It's begun! Right-wing critics bash AVATAR as "rotten stew" of leftist, America-hating, "liberal bloodlust" propaganda. Oh, and "dull, boring, and unoriginal". REALLY?

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    Dec 19, 2009 10:30 AM GMT
    This review is actually pretty hilarious. (Contains spoilers)

    "Avatar" is cinema for the hate America crowd.
    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/13898/dont-believe-the-hype-avatar-stinks-long-boring-unoriginal-uber-left/

    My favorite line from the review:
    "The scientists are headed up by Susan “Sigourney” Weaver who plays her typical indignant, bitchy liberal self."

    I don't know about you, but I very much enjoyed this liberal propaganda, thank you very much.

    Also
    Cameron’s ‘Avatar’ Is a Big, Dull, America-Hating, PC Revenge Fantasy, Liberal Bloodlust
    http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/12/11/review-camerons-avatar-is-a-big-dull-america-hating-pc-revenge-fantasy/
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    Dec 19, 2009 1:22 PM GMT
    im not a right winger or a left winger, but it was still a ridiculous movie. it only relied on SFX to be good
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    Dec 19, 2009 1:30 PM GMT
    The review in the Wall Street Journal spent exactly 1 paragraph dismissing the triteness and predictability of the anti-military/industrial stuff. The rest of the review praised the beauty and creativity of Cameron's visual imagination.
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    Dec 19, 2009 1:44 PM GMT
    waxon saidim not a right winger or a left winger, but it was still a ridiculous movie. it only relied on SFX to be good


    Well, it was a sci-fi fantasy film which took place in a fantasy world so of course it's reliant on special effects. You can call any fantasy film "ridiculous."

    But to say that the sole reason Avatar was any good because of the special effects is VERY short-sighted.

    It was thoroughly enjoyable on many levels, not to mention the brilliant and moving performance by Zoe Saldana as Neytiri.
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    Dec 19, 2009 1:49 PM GMT
    True2Life said
    waxon saidim not a right winger or a left winger, but it was still a ridiculous movie. it only relied on SFX to be good


    Well, it was a sci-fi fantasy film which took place in a fantasy world so of course it's reliant on special effects. You can call any fantasy film "ridiculous."

    But to say that the sole reason Avatar was any good because of the special effects is VERY short-sighted.

    It was thoroughly enjoyable on many levels, not to mention the brilliant and moving performance by Zoe Saldana as Neytiri.


    to each their own. what is annoying are the people who hate movies just cuz everyone loves them. like my friend who decided not to like it cuz i said i didnt. wierd...
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    Dec 19, 2009 1:57 PM GMT
    I'm definitely not a liberal, and was in the military and enjoyed the movie. I don't pay attention to petty BS like that its annoying lol
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    Dec 19, 2009 2:39 PM GMT
    http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/fox_keeps_james_cameron_avatar_in_the_family_146480.asp
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    Dec 19, 2009 2:45 PM GMT
    nv7_ saidhttp://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/fox_keeps_james_cameron_avatar_in_the_family_146480.asp


    That article was hilarious, Fox and Friends has way more viewers than the today show. Fox and Friends is also watched in other countries too lol. People trying to get stuff out there knows this, which is why they will go on that show first always.

    I remember how all the guys in the military didn't want to see any other morning show but F&F's lol... Actually watching it now with my breakfast heh.
  • nv7_

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    Dec 19, 2009 3:00 PM GMT
    True2Life, I'll never forgive you for sending me to that Debbie Schlussel website. I threw up a little in my mouth before I left. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • DCEric

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    Dec 19, 2009 3:29 PM GMT
    Yeah, the movie is visually awesome, but the story line is basically Pocahontas, and is one of the classic story lines that Hollywood likes.

    /CGI and Special Effects are still awesome.
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    Dec 19, 2009 3:54 PM GMT
    yeah, really liked Avatar, but definately felt like i'd seen it before..

    part Dances with Wolves, part Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, with a pinch of The Matrix, LOTR, and Apocolypse Now.
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    Dec 19, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
    As an MMORPG player, it kinda struck a nerve with the idea of replacing your boring, damaged life with.... well, and avatar. It also mirrored the MMO world by having the character get slight 'upgrades' (for example, the horse mount, then a weak flying mount, and finally an epic flying mount).

    The story was horribly unoriginal, if you take away those small additions, thought I wouldn't call it dull and boring.

    Did it have a leftist slant? Yes. I'm pretty far left, and even I rolled my eyes a few times. Despite that a lot of the messages should hold some merit. Corporations wanting to get rid of waste and pollutant regulations *is* a dangerous thing.
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    Dec 19, 2009 5:19 PM GMT
    its a remake of Fern Gully...didn't like it
  • calibro

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    Dec 19, 2009 5:19 PM GMT
    I have to agree to a certain degree. The film is visually stunning, but the plot is cliche and contrived, akin to most Cameron films.
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    Dec 19, 2009 5:26 PM GMT
    All I have to say is: "What the hell is wrong with people? Seriously."
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    Dec 19, 2009 5:49 PM GMT
    Why do people have to make everything about right vs left. Just for shits and giggles I googled "Avatar Criticism" and guess what...the "left" bashes it too because there were no gay characters and lacks diversity.

    Why can't you just have a thread "Do you like Avatar?" and leave all the other BS out?
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    Dec 19, 2009 6:12 PM GMT
    Well, if it kinda reflects the new liberalism. Not the flower toting, peace loving ,meek,weak underdog of yesterday.
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    Dec 19, 2009 6:44 PM GMT
    Here's where I read reviews, because it shows you many different reviews.

    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/avatar/
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    Dec 24, 2009 5:11 PM GMT
    LOL @ the Fern Gully remake comment above...

    I thought it was really good - I don't know why people just can't go to a movie, sit back, and enjoy it anymore...it wasn't a great movie, but it was visually STUNNING and the story was okay - therefore I had a good time. People make too big of a deal about these kinds of movies...
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    Dec 24, 2009 5:15 PM GMT
    Loved the special effects but after about 45 minutes I was bored with it until the end of the movie. The story was soso and been done before. The movie was about an hour to long. Visually stunning but that can only carry my attention for so long. IMO not worth the accolades.
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    Dec 24, 2009 5:20 PM GMT
    Well if the RWcN (Right Wing christian Nazis) are against this movie, then I say let's go see it!!!! YEAH!!!! Anything that annoys the repuGlicans is a bonus! icon_lol.gif
    Cheers,
    Keith
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    Dec 24, 2009 5:34 PM GMT
    Musclequest saidWell if the RWcN (Right Wing christian Nazis) are against this movie, then I say let's go see it!!!! YEAH!!!! Anything that annoys the repuGlicans is a bonus! icon_lol.gif
    Cheers,
    Keith
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    LOL there you go, a great motivation indeed!
  • sfnicolas

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    Dec 24, 2009 5:35 PM GMT
    LOVED the movie, seen it twice--maybe again in a couple weeks
  • Crucializer

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    Dec 24, 2009 5:41 PM GMT
    I saw it last night in 3D and IMAX ... visually stunning is an understatement and even if the story was done before (so are more than half the movies out there), it was an amazing new take. I plan to see it again.
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    Dec 24, 2009 5:59 PM GMT
    l30l3nyc saidLOL @ the Fern Gully remake comment above...

    I thought it was really good - I don't know why people just can't go to a movie, sit back, and enjoy it anymore...it wasn't a great movie, but it was visually STUNNING and the story was okay - therefore I had a good time. People make too big of a deal about these kinds of movies...


    OK. Here's my problem with theater-going these days. I live in NYC - tickets are $13(!!). THIRTEEN DOLLARS. This wouldn't bother me except that:

    Show Time is 8pm. Stand on annoying line, scramble to find a decent seat, then... sit through a good 30 min. of ADVERTISING. That's right. WE ARE NOW FORCED TO PAY TO WATCH 30 MIN OR MORE OF ADVERTISING.

    This, to me, is infuriating. If I have to sit through this crap then why does the movie cost so damn much (don't even get me into actors fees!)?? It's ridiculous. The film actually starts at 8:20 or later, but I've already been barraged by crappy soda/music/clothing ads and even worse trailers. I'm already annoyed.

    So - it seems to me - that if I have to pay an exorbitant fee for all this non-sense then the LEAST Hollywood can do for these mega-buster films is have a decent script and intelligently written dialog. But most of the time they don't - and frankly there's no good reason or excuse for that.

    And - regarding "oh it's just an sci-fi/fantasy film... they don't need good writing, blah blah blah..." - total bollocks! There's plenty of excellent low-budget and indy sci-fi films that have excellent scripts, GREAT stories, decent-to-great acting (from unknowns, no less) and 1/32nd the budget of Avatar, et al. This is why I rarely go to see films anymore in theaters unless it's at an art-house. For some f-ing reason when I see films at Indi-theaters they charge less money and there's NO advertising. Fancy that.