Sobbing about Saab

  • metta

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    Dec 19, 2009 3:07 AM GMT

    always liked the look of those cars, especially the convertable with the real wood trim. It has always had a classic look without looking too stuffy.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091218/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_saab
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    Dec 19, 2009 3:37 AM GMT
    And nothing of value was lost. icon_lol.gif

    Saab made really bland cars that only appealed to a very small demographic. They were fairly popular in the 80's. The 900 convertible was the de facto yuppie car for some odd reason. But after that, no one really cared.

    The only Saab worth buying in recent times is the 92-X. Which is really a re-badged Subaru Impreza/WRX. I heard the resale value on the 92-X Aero is horrible. If you can find a used one in good condition for cheap, buy it. It's a fun car to drive. AWD, turbo powered. It's great for all weather driving. And there are lots of aftermarket performance parts for the WRX that fit the 92-X as well.

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  • stee99

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    Dec 19, 2009 4:03 AM GMT
    or you could jus buy the real WRX and not look like an architect..
    sabb is no great loss as they've been badly made over elderly GM partsbin confections for near on a decade now..
    If i remember right they also tried to flog a rebadged blazer in the states a few years back as well and their bad enough as a chevy..
  • Celticmusl

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    Dec 19, 2009 4:18 AM GMT
    I think Saab is awesome. They have always been known for some of the nicest interiors/cabins, and the most comfortable seats of any car line. I honestly think over the years most car companies have copied the Saab interior.

    The only problem I have ever had with a Saab would be the front wheel drive turbo lag, and the awful almost immediate drop in resale value(very comparable to Cadillac until a few yrs ago).

    I have read car review articles that have bluntly stated the 95 was the best mid size car that GM produced.
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    Dec 19, 2009 4:44 AM GMT
    I am going to miss them
  • vindog

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    Dec 19, 2009 4:56 AM GMT


    My dad had one. It was ok to drive. He hated it cuz fixing it was ridiculously expensive.

  • offshore

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    Dec 19, 2009 5:31 AM GMT
    I have owned 4 Saabs now and if this shit didn't happen I would have bought them for life.

    Most of the nay sayers haven't driven one or don't 'get' them. And all the bullshit sproud by GM about Saab and the general misinformation of the public opinion is shocking.

    GM totally screwed SAAB, they took SAAB's best technology for 20 years and used them in GM cars. And in return Saab gets crumbs fed by it's unloving parent, having to use the same crap switches and buttons and was not given any good funding for R&D. GM then played with the accounting book to offset it's own financial lose on Saab each year to make it look like they've never made any money. Now they are closing the door on one of the most unique and individual car maker. And they have the guts to say " We tried hard to make Saab work" You tried F**K ALL!!! You took the best from them and starved them death.

    Today is a sad day for the auto world, it's going to be a much boring place without Saab. Why would anyone want another Toyota Boringmobile, or Hyndai Soul-less ???

    As long as I am alive I will not touch a single piece made by GM. I'm defecting to Ford. Without Saab I don't know what car I will drive. Volvo is a distant 2nd. I don't want a boring far eastern mobile, nor pretencious German metal. Swedish cars are made for people like me and now it's gone. I can't believe it!...
  • offshore

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    Dec 19, 2009 5:34 AM GMT
    xrichx saidAnd nothing of value was lost. icon_lol.gif

    Saab made really bland cars that only appealed to a very small demographic. They were fairly popular in the 80's. The 900 convertible was the de facto yuppie car for some odd reason. But after that, no one really cared.

    The only Saab worth buying in recent times is the 92-X. Which is really a re-badged Subaru Impreza/WRX. I heard the resale value on the 92-X Aero is horrible. If you can find a used one in good condition for cheap, buy it. It's a fun car to drive. AWD, turbo powered. It's great for all weather driving. And there are lots of aftermarket performance parts for the WRX that fit the 92-X as well.

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    BLAND?? Are you frecking kidding me? Saabs are one of the few soulful, individual and unique brand that is full of character. And you thinkt he worthy Saab is the genetic freak Saabaru?

    Okay then Saab really can't be understood by the general population. But I am glad I had the chance to own and known and lived with 4. 2 of them saving my life in the process.
  • offshore

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    Dec 19, 2009 5:37 AM GMT
    How did GM screw Saab you say? They took theefficient and powerful 2.0 turbo charged engine developed BY Saab, and dropped it in a Chevy Cobolt and gave Saab the shitter old version in their own cars.

    Saab is the totally unloved step child, super talented and got so much potential, but always looked down, abused and starved by the horrid parents.
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    Dec 19, 2009 5:40 AM GMT
    but i just bought a pre-gm saab! icon_sad.gif
  • offshore

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    Dec 19, 2009 5:42 AM GMT
    And you will still have fun with it - the car is not going to explode tomorrow Andy. Properly looked after Saabs last and last.

    Which one did you get? C900? GM900 or the 9-3?
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    Dec 19, 2009 5:45 AM GMT
    GM does it again, yet still promotes it's laughable commercial with the new CEO about how GM has listened and is going to change...pssst...whatever.icon_neutral.gif
  • offshore

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    Dec 19, 2009 5:48 AM GMT
    The world is a slightly more boring place without Saabs.

    Wait until the Chinese flood the market with cheap soul-less appliances...

    As a driving enthusiast I dread to think. I think the era of motorcars as joyment is gone. Most cars just gets you from A to B...

    I miss the Alfas, Lancias and Citroens of yester year.
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    Dec 19, 2009 5:59 AM GMT
    offshore- yes, i know. it's been nothing but reliable, but then again, i actually take care of my cars. i've got a 2001 9-5.
  • offshore

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    Dec 19, 2009 6:02 AM GMT
    Cool! I had 2x 9-5s one of them saved my life in a crash - the police was amazed I was not injured.

    I'm selling my 9-3SS right now and when I move to Australia next month I will get another 9-5.
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    Dec 19, 2009 6:24 AM GMT
    Saab has only turned a profit for GM one year out of nearly twenty years of ownership. I'm sorry for those who enjoyed their products, but the company was long overdue for shutdown. Arguments about insufficient investment in the company aren't really very fair - this company simply served too small a market, and didn't really fit into GM's plans to consolidate platforms. This decision was pretty much inevitable.

    offshore saidHow did GM screw Saab you say? They took theefficient and powerful 2.0 turbo charged engine developed BY Saab, and dropped it in a Chevy Cobolt and gave Saab the shitter old version in their own cars.

    Saab is the totally unloved step child, super talented and got so much potential, but always looked down, abused and starved by the horrid parents.
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    Dec 19, 2009 6:46 AM GMT
    offshore said

    I have owned 4 Saabs .....Most of the nay sayers haven't driven one or don't 'get' them. it's gone. I can't believe it!...


    I agree. Saab is a predilection. I had a Volvo and BMW coup, but neither grew on me.If you have never had at least one long-term Saab relationship, then you may not appreciate our sentiment - although I do not think we are all alike in our affection for the line. That is part of the car's appeal. For me, and maybe some of you guys, a pleasant part of my future changed today. I do not recall all of the details, but think I am right in remembering that gay man are about twenty times more likely to purchase a SAAB than the dull guys. Where will we park our hard asses next?

    As for GM and selling the brand, it seemed to be GM’s intention to pull the plug all along. The WSJ reported that the two interested buyers had the same complaint about GM during the negotiations – GM was not that keen on reaching an agreement and stalled. Perhaps we will hear more about this.



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    Dec 19, 2009 6:57 AM GMT
    So, Volvo is next?

    [quote][cite]abelian0 said[/cite]Saab has only turned a profit for GM one year out of nearly twenty years of ownership. the company aren't really very fair - this company simply served too small a market, and didn't really fit into GM's plans to consolidate platforms. This decision was pretty much inevitable.
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    Dec 19, 2009 7:10 AM GMT
    Wait a minute, i thought GM sold saab to Koenigsegg??? what happened?!
  • rower_guy

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    Dec 19, 2009 7:44 AM GMT
    I owned a 1984 Saab 900s and it was the best car I ever owned and drove. The dumbest thing I ever did was sell it when I moved to California from Massachusetts. Darn, I wish I had kept that car. grrrrr.....

    Never had a day's trouble with my 900s and the heated seats were da bomb! Gettin' in at 4am to drive up to Killington to be the first on the lift at 8am and those heated seats, oh yeah, so comfy.

    I had a killer saab mechanic in watertown, ma and he kept my baby purring. Once GM bought Saab though, the brand went downhill and just sucked. All GM vehicles suck though, so it was inevitable that GM would destroy Saab once they finished the buyout. I can't believe noone in Sweden could put a deal together to rescue the brand and restore its luster and rightful place in the automotive world.

    Such a shame.
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    Dec 19, 2009 10:47 AM GMT
    Hmm, can't say I ever thought Saab was anything special. I purchased a brand new GM product a few years ago. I had high expectations for the vehicle but was sorely disappointed. I don't hold much trust in anything they roll off the assembly line.

    Anyway, I came across this video a while back and thought it was amazing.

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    Dec 19, 2009 2:48 PM GMT
    mike1892 saidWait a minute, i thought GM sold saab to Koenigsegg??? what happened?!


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    Dec 19, 2009 2:50 PM GMT
    NJDewd said
    mike1892 saidWait a minute, i thought GM sold saab to Koenigsegg??? what happened?!


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    Oh I didn't know that... what happened? Anyone know?
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    Dec 19, 2009 2:52 PM GMT
    Man, I wonder what car is next

    Saturn, SAAB, hopefully those god awful Hummers icon_lol.gif
  • Celticmusl

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    Dec 19, 2009 3:08 PM GMT
    Ricovelas saidMan, I wonder what car is next

    Saturn, SAAB, hopefully those god awful Hummers icon_lol.gif


    I believe Pontiac will be dead as well.