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    Dec 18, 2009 3:22 AM GMT
    Why cant the Unites States army be as organized and good as North Korea....?? Let me hear your thoughts...as after watching this video..i now see why America will not fuck with Kim Jong-il. These people really love their leader...and will kill for him..

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    Dec 18, 2009 5:26 AM GMT
    I don't think a grandiose parade is an accurate way to measure a nation's military power, nor the level of patriotism. We really don't know the true feelings of those North Korean soldiers. Most of them are probably "forced" into service anyways.

    If you really want to see something awesome, check out the Marine Corps Silent Drill Platoon. Not my video, but I was lucky to see them perform in person. Fuckin amazing.

  • Webster666

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    Dec 18, 2009 7:18 AM GMT
    And, how does all that precision marching around in unison, benefit you when you're face to face with the enemy ?
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    Dec 18, 2009 12:45 PM GMT
    well i was looking at it from a point of view of...these individuals are well coordinated and work in sync (the whole army) and mind you this is not just for a parade...this is how they are once they are in uniform, they have a huge pride for their country and actually feel pride to be in the army. For American troops however, sorry to say but future soldiers only enlist because there's nothing else for them to do/ no planned future prospects so their heart is not in it 100 percent...they enlist only for a paycheck......can you honestly say that the American troops behave that way....saying "o i have to sign up because i love my country and i have to protect".even though they dont know what they fighting for most of the time......no they are singing up because they want to feed their families and see the army as the only way....thats the diff between the American Army and the North Koren Army. In North Korea they know what and who they are fighting for....Like i think one would be totally blind to not see how much of a challenge taking on the North Korean army would be in battle.
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    Dec 18, 2009 1:51 PM GMT
    I'll be sure to pass your cynical thoughts on to my buddy, who after 2 tours (one in Iraq) as a Marine decided to enlist in the Army and is now in Afghanistan fighting for his country and so you can continue to be a total mess.
  • TexanMan82

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    Dec 18, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
    That's rich. The U.S. Military would demolish the North Korean military. But, you keep being mesmerized by those fancy steps.
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    Dec 18, 2009 6:52 PM GMT
    hmm whoever disagree can continue living in dreamland as the facts are there and states the truth. The rich or the Privilege don't sign up to join in the American Army so say what you must about me being cynical. Its the people who see getting an education by enlisting sign up. The persons who want to save up to better themselves join up. They are not joining up to fight. The govt know how to exploit young people and they have been doing it for years. Look at it from this point of view.....sign up, so that in return ill give you some benefits--( which i believe they should already have since they are Americans) and all you have to do it fight. Mind you..some of these individuals dont even get to cash out.
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    Dec 18, 2009 6:54 PM GMT
    I am beginning to seriously doubt your dedication to sparkle motion.
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    Dec 18, 2009 7:10 PM GMT
    tereseus1 saidhmm whoever disagree can continue living in dreamland as the facts are there and states the truth. The rich or the Privilege don't sign up to join in the American Army so say what you must about me being cynical. Its the people who see getting an education by enlisting sign up. The persons who want to save up to better themselves join up. They are not joining up to fight. The govt know how to exploit young people and they have been doing it for years. Look at it from this point of view.....sign up, so that in return ill give you some benefits--( which i believe they should already have since they are Americans) and all you have to do it fight. Mind you..some of these individuals dont even get to cash out.


    Of course, you're going to cite your sources for your claims, correct?

    Here, I'll help you out a bit

    http://www.heritage.org/research/nationalsecurity/cda05-08.cfm

    Seems like someone needs to stop stereotyping our nation's military and actually pull his head out to see the facts.
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    Dec 18, 2009 7:18 PM GMT
    tereseus1 said...The rich or the Privilege don't sign up to join in the American Army so say what you must about me being cynical.

    I was rich & privileged when I enlisted in the US Army, as an ordinary Private during the Vietnam War. I would say you are more misinformed than you are cynical.

    As for marching like robots, that is their weakness, not their strength. It may have been a strength in the warfare of the distant past, up until the US Civil War, when soldiers still did full frontal assaults and moved forward shoulder-to-shoulder.

    Today's soldier on the modern battlefield must be able to independently move, shoot and communicate, and to quickly make autonomous decisions, down to the lowest ranks. Waiting to be told what to do at every turn gets you killed, and battles lost. And it makes your leaders your Achilles heel, for if they get killed or wounded, then you stop functioning effectively.

    US soldiers & Marines are taught to assume authority on the battlefield in turn, when senior leaders become casualties. And so do our NATO allies. The North Koreans possess this ability to a much lesser degree, meaning that the casualty percentage at which point their forces will collapse is significantly lower than other modern armies.

    In other words, they can't sustain significant losses before they stop fighting altogether, whereas other armies can take heavier losses and keep fighting. They are, simply, a house of cards, that hopes to use overwhelming numbers alone to defeat their enemies. With today's battlefield technology, that is a fatally outdated strategy.
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    Dec 18, 2009 8:36 PM GMT
    tereseus1 saidwell i was looking at it from a point of view of...these individuals are well coordinated and work in sync (the whole army) and mind you this is not just for a parade...this is how they are once they are in uniform, they have a huge pride for their country and actually feel pride to be in the army. For American troops however, sorry to say but future soldiers only enlist because there's nothing else for them to do/ no planned future prospects so their heart is not in it 100 percent...they enlist only for a paycheck......can you honestly say that the American troops behave that way....saying "o i have to sign up because i love my country and i have to protect".even though they dont know what they fighting for most of the time......no they are singing up because they want to feed their families and see the army as the only way....thats the diff between the American Army and the North Koren Army. In North Korea they know what and who they are fighting for....Like i think one would be totally blind to not see how much of a challenge taking on the North Korean army would be in battle.

    The US doesn't want to attack/invade North Korea for political reasons, not because the US fears their precision marching abilities. LOL.

    Different people have different reasons for joining the military. Some do it out of necessity because they come from a poor background. Some do it out of patriotism. Some do it just for the experience. But regardless of the reason, they do give 100%. Because anything less could endanger your own life as well as those around you during battle.
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    Dec 19, 2009 2:23 AM GMT
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  • TexanMan82

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    Dec 19, 2009 9:17 AM GMT
    Well, tereseus....are you going to come back and at least TRY and defend your position?