Money and the Definition of Success and Happiness

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    Dec 20, 2009 3:32 PM GMT
    This holiday season has got me thinking about being happy and being financialy successful in a consumer driven society where wealth and possessions are top priorities.

    People with money live a better quality of life (better homes, schools, vacations,health care, transportation options, more options for cultural/social activities, less worry etc.). They may be very happy...or not.

    If you are financially successful, do you think people with no money are failures?

    Some smart people with ambition and drive are poor (and have less options) because of a difficult family situation growing up, insurmountable physical/mental health problems,a health catastophe, loosing a job/failed business.....things that can't be controlled. Can they still be happy, even though they want those good choices?

    Some poor people are lazy or made self destructive bad choices (substance abuse etc).

    They say the best things in life are free, but are those free things enough to be happy? Can you really be happy if you don't have money?











  • GQjock

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    Dec 20, 2009 3:48 PM GMT
    You peel back the surface of Most people who are wealthy and there's just as much - if not more dysfunctional crap laying around
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    Dec 20, 2009 3:51 PM GMT
    GQjock saidYou peel back the surface of Most people who are wealthy and there's just as much - if not more dysfunctional crap laying around


    Agreed. But honestly, I would prefer to be wealthy and dysfunctional than poor and dysfunctional. And besides, I think when you die and go to "heaven" there is a section that has room service, for those who can afford it.
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    Dec 20, 2009 4:01 PM GMT
    And besides, I think when you die and go to "heaven" there is a section that has room service, for those who can afford it.

    Haha ... oh really
    Do you think they take American Express?
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    Dec 20, 2009 4:04 PM GMT
    GQjock saidAnd besides, I think when you die and go to "heaven" there is a section that has room service, for those who can afford it.

    Haha ... oh really
    Do you think they take American Express?
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    No. You trade in all your money and credit cards at the front gate and you get plastic green chips to be used as currency. Heaven is too pure to be soiled by money being passed around.
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    Dec 20, 2009 4:06 PM GMT
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    Dec 20, 2009 4:36 PM GMT



    OK quick consensus and this is what we came up with, you can be wealthy and very happy and you can be poor and very happy; it all hinges on how you spend your time and money.



  • drypin

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    Dec 20, 2009 5:05 PM GMT
    I suppose we should hear from those without money.
  • oookellyooo

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    Dec 20, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
    Money helps in making people happy according to some survey and it does make sense...

    For those who are poor and broke, they can leverage their looks and big cock in exchange for lack of money icon_lol.gif. And then they could become successful...j/k
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    Dec 20, 2009 6:31 PM GMT
    GQjock saidLike S&H Green stamps icon_cool.gif


    OMG, I forgot about those. Hey, let's have a green stamp licking party, fill some books, and get ourselves one of them newfangled toasters!
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    Dec 20, 2009 6:33 PM GMT
    Money has a huge impact on a person's life. If you have more money, you can go out with friends, live in a nice home, eat nice food, have a good time, buy your loved ones presents...
    It feels so great to spend your hard earned money and to feel independent because you have earned the right to be.

    Yes, there are lots of other things that matter as well, but you can't convince me that in this world a person can live happily without having enough money to pay his bills.
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    Dec 20, 2009 6:34 PM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    GQjock saidLike S&H Green stamps icon_cool.gif


    OMG, I forgot about those. Hey, let's have a green stamp licking party, fill some books, and get ourselves one of them newfangled toasters!



    What, you didn't get one when you came out, like Ellen did?!?icon_wink.gificon_lol.gif
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    Dec 20, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
    BEFORE someone misquotes the bible....
    the quote is

    "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil."

    Not "Money is the root of all evil."


    Although I think "The LACK of money is the root of all evil."
  • Hunter9

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    Dec 20, 2009 6:54 PM GMT
    KissingPro saidThey say the best things in life are free, but are those free things enough to be happy? Can you really be happy if you don't have money?


    You honestly are unsure of whether someone who "doesn't have money" can be happy? What does "not having money" even mean? Like not a penny to your name? No possessions? Nothing? Even given those extremes, there are some in our own society who desire this type of lifestyle... don't think that more widgets is everybody's end goal.

    However, within the mainstream of this society, how about we just say that all other things being equal, it's better to have more money than less.
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    Dec 20, 2009 7:04 PM GMT
    Being utterly penniless would be miserable.
    But assuming a basic sufficiency of food and shelter, money is unrelated to happiness.
    One of my exes was a trust-fund baby. He was intelligent, creative, charming and handsome. He didn't have to work and so could have volunteered or taken some ill-paid but rewarding job. Instead he sat around feeling sorry for himself. He was unhappy because nothing that ever happened to him, including me, met his expectations.
    Some people are unhappy by nature. Their unhappiness will expand to fill whatever space is available, money or no money.
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    Dec 20, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
    Name me one thing you can die of in BOTH an ocean and a desert.

















    Thirst.
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    Dec 20, 2009 7:28 PM GMT
    Money=Happiness. That is all I have to say.
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    Dec 20, 2009 7:31 PM GMT
    Or as I've been told, money may not buy happiness, but neither does poverty.

    jprichva saidIt's an old saying: Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does make the misery more comfortable.
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    Dec 20, 2009 10:28 PM GMT
    GQjock saidAnd besides, I think when you die and go to "heaven" there is a section that has room service, for those who can afford it.

    Haha ... oh really
    Do you think they take American Express?
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    yes, but only if you have a black card

    platinum will only get you to the buffet line
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    Dec 20, 2009 11:12 PM GMT
    When my husband and I first met, I was barely holding on and he was still a med. resident. Neither of us had two nickels to rub together, but we didn't need much. We had each other, and that's all that mattered.

    Today, we are doing extremely well - happier now than we've ever been - because we have each other and we have money.

    The money helps. Those saying that money doesn't make a difference are in denial. It makes all the difference in the world.
  • Webster666

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    Dec 21, 2009 2:13 AM GMT
    I think that it's different for everybody.
    Most rich people don't think they're rich.
    A lot of poor people think they're middle class.

    For me, having money absolutely means happiness.
    Otherwise, it darkens every aspect of my life.
    I'm not sure about the definition of success.
    I suppose that it's being able to do whatever it is that you set out to do.

  • GQjock

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    Dec 21, 2009 2:16 AM GMT
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  • jlly_rnchr

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    Dec 21, 2009 2:33 AM GMT
    I was a waiter the year after I graduated college when I couldn't find a job, and it was one of the happiest years of my life.

    Not living off tips anymore allows me to get fancy dinners, nice clothes, and travel a little bit, but I'm not any more or less happy than I was then.

    Then again, I was high most of the time when I was a waiter, that might have had an impact on my disposition.
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    Dec 21, 2009 2:40 AM GMT
    jprichva saidIt's an old saying: Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does make the misery more comfortable.


    Exactly.
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    Dec 21, 2009 2:57 AM GMT
    drypin saidI suppose we should hear from those without money.



    I doubt it! most guys on RJ are wealthy and if not no one dare admit it!! icon_lol.gif

    But all kidding aside I wonder how much more miserable those in favor of money will be if they loose all that wealth tomorrow!? the real question you all should ask yourselves: How much richer or wealthy I will feel when I have nothing!?


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