No Christmas Spirit

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    Dec 14, 2009 2:03 PM GMT
    An unfortunate thing? A bad thing? Scrooge?

    I am totally disconnected from Christmas,,,,,,the concept, the activities, the decorations, the gift giving, the singing.....all of it.

    Not religious. Can't get into the commercialism.

    Its a good excuse for fun parties tho.

    I don't understand why we need christmas to sing about peace on earth and being sweet to people. After the holidays are over, the temporary goodness is usually gone. Shouldn't everyday be cause for celebration of the spirit of christmas?

    Don't get me wrong. I don't think Christmas is bullshit. Its good to see people at least pausing in their lives (if you can call it a pause..lol) to remember all that good stuff, and brotherhood but .......

    I do help out with toys for tots and other stuff that involves children, because I think for kids, Christmas is truly a wonderful time and I guess I share their spirit too. And for some adults, its a time to do things with each other and their families, but.......

    I used to feel somewhat guilty or worried about not having christmas spirit. But now I don't even feel that. I'm fine feeling practically nothing.

    Just not impressed with the whole christmas thing. Anyone else?
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    Dec 14, 2009 2:10 PM GMT
    We somewhat at different ends of the spectrum, my friend.

    But there isn't anything wrong with whatever we think or feel about it, provided we are comfortable. Your points are well taken, we should always extend a hand at any time of year. The "Christmas spirit" should always be practiced... everyday. Just this morning the headline in the Wichita Eagle,
    "Warehouse of toys stolen from charity".... pretty sad.

    Just know, at this time of year or any time of the year, I'm happy that
    you are here and sharing with us.

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    Dec 14, 2009 2:24 PM GMT
    I've been in the christmas mood/spirit since october.

    and i would play christmas music all year round if i could....

    i just volunteered with the partnership for the homeless for their children's christmas party on saturday...

    to see the wonder on children's faces over a little toy and a meal and an obviously fake santa. to see the other volunteers wrapping gifts and decorating the room for the kids... it brings back to you what christmas is supposed to be all about - sharing/giving of yourself.
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    Dec 14, 2009 2:31 PM GMT
    I haven't the christmas spirit this year, I haven't even bothered putting the tree up, Christmas is kinda over with now days for me.. same as my birthday.. it's just not something I have any interest in celebrating anymore.
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    Dec 14, 2009 2:33 PM GMT
    Same here, but am plugging along. Tree is half up, cleaned house yesterday, haven't listened to any music. Just feel like I'm hungover and nauseous with no reason. Maybe I just need to poop...icon_neutral.gif
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    Dec 14, 2009 2:46 PM GMT
    Totally get where you're coming from, KP.

    I'm often sickened by the amount of zeal some people display when discussing Christmas. Far too much emphasis seems to be placed on the commercial and material aspects of the holiday/event these days. Veritably vomit-inducing, in my opinion.

    Why not donate all that frivolous spending money to a legitimate charity, where it will be spent on dramatically improving the lives of hundreds of individuals, rather than wasting it on a gift for a person who probably doesn't even need what they're receiving? Call me Scrooge, but I reckon Christmas is a total waste of time, energy and resources.

    Cue the impending denigration. Goodness knows I deserve it after that rant... icon_neutral.gif
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    Dec 14, 2009 2:47 PM GMT
    KissingPro, we both owe you so many small kindnesses; perhaps this will help.

    For us, this is a time of beginning. What we do and feel and share at this time of year is a springboard or re-charge of compassionate energy we carry with us through the year ahead.

    Thinking in this way has us not feeling any letdown at Christmas; we think of it as the initial take-off of a jet, it gets us up into the air for the 365 day flight ahead.


    -us guys


    ...or imagine (without religion or commercialism) your stocking being filled with small kindnesses to hand out to people around you for the next year.
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    Dec 14, 2009 2:49 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidI haven't the christmas spirit this year, I haven't even bothered putting the tree up, Christmas is kinda over with now days for me.. same as my birthday.. it's just not something I have any interest in celebrating anymore.


    Well it's hot where you are so I can certainly understand that icon_biggrin.gif
    It's like what 200F???. I can't quite imagine singing frosty the snow man or white christmas where u are.... icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 14, 2009 3:58 PM GMT
    For us, the holiday season is more a defense against the dark and gloom. Both of us struggle w/ S.A.D. We enjoy having the lights up, and seeing other people's lights. We love coming home to the smell of the fresh tree. We really like the music. We enjoy seeing family.

    But, the holidays have always been a significant part of our traditions.
  • masculumpedes

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    Dec 14, 2009 4:06 PM GMT
    The holidays were always a part of my tradition when I was younger. These days, Christmas is just a day off from work.....icon_neutral.gif
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    Dec 14, 2009 5:09 PM GMT
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    Dec 14, 2009 5:19 PM GMT
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  • JP85257

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    Dec 14, 2009 5:30 PM GMT
    Its hard for me to get in to the christmas spirit at all these days because of being so involved in it owning a flower shop. At this point I pay people to have the christmas spirit.
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    Dec 14, 2009 5:48 PM GMT
    KissingPro saidAn unfortunate thing? A bad thing? Scrooge?

    I am totally disconnected from Christmas,,,,,,the concept, the activities, the decorations, the gift giving, the singing.....all of it.

    Not religious. Can't get into the commercialism.

    Its a good excuse for fun parties tho.

    I don't understand why we need christmas to sing about peace on earth and being sweet to people. After the holidays are over, the temporary goodness is usually gone. Shouldn't everyday be cause for celebration of the spirit of christmas?

    Don't get me wrong. I don't think Christmas is bullshit. Its good to see people at least pausing in their lives (if you can call it a pause..lol) to remember all that good stuff, and brotherhood but .......

    I do help out with toys for tots and other stuff that involves children, because I think for kids, Christmas is truly a wonderful time and I guess I share their spirit too. And for some adults, its a time to do things with each other and their families, but.......

    I used to feel somewhat guilty or worried about not having christmas spirit. But now I don't even feel that. I'm fine feeling practically nothing.

    Just not impressed with the whole christmas thing. Anyone else?


    You're one of the smart ones.

    1. You don't subscribe to false belief systems.
    2. You're not manipulated by marketing.

    Smart person. Good for you.
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    Dec 14, 2009 5:50 PM GMT
    I think you need a dose of pre-Christmas cheer to get you into the Holiday mood.

    Yes, and I have a cure for that. I've been hanging around Daddy Santa for a while, and he targets guys like you, as his unique challenges on Xmas eve.

    He hopes that you can shake the blues ahead of time. He spreads his Xmas good cheer in small doses so that he can give all his naughty and nice hotties that unexpected surprise.

    So just get over the commercialism that overwhelms you in the upcoming countdown to Xmas, think small, and I am sure that Daddy Santa will be stopping by and filling your stocking with something warm and wonderful.
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    Dec 14, 2009 6:26 PM GMT
    KissingPro saidDon't get me wrong. I don't think Christmas is bullshit. Its good to see people at least pausing in their lives (if you can call it a pause..lol) to remember all that good stuff, and brotherhood but .......

    Your observation is not a new one. I'm reminded of the scene between Scooge and the Spirit of Christmas Present. This script excerpt from the 1951 movie version deviates from the original Dickens, but it makes the point here of what the Christmas spirit CAN mean. Not that I'm the least bit religious myself, but I recognize nobler human aspirations when I encounter them, whether motivated by beliefs in a Christ Child or something else. I'm less interested in the means than the results.

    I'd rather see people behaving with love & kindness for at least 1 month out of the year, than never at all. And in the hope that it will become habit forming, and a model we want to follow always.

    This video clip with the great Alistair Sim, BTW, cannot be embedded. The part matching to the script excerpt below is found at about 6:00.

    SCROOGE: I'm too old, I'm beyond hope. Go and redeem some younger, more promising creature, and leave me to keep Christmas in my own way.

    SPIRIT: Mortal! We spirits of Christmas do not live only one day of the year; we live the whole three hundred and sixty-five. So is it true of the Child born in Bethlehem. He does not live in men's hearts only one day of the year, but in all the days of the year.

    You have chosen not to seek Him in your heart. Therefore, you shall come with me, and seek Him in the hearts of men of Good Will.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VErVw0MWJ-E
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    Dec 14, 2009 6:37 PM GMT
    Some of you guys need a good beating... a good fucking is too good for you.

    Oh woe is me! Oh I can't find a man! Oh I don't feel the spirit!
    When will it ever end, damnit!

    Life is what you make it!

    Such a bunch of tired whiney bitches!!!!!!icon_evil.gif

    Truly there's nothing gay about being gay icon_exclaim.gificon_exclaim.gificon_evil.gif
  • masculumpedes

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    Dec 14, 2009 6:44 PM GMT
    Blondizgd said

    Truly there's nothing gay about being gay


    Of course there is ...52.gif
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    Dec 14, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
    Blondizgd said...Truly there's nothing gay about being gay icon_exclaim.gificon_exclaim.gificon_evil.gif

    I beg your pardon, Blondi-guy? There is EVERYTHING gay about being gay.

    Yeah, these guys have their reflective private moments, when they think dark thoughts. But at least they're capable of thinking, and having some semblance of personal insight.

    Better that, than the brutish unthinking straight brain activity I witness in that other parallel universe to ours. I'll take a little honest angst now & then, to the auto-pilot mentalities that surround us.

    OK, I'll grant a little too much self-absorption is unhealthy, and I know sometimes a gay weakness. But I think a fair question & topic in this case. And nothing that diminishes from the pure joy of being gay.
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    Dec 14, 2009 7:27 PM GMT
    Christmas is practically the day with the shortest daylight of the year. In northern latitudes it's practically a perpetual night, a time of year traditionally when nothing productive can be done so people are incredibly bored. Obviously the holiday was timed to cheer people up from the gloominess, to make them get out of the house and connect with other people. It really is the right time of the year to connect up with family, friends, and the community, people you don't have time for when the weather was better and everyone was busy.

    Now, that's a totally non-religious interpretation of Christmas. I do feel that people are more cheerful and nicer to each other around this time, which is a manifestation of renewal. Even though modern technology erases the gloominess and the idleness of the season, I think we still need the seasonal rhythm to renew ourselves and avoid burning out.
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    Dec 14, 2009 7:29 PM GMT
    woofydude saidI think you need a dose of pre-Christmas cheer to get you into the Holiday mood.

    Yes, and I have a cure for that. I've been hanging around Daddy Santa for a while, and he targets guys like you, as his unique challenges on Xmas eve.

    He spreads his Xmas good cheer in small doses so that he can give all his naughty and nice hotties that unexpected surprise.

    So just get over the commercialism that overwhelms you in the upcoming countdown to Xmas, think small, and I am sure that Daddy Santa will be stopping by and filling your stocking with something warm and wonderful.


    icon_razz.gifYes....I'm over the overwhelming commercialism! I'm thinking small!!. I'm there!!icon_razz.gif

    RVespa..."people behaving with love and kindess at least once month out of the year in the hope it will became habit forming.....that's so damn true.

    Meninlove....a springboard or re-charge of the energy carried throughout the year...an initial takeoff for the 365 days of flight ahead...I never thought of it that way, what a great perspective!

    And Sahem62896....that Grinch....with that look on his face and the hands on the hips......It scared the crap out of me and reminds me of some of the guys I meet.I would rather suffer through putting up (and taking down) a freakin christmas tree than listening for 5 minutes to that Grinch scolding me..yikes!
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    Dec 14, 2009 7:32 PM GMT
    Scrooge + the Grinch x dispassionate disinterest = me.
  • Webster666

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    Dec 14, 2009 7:43 PM GMT
    I used to love it.
    Now, it's just another day.
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    Dec 14, 2009 8:04 PM GMT

    I know, I'm in a mushroom place this year: a dark aloof creation maybe, but a body to connect the season with none the less. It's funny because last night I was watching a Christmas program and a running theme was the inclusion of the mushroom amongst the lore. I can accept that, I'd rather frolic amongst a subterranean mushroom land than a winter wonder one anyway.
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    Dec 14, 2009 8:06 PM GMT
    Well I have the Christmas spirit with me all though the year. I have a smile on my face, and a song in my voice, and all the old lady's just love me; because nothing is to much trouble.

    But I've started to have Christmas off, and leave it to the masses, I retreat to my garden for the silly season.

    I've not sang in one christmas chorus this year, not done one bit of Christmas shopping, not open one Christmas Card; I'll start to celebrate on Boxing day, when Christmas is over and done with. But the Christmas I do celebrate is very personal, and private; but thats not on the 25th day of December, and when all the Christmas sprite is gone, and the Easter Eggs come out, I come out of my garden, and do my thing for the rest of the year; putting a smile on another's face.