Is the new Movie Avatar Going to flop?

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    Dec 14, 2009 4:16 PM GMT
    Estimates are they spent 300 million to over 500 million on this movie. Fox wont say how much they financially contributed except to say it is the their most expensive movie they have ever invested in. I dont think the general population is that interested in it to be honest. I think it might be the biggest flop in history. Well maybe not the biggest flop but I dont think it is going to do to well. Anyone else have any thoughts on this or am I completely wrong?
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    Dec 14, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
    I like what I've seen of it thus far

    Big corporation raping the earth
    Killing off aliens/minorities

    Minorities/aliens put up a fight

    Interracial sex.. eh inter species sex

    Sounds great movie telling to me
  • Timbales

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    Dec 14, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
    I think it will at least break even before it hits DVD.
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    Dec 14, 2009 4:58 PM GMT
    I expect it to gross over 200 million in just this month. It will not flop, but it won't be Titanic either. Even if it doesn't gross much here in the states, it will surpass 700 million worldwide.
  • MercuryMax

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    Dec 14, 2009 6:12 PM GMT
    Yes.
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    Dec 14, 2009 6:23 PM GMT
    I highly doubt it will. It's been well-reviewed and wonderfully received by those who have watched it so far. A lot of people reckoned it was mind-blowing. It should have a worldwide gross in the high hundred millions or low billions lol. I hope to get the chance to see it this Friday.
  • Celticmusl

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    Dec 14, 2009 6:29 PM GMT
    I hope the storyline is not as simplistic as the previews make it appear to be. I've seen that same storyline in about....hmmm.....50 star trek franchise episodes.... especially TNG.
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    Dec 14, 2009 6:31 PM GMT

    If I can't score a date to fondle for the duration, I won't be going.
    It strikes me as the kind of picture you need that.



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    Dec 14, 2009 6:46 PM GMT
    I don't think it will be a flop.
    James Cameron... doesn't really.. make "flops".

    Also, this movie will perhaps mark a monumental shift in cinema, regardless of what the actual film is; as it represents the "future" of the cinematic experience. New projectors are sent to movie theatres everywhere JUST for this movie, the technology behind it is groundbreaking, and this will likely represent a new... phase.

    If it flops... the whole movement of technology, money, and the like, flop with it; or at least face a major set back. I can't quite picture that happening.
  • mellowmuscle

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    Dec 14, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
    It won't flop IMHO. People were saying the same thing way back before Titanic came out (coincidentally by the same director) saying it was a troubled production because it was so expensive and spiraling out of control. The media likes to play up the negativity and hype when the expectations are so high. At the least, the movie will open huge and will do big numbers overseas where action and spectacle matter more than story anyways.

    I for one am excited to be seeing it - I purchased IMAX tickets for opening day, minutes after getting an email alert. It comes from an experienced film-making team, it's James Cameron's first scripted film since Titanic, and the effects are supposed to be revolutionary. I've even avoided watching the trailers and commercials so that it will all be as fresh as possible when I take it in for the first time. Looking forward to good a cinematic experience.
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    Dec 14, 2009 6:50 PM GMT
    considering they 're spending over $200 million JUST in publicity , i expect it to
    attain a certain success.
    I don't know how the game is doing.

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    Dec 14, 2009 6:56 PM GMT
    From the trailers I've seen, this movie looks boring and cliche. If you watch a lot of sci-fi and anime, then there's nothing new here in terms of plot.

    However, I don't think this movie will flop. It's a James Cameron movie. People will see it for the hype and of course for the special effects.

    Another thing to add is that profitability is not an accurate measure of success when it comes to movies. Because Hollywood has their own special accounting methods. icon_confused.gif
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    Dec 14, 2009 7:14 PM GMT
    No real opinion on this movie yet. I thought the Cameron quote that "Wired" came up with this morning was fun. From an email, when they thought that "Titanic" was flopping:

    “I just realized I made a $200 million chick flick where everyone dies. What the hell was I thinking?”

    Anyway, Cliche' can still be fun. In fact, when Lucas was finishing up "Star Wars," he was worried that he might have missed a profitable cliche or two, and had Joseph Campbell (The Power of Myth) review it to make sure they were all there.
  • Barricade

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    Dec 14, 2009 7:16 PM GMT
    It won't flop. The effects look amazing! What critics say aren't that important either, they trashed Transformers 2 and it still did great at the box office. Plus Sam Worthington is reason enough to see it alone.
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    Dec 14, 2009 7:24 PM GMT
    I hope it doesn't flop. I haven't read any reviews or watched any recent trailers just so be influenced by the hype. Want to watch it without expectations.

    I have to wait 2 weeks after it's released to go see it with a friend. icon_sad.gif that's too long of a wait.
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Dec 14, 2009 7:27 PM GMT
    Don't know. I've got my doubts on the quality of the film as I thoroughly disliked James Cameron's previous magnum opus, Titanic. However, in terms of success, Avatar's a well-hyped film, it's being released during our Christmas fantasy period (LotR helped make this the time of year to release and watch fantasy flicks), and the general media appears to love it and its next generation film techniques.

    Yet, it's also a film about blue, cat-like aliens, so there's always a chance it won't do well.

    No bets on my part.
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    Dec 14, 2009 8:05 PM GMT
    First, the studio was convinced that Titanic was going to be the biggest flop ever made. They thought that from over a year prior to release until more than a week after it opened. Cameron had to sign away his profits to complete it.

    Avatar is not only in 3D (new film making process but similar viewing process as 'Up' and 'Monsters vs. Aliens'). The money from the technical developments will be significant though not as much as box office and DVD/Blu-ray sales.

    Cameron's movies always have multiple endings. (Aliens, True Lies, Abyss, Terminator 1 & 2) Usually about halfway through the movie, you think it's the end and yet there's more. He's actually good at this (though I find it a little annoying).

    Theaters will complain that it's too long (it will be very long). It will end up making more people stand in line.

    Things blow up and spectacular battle scenes = millions of teenage boys in the audience.

    Strong female heroine and 'fantasy love story' = millions of teenage girls in the audience.

    Great SFX = millions of geeks and fan-con participants in the audience.

    Hot military personnel = gay boys in the audience.

    Tough girl marine character in prominent role = lesbians in the audience.

    I think it will do OK.
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    Dec 14, 2009 8:31 PM GMT
    I saw the preview the other day and it looks fun to me.
    I'll totally go see it!
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    Dec 14, 2009 8:37 PM GMT
    bgcat57 saidFirst, the studio was convinced that Titanic was going to be the biggest flop ever made.

    Strong female heroine and 'fantasy love story' = millions of teenage girls in the audience.

    Hot military personnel = gay boys in the audience.



    i've yet to see titanic- well I do not have any intentions of ever seeing it, to be honest.

    back to avatar : count me in for the hot military personnel. that guy who plays the lead military personnel baddie is a hottie. i would do him. hmmmmmmm i wonder if he wants to get done...
  • Timbales

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    Dec 14, 2009 8:40 PM GMT
    The impact of Avatar is going to be how the tech that was developed to create the film is used in the future. They can do a do a realistic and lifelike human with this technology.

    Let's say a director is doing a film where you have a character age from 16 to 50 over the course of the movie. They can use the same actor to play the character the whole way through using this tech, and it would be seamless - no bad make-up and wigs, etc. Actors that have been in the industry long enough have a visual archive for reference.
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    Dec 14, 2009 8:45 PM GMT
    Timberoo said

    Let's say a director is doing a film where you have a character age from 16 to 50 over the course of the movie. They can use the same actor to play the character the whole way through using this tech, and it would be seamless - no bad make-up and wigs, etc.


    Geeze, techo, crack a book, venture outside.

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    Dec 14, 2009 8:46 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    Timberoo said

    Let's say a director is doing a film where you have a character age from 16 to 50 over the course of the movie. They can use the same actor to play the character the whole way through using this tech, and it would be seamless - no bad make-up and wigs, etc.


    Geeze, techo, crack a book, venture outside.



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    Dec 14, 2009 8:56 PM GMT

    I know baby...I wanted to suggest something else, but I know you tire of me stalking you.



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    Dec 14, 2009 8:57 PM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    I know baby...I wanted to suggest something else, but I know you tire of me stalking you.



    never

    someday I hope you sneak up behind me in a parking lot, chloroform me and carry me away to be your personal love monkey
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    Dec 14, 2009 9:01 PM GMT
    I dont think it will flop, but it won't sink Titanic either. It's getting rave reviews so far and people who saw it already absolutely love it. So it might find a mainstream audiance.