:59 PM GMT
    I play Lack of Experience, in Defense Mode!
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    Dec 13, 2009 6:02 PM GMT
    DanielH saidI play Lack of Experience, in Defense Mode!


    same here
  • masculumpedes

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    Dec 13, 2009 6:05 PM GMT
    Wow...Powerful post...but also very true. I'm 48, and not ashamed of it, I've earned every year ( and every grey hair) 43.gif
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    Dec 13, 2009 6:19 PM GMT
    Many men w/ average looks have a wake up call that slaps them truth when they hit that corner stone in their life. all of a sudden they stop lking for quantity and more so quality. You start looking for substance and not so much seem to mind all the things that made your eyes pierce w/ disgust at a fellow suitor.It's funny how so many can let wrds fall frm there lips disguising who they are and how they really feel hiding under a blanket of political correctness. Later letting all that fall by the waist line to compromise and except all the things they use to loathe and simply because they come to realize there appeal is not what it once was and the tables has been spun full circle
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    Dec 13, 2009 7:00 PM GMT
    I want to respond but I suppose I have no room. Both the man I have recently fallen in love with (even though his bf makes things rather difficult and I would be all over him in a heartbeat if this were not the case) and my sugar momma (that pays me well to watch her house's and I of whom I work with on a daily basis) are close to twice my age, yet we act in very similar ways. I have been told that I have the maturity of a 40 year old (probably due to my acid and mushrooms enlightenment stage in high school), but to me they act young at heart and I suppose this is what I love about them.

    I suppose what I am trying to say is that I think its ok for intelligent people kick back and have a little fun. I am not promoting this "gay stupor" (I won't capitalize it because then it might seem as though I find it a threatening issue) but I think that it might actually be good for those who don't buy into it. I find it quite amusing when I see this, its kind of a mid life Mardi Gras stage.

    I know I am too young to be arguing this issue and living in Alabama, I am in ways blind to this issue (but I do love to argue at times). I am a dork though so I like to pick people's brains at times.

    I say that life is short, enjoy yours, be there for ones that need you, and integrate the word "fatty" in your vocabulary (don't take things too seriously).

    And if it helps, just stop watching television. It does more harm than good.

    If this doesn't make sense, I just woke up and felt like rambling. icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 13, 2009 7:08 PM GMT
    A group of dim, shallow men is not the gay world. Sorry your friends are boring.
  • stonefire

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    Dec 13, 2009 7:54 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidA group of dim, shallow men is not the gay world. Sorry your friends are boring.


    hi there, i was meaning it as a univeral thing.not necessarily my friends who are many and varied and not all gay..gs
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    Dec 13, 2009 8:15 PM GMT
    stonefire saidhi there, i was meaning it as a univeral thing.not necessarily my friends who are many and varied and not all gay..gs

    The universal principle is flawed as it is cultural. I wonder how Kant would react to the notion of universal notions of gay behavior?

    To be more helpful, not everyone is at the same point in life as you may be. That shouldn't make you discouraged, just enthusiastic about finding someone who is.
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    Dec 13, 2009 8:27 PM GMT
    Depends how you see yourself and the world around you. If you are a realist, you need not worry. Alas, not many are and we tend to bend reality the way in which we choose to see it; hear things the way we want to hear them.
    Age, youth, beauty.. such trivial matters.
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    Dec 13, 2009 8:29 PM GMT
    Pinny said
    stonefire saidhi there, i was meaning it as a univeral thing.not necessarily my friends who are many and varied and not all gay..gs

    The universal principle is flawed as it is cultural. I wonder how Kant would react to the notion of universal notions of gay behavior?

    To be more helpful, not everyone is at the same point in life as you may be. That shouldn't make you discouraged, just enthusiastic about finding someone who is.


    A thoughtful man, but I did say many not all .. I feel it's more of a long sigh than being discouraged, cheers m8 for getting involved gs
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    Dec 14, 2009 3:16 AM GMT
    Hey jp, I think he may be making a commentary on a lot of what goes on, on RJ.

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    stonefire saidWhat I mean by this is that the Gay part of me which is part of a whole being is not ruled by my attraction to other men, is not ruled by either by cock, or my heart, and thus is just a part of a me, not the whole.By thinking this through I have realised it's a sensibilty ,and I have tried not to be trapped by media images from gay world plc .Many intelligent men its seems live their lives in in a sort of gay stupor,without thinking it through ,gratefull to belong to some sort of gay world and totally buying into it and its social mores .So when they enter this world they become "Gay Stupid " being affected by someone who they see as beautiful /ugly as the case maybe ,and jump accordingly,. Which I find disheartening, having friends of substance is important , and trying to discuss bigger things than cock ! [ joke] would seem to be important in ones social as well as work life .Not just the beauty myth versus personality , but the ability to be a relevant human being in the world is more important surely? Judging how "hot" someone is and how perfect their body is transitory if there in no humanity/caring there as well .We will all get old hopefully and have friends/lovers who will all get old with us..if all we are/have is a perfect body we will all be disappointed with each other, and as far as I know we all change ,get older and fall apart in some ways. No matter how young you look, if you are 45 you are actually 45 years old ,not 25 ,and the difference in those years should be reflected in the growth of your personality. The idea of some frends who are trying to recapture their youth by desperate measures is saddening if there is nothing else but looking young , and quite often "Gay World" makes us feel ,this is all that is important .The hope one has , to be seen as someone who still matters is dismaying,if age can't be celebrated as well.as youth. I have some friends who take hours getting ready to go out to clubs,and come back disappointed and know of old an acquaintance who took a change of clothes to sit in a coffee shop window ,as he worried he wasn't hot enough.to matter anymore .......perhaps as the song goes "growing old but feeling younger "is the thing we should aim for Peace to everyone ,gs



    Wow that is some deep stuff!! I can certainly appreciate insight as a very intelligent and sexy quality in a man of any age! I really enjoy reading this kind of threads on RJ!! thank you!!


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