True or False

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    Jan 02, 2008 5:07 PM GMT
    Waiting one hour after working out to eat anything is a great way to burn fat.
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    Jan 02, 2008 7:36 PM GMT
    If I remember correctly, the answer is a two parter:
    1. Short term, Yes.
    2. Long term , No.
    Eating healthy foods, right after a workout will feed the muscles as they go into repair mode. This means that although you'll burn a little less fat immediately, over a longer period of time you'll be feeding the muscles (and thereby raise your metabolism) which will burn fat for a longer period of time.
    Short term starvation causes your body to burn fat immediately, but then go into a 'saving' mode where it will burn less fat later, thereby defeating the purpose.

    This is why, if over the period of one day, you consume 3000 calories of protein, carbs and a small amount of fat, the weight (fat) loss is more effective if you consume that food in 6 small meals rather than 3 larger meals.

    When I first started working out, I lost 50 lbs in 9 months and I was eating almost twice as many calories as I had before I started.

    "The engine doesn't burn fat, if you don't give it fuel."

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    Jan 02, 2008 8:47 PM GMT
    Good post^

    However, even 3k calories for me is too much. I keep it around 1500 - 2000 for weight loss.

    And damn is hard to eat on a schedule like that.
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    Jan 02, 2008 9:30 PM GMT
    I should clarify that I chose 3000 calories as an arbitrary amount as an example.
    It just happens that it was the minimum I was consuming during my initial weight loss. Any less and I started to loose too fast and I didn't want the skin issues associated with loosing weight too fast.
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    Jan 02, 2008 10:46 PM GMT
    No expert here (I should change my RJ name to Noexpert because that is the phrase I seem to use the most), but after a workout I down an 8 oz glass of whey protein and that keeps me full for quite a while. I wonder what the real fitness guys on here think of that?
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    Jan 02, 2008 10:49 PM GMT
    So bgcat..when you say "Short term starvation causes your body to burn fat immediately" are you talking about those time when I don't eat breakfast and just have a small amount of lunch? So I should eat a little in the morning to old me over...and more mid day, then lunch, snack, dinner...etc?

    I'm not a heavy eater to begin with so eating 6 times a day would be tough for me.
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    Jan 02, 2008 10:54 PM GMT
    uhh..false!

    right? false! am I right?

    what did I win?
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    Jan 02, 2008 11:10 PM GMT
    I've also heard that if you're going to eat something essentially unhealthy (ice cream?), that it is "better" to eat if right after a hard workout.

    I suppose the logic is that your body will burn those empty calories instead of storing them as fat?

    Any truth here or just wishful thinking?
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    Jan 02, 2008 11:27 PM GMT
    logic would hold to true to that.

    And breakfast is by far the most important meal. It gets you metabolism started for the day. Starvation is the worst thing for weight loss.

    Eating six times a day is difficult, but best. Picture it as a fire, that you are constantly fueling.

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    Jan 03, 2008 1:47 AM GMT
    The '6 times a day' thing isn't a sit down meal necessarily. It could be a protein bar, fruit, some wholewheat bread or something like that.

    As for breakfast as n8dagrt said (and to build on it) your biggest meals should be early in the day and become lighter as the day goes on.

    As to USMmmm's ice cream idea, you are correct sir! However, even though your metabolism will deal with the junk better, it's still junk and not effective as a muscle building food.
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    Jan 03, 2008 5:39 AM GMT
    So why is it that when I have something like an english muffin with some peanut butter in the morning with my cup of coffee that by 10 AM I'm starving and ready to binge eat anything in site...but if I fore go the muffin, I'm fine until lunchish time....

    I feel like I eat so many more calories by eating early in the morning...I guess I need to watch what I eat... oatmeal in the morning...love oatmeal then some fruit mid day....go from there.
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    Jan 03, 2008 6:11 AM GMT
    like they said before, its like a fire you need to keep fueling. when you do eat breakfast, you have kick-started your metabolism which is why you feel hungry at 10am. given that it's best to eat 6 small meals a day, it's ok that you get hungry earlier than lunch time. you should have another meal at that time (a small one like some fruit and cottage cheese, and a cup of green tea or something)

    i've read that its good to drink a warm cup of water as soon as you wake up to get your digestive system warmed up and working. then for breakfast you should eat foods that are high energy. i usually eat some oatmeal soaked in yogurt with a bit of soy milk. add some mixed fruit, and raisins and you're good to go!

    but as for the original question, you definitely need to eat something by 30 minutes after working out as that is the prime "muscle repair" time when your body really needs the nutrients. you might also consider taking something high in antioxidants to keep those "radicals" i think they're called, from destroying your muscle tissue.

    im no expert either, but this is what i've learned so far from reading on this whole nutrition thing
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    Jan 03, 2008 7:08 AM GMT
    Thanks txguy...some helpful hints.
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    Jan 03, 2008 8:42 AM GMT
    Its minutia in the grand scheme of things

    Makes little diference other than may stop you puking if yuo have worked too hard. In fact if you want to keep burning fat you should feed the system little and often.

    Nutritionally some advocate feeding within 1/2 an hour of a workout and will give you all manner of wonderful macro splits and concoctions that are best fo you

    Personally I think you have far bigger issues to deal with than the relaively insignificance of food timimng as what you are consuming in 24 hours is if far greater consequence.

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    Jan 03, 2008 8:44 AM GMT
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    I'm not a heavy eater to begin with so eating 6 times a day would be tough for me.


    This is where so many get put off they assume that a meal means sitting down at a table with a nice plate of food they simply cant face. In reality you could be talking an apple and a glass of milk thats roungly 220 calories
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    Jan 03, 2008 8:45 AM GMT
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    Personally I think you have far bigger issues to deal with than the relaively insignificance of food timimng as what you are consuming in 24 hours is if far greater consequence.



    actually, most sports nutritionists agree that timing is quite important. at least thats the impression i get since i've seen that piece of information stated in across several different sources.
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    Jan 03, 2008 9:04 AM GMT
    txguy1605 said[quote][cite]bfg1 said[/cite]

    Personally I think you have far bigger issues to deal with than the relaively insignificance of food timimng as what you are consuming in 24 hours is if far greater consequence.



    actually, most sports nutritionists agree that timing is quite important. at least thats the impression i get since i've seen that piece of information stated in across several different sources.[/quote]

    nutritional timimng is of far more importance when your diet training hydration and sleep is spot on. Its that taking it to the next level thing.

    For your average weekend gym warrior or someone facing fat loss from obesity its as about as important as to wether to eat a banana or an apple. We know that apples have far nmore vitamins than a banana yet in the grandscale of things over a week, a month or the years ahead that it will take you to get your body fat down to a safe level its pretty unimportant
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    Jan 12, 2008 3:59 AM GMT
    Weight Loss Diet

    So, how can you get rid of those unwanted pounds? Most of the people who are able to lose weight and keep it off, use a two-pronged approach. This approach involves cutting back on calories slightly and increasing physical exercise.

    Let's say your goal is to lose one pound per week. Remember that one pound of stored fat contains 3,500 calories. If you do nothing but cut calories, you will have to eat 500 fewer calories per day to lose one pound a week. For many people, cutting calories this severely is worse than torture, as they feel hungry all of the time and are tempted to cheat.

    But, if you increase your physical activity and by doing so burn an extra 250 calories per day, then you need to cut only 250 calories out of your diet to achieve your weight-loss goal of one pound per week. For the average person, it takes between 25-50 minutes to burn 250 calories.

    ...
    As you begin your weight-loss program, be prepared for a long battle, a battle that is as much psychological as it is physical. Be patient, set realistic goals, enjoy your more active lifestyle, and focus on healthy eating instead of dieting.
    ...
    Not sure how to cut back on calories? Here are a few tips to help prevent unnecessary consumption:


    Avoid eating until "you can't eat another bite." In addition, avoid going too long without food. If you wait to eat until you are "starving," you are likely to have less control over what and how much you eat.

    Eat only when you are hungry. You might be surprised how often you eat for emotional reasons. So, try to be aware of when you are eating to cover up feelings of loneliness, sadness, or anger, and seek an activity besides eating to meet your emotional needs.

    Do not combine eating with other activities, such as reading or watching television. Research indicates that a major cause of weight gain is "unconscious" consumption of food. Many people eat up to 1000 more calories each day than they think they do.

    Never go to the grocery store on an empty stomach. If you shop when you are ravenous, you will be tempted to buy unhealthy foods.

    Slow down! Make mealtimes relaxing and enjoyable. Eat only when sitting down, chew each bite many times, and put your fork down between mouthfuls.

    Drop out of the "clean your plate club." If you are full, it is OK to leave a few bites of food on your plate!


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    Jan 16, 2008 10:34 PM GMT
    some great points there Caslon and I would like to ad to that and detract some of that psycho babble take more chew stuff.

    Eating 500 calories a day less is no biggie, its like any other form of diet progressively eat less and yuor appetite will reduce. Thats one of the key reasons why calorie cycling works more efficiently than a static dietary deficit, especially when you get refeed days.

    I would say tho that yes at times you may feel hungrier but that is more to do with your food choices. learn more about the food you eat tho and you are on to winner.

    Go for density of food for minimal calories.

    Make veg your friend

    Make flavour more important than volume so for cheese if you cant avoid it maximum taste versus minimum amount.

    Its all down to choice tho eat more run more or eat less and train less, so find out what works best for you.

    You've had your cake and eaten it, so what ever way you look at it sacrifice is now needed