Nerd Alert: 787 first flight and test program updates

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    Dec 15, 2009 8:37 AM GMT
    It has nothing to do with gay, or sports or fitness, but a shout out to all the plane geeks and nerds: the 787 is supposed to finally take flight tomorrow morning (Tue).

    Boeing has a simulcast that starts at 9:40am PST.

    http://787firstflight.newairplane.com/ffindex.html

    Click on the rather subtle "Webcast" title text on the upper right hand side. I hope they've bought enough bandwidth!
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    Dec 15, 2009 8:58 AM GMT
    Well, given my user name here - I'll be ready, waiting and excited !!!

    Thanks for posting this -- and, yeah, big nerd here! icon_biggrin.gif

  • czkiwi

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    Dec 15, 2009 11:59 AM GMT
    I can't wait to fly on it!
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    Dec 15, 2009 12:05 PM GMT
    That thing has been delayed more times than a Microsoft Windows release. Have they chosen a replacement pilot, following Wilbur Wright's death? icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 15, 2009 12:07 PM GMT
    I'm actually psyched to see this thing get off the ground too! It's going to be a real advance in flight technology!
  • DCEric

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    Dec 15, 2009 12:27 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidThat thing has been delayed more times than a Microsoft Windows release. Have they chosen a replacement pilot, following Wilbur Wright's death? icon_razz.gif


    haha.
    /I'm excited.
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    Dec 15, 2009 12:40 PM GMT
    Delayed for a reason - the whole fuselage is composite, and there are some significant additional challenges to be overcome. Not the least is delamination - they have to run an ultrasound machine over the airplane to tell if it's in good working order. But it's a real leap forward, and I'm excited. Airbus keeps calling it "irresponsible" to include as much composite as Boeing has. To that I say:

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    Dec 15, 2009 1:24 PM GMT
    Thanks for posting... yeah, I can't wait... glad I'm working from home today.
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    Dec 15, 2009 1:39 PM GMT
    Thanks for sharing. I wasn't sure what time it started.
  • LuckyPierre

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    Dec 15, 2009 4:25 PM GMT
    Nice!
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    Dec 15, 2009 5:07 PM GMT
    About damn time. I was beginnig to think this was an imaginary thing just like the country known as Canada icon_biggrin.gif
  • Celticmusl

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    Dec 15, 2009 5:20 PM GMT
    C'mon people, it runs on good thoughts. If we all think good thoughts it will be sure to take off. Oh Santa, you do exist, you do exist!
  • LuckyPierre

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    Dec 15, 2009 5:50 PM GMT
    Surprise surprise... it's late! LMAO
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    Dec 15, 2009 5:56 PM GMT
    Broadcast just started. The spokesperson is cute!
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    Dec 15, 2009 5:57 PM GMT
    Another live video blog, also from a cute blogger:

    http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/flightblogger/

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    Dec 15, 2009 5:58 PM GMT
    Any Boeing people (current or former) here on RJ?
  • LuckyPierre

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    Dec 15, 2009 6:24 PM GMT
    Used to live in Seattle so I have a lot of friends that have worked there.

    This is pretty exciting... I've been flying the 787 in Airline Manager on FB for a couple months now!
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    Dec 15, 2009 6:33 PM GMT
    Well, she's airborne! Yay! I got a little misty-eyed there.
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    Dec 15, 2009 6:34 PM GMT
    *grinning from ear to ear*
    This HAS to be the CUTEST thread EVER!!
    (Sorry... cute in a very butch, masc, manly, studly, mans man, kinda way)

    Can someone please give me a paragraph of aeronautic jargon? It's not tech talk but for some reason I think it will make my morning memorable. icon_idea.gif
  • Little_Spoon

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    Dec 15, 2009 6:39 PM GMT
    Have you seen Titanic?
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    Dec 15, 2009 6:55 PM GMT
    very exciting!
  • DuggerPDX

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    Dec 15, 2009 7:17 PM GMT
    Awesome!

    You can check out the video on my blog:

    http://davaulttravel.blogspot.com/

    (blatant self promotion...)
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    Dec 16, 2009 4:17 AM GMT
    EasilyDistracted said*grinning from ear to ear*
    This HAS to be the CUTEST thread EVER!!
    (Sorry... cute in a very butch, masc, manly, studly, mans man, kinda way)

    Can someone please give me a paragraph of aeronautic jargon? It's not tech talk but for some reason I think it will make my morning memorable. icon_idea.gif


    Well, it's not morning anymore, but...

    Following flutter testing, Boeing will begin phase one of low-speed stability and control (S&C) testing and validation of the primary flight control system. Early in phase one, ZA001 will work to expand the lower part of the flight envelope by conducting stall tests at various gross weights. The goal of phase one is to establish the firm configuration of the aircraft before entering into the certification campaign.
  • offshore

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    Dec 16, 2009 4:22 AM GMT
    I'm more drawn to Airbus (being a European), but I do like Boeings too! My Hotmail handle has got '747' in it.

    Nice fly 787!
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    Dec 16, 2009 4:40 AM GMT
    offshore saidI'm more drawn to Airbus (being a European), but I do like Boeings too! My Hotmail handle has got '747' in it.

    Nice fly 787!


    I love Airbus too -- they both have excellent products. The A320 was really a huge leap in technology, with the glass cockpit, fly by wire, joystick, and software innovations. Boeing really had to play catch up with that one.

    But I think the A350 is a middling response to the more radical approach of the 787 (i.e. bolting carbon fiber panels to a more traditional structure versus rolling the hole fuselage on a barrel shaped mandrel and baking it in a giant plane-sized oven). And even that approach was forced on them by customers who thought the early A350 designs were completely inadequate compared to the 78. I was disappointed in their conservative response to the 78, especially when you consider the scare they gave Boeing with the A320 -- that plane is the reason why they are now the largest commercial aircraft manufacturer, so I was expecting a bit more "umph." But I think the problem was that all the engineers were allocated to the 380 and the A400, both millstones around Airbus' neck.

    You have to respect the engineering effort of the A380, altho I still can't believe that the French and German engineers couldn't agree to use the same CAD system and royally fucked the program. Even if that hadn't happened, I think it's going to be one of the biggest product planning mistakes of modern history. It looks like they really badly misjudged the market for that plane. With all the delays and overruns, they are going to lose money on every A380 for the next 20 years. Oy. At least Boeing has the freighter market to have a shot at the 747-8 program turning a profit. The 78 has an order book which will make that program a huge success, even with all the cancellations. The A350 has a respectable book too, but of course, we have no idea what the future holds for that program's costs and delays, so it's hard to say what the breakeven order count will be.

    I think the only hope for Airbus, as far as financial health goes over the next couple decades is to beat Boeing to the punch on a redesigned single-aisle. But of course, that hinges primarily on the power plant companies, who aren't there yet. Altho Pratt's geared turbofan for the regional jets (including the new Russian one!) is looking pretty awesome. I'm betting they'll scale that design up in thrust and be the first in the game for a re-engined 73 and A320 as the first step to revamping those two revenue workhorses.

    Uh oh. I might have over-geeked there.

    * blinks *