Favorite US PRESIDENT and WHY

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    May 12, 2007 8:48 PM GMT
    I was stimulated by the topic of GAY REPUBLICANS here, and began to look into making myself feel more positive about the state of our country by re-visiting history .I began to look up information on our former leaders.
    I was particularly taken with Franklin D Roosevelt. This man was a real jock for sure, and one who overcame great physical pain while nursing a country back to health through FOUR TERMS ! At the begining of his first term almost every bank in the USA was closed, one third of the people out of work.That was LESS then one hundered years ago. Then there was , uhhh, WW 2 to contend with.
    It's hard to imagine that GW could ever stand next to someone as intelligent and powerful as FDR today. FDR had INTEGRITY and TRUE GRIT>
    I would HIGHLY advise logging onto Millers Center Of Public Affairs and listening to all of FDR's Innaugural speaches, esp his THIRD. His voice and authority are the stuff of Gods .
    ... Then try to imagine what GW even sounds like.

    This stuff is very of THE DAY, guys.

    OK. So the question is :

    Who is your favorite US President and WHY ...
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    May 12, 2007 8:54 PM GMT
    George W. Bush.

    Because everyone thinks he is stupid, he won 2 terms and make it to the history.
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    May 12, 2007 9:00 PM GMT
    Ok. I'm going to ignore that one.

    BTW, Guys - go to Franklin D Roosevelt Inaugural speeches on search , and then scroll down to Miller's Center of Public Affairs.

    Above statement by NO PIC has as much validity as GW, who might as well have no face, seeing as he has no real values.

    btw- went to LOIS LANE SCHOOL OF SPELLING... sorry for the mis-
    spelling on Inaugural speeches in first post.
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    May 12, 2007 9:40 PM GMT
    TIENLAM

    Regarding THE prez

    Its just amazing to see what your little brother can do for you $$$$$$ the GOV of FL
    that was the first time he ran (we all know the money was what got him in

    And for the 2nd time
    how could anyone vote for a man who
    was for late term Abortions
    John Kerry

    Gerald Ford to answer the question @ hand
    he never wanted to be Prez but after Nixons
    1st vp died that is when he was chosen to be VP then Nixon left office And Ford became the man



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    May 13, 2007 2:07 AM GMT
    ... AND THE SAND IN THE HOUR GLASS IS TRICKLING DOWN, DOWN, DOWN...

    Well said, Peter !

    Theodore was a close contender for myself as well... A president by accident , a very progressive republican.That man loved the out doors like nobody's business. 'Bully Pulpit' was the expression he used to describe himself, a great man who had no problem going after the corporations that were monopolies..HUGE wealth, meanwhile most people barely getting along He went after Rockefellers' Standard Oil, Carnegie, JP Morgon... all the big wigs. He campaigned for the end of childhood labour( Franklin got rid of it) Created Social Security, ect.

    Both Roosevelt's were reformers.

    Both REAL JOCKS

    Teddy laid the foundation for his cousin...

    Franklin saved the country.


    We need them back.
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    May 13, 2007 2:09 AM GMT
    I didn't know anyone actually liked W, I mean as a favorite leader. To each his own.

    I would be unoriginal and say Lincoln as he overcame depression. At least that is what we think now. I mean, it looks like that is the case and he had some extraordinary things to say. He was a true statesman from what I know of him.

    I wonder if a true statesmen like Lincoln or FDR can be elected today. I am not sure we have had one since JFK. And I'm not saying JFK was one, in fact, I am using him as an example of the kind of media savvy politico that is more the rage now.

    BTW, although I live in Barcelona, and am Spanish, I have an American passport which is why I say "we." I do love what the US stands for. I also love CalTrask2JimStark, he is so awesome and a beautiful friend. I'd vote for him.
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    May 13, 2007 2:22 AM GMT
    Thanks Madapollo..

    So many incredible things about Lincoln. Where to start. A great story teller. Troubled marriage.
    A man who began as a failure in politics, and then got elected to congress in the late 1840's, defeated Again for re-election.
    Went back . worked as a lawyer. Ran for senate. Lost. But he pointed out that : " A house divided can not stand ". The south hated him.
    He grew into the role of president despite the nation, and saved the united states from dividing into two unions and pushed democracy forward.

    AMAZING !!
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    May 13, 2007 2:30 AM GMT
    - OH, yah ... the emancipation of slaves.
    no mere after thought.

    FREEDOM, anyone ?


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    May 13, 2007 2:56 AM GMT
    I wouldn't say that he's my favorite but GWB has been very successful as a politician... president, won reelection with a majority of the American vote... and there is no doubt that he won't fade into history very quickly between 911, the Iraqi war, expanding government power into invading your privacy... I am pretty sure he's not going to be forgotten anytime soon
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    May 13, 2007 3:11 AM GMT
    I need to make a correction on my statement
    Nixion Vp was ousted he sticky fingers
    And that is when Ford was chosen

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    May 13, 2007 3:30 AM GMT
    I never mentioned the popular vote in 2000. I mentioned a majority vote in his reelection. He did get a majority of the vote in 2004. Just check out this article on CNN. http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/03/prez.main/index.html

    In fact in quotes from the article

    "But White House aides said the president also will say that his majority-vote win -- he is the first to win the presidency with more than 50 percent of the vote since his father in 1988 -- is an indicator that the country is more united now than it was four years ago, when he lost the popular vote to Al Gore."

    In 2000 Gore won the popular vote but failed to win the electoral college... but Gore did not have a majority vote even in 2000... I think he only had around 48% (or so) of the total vote.

    So please in the future know what you are are writing about before you start.

    or read this from answers
    http://www.answers.com/topic/united-states-presidential-election-2004-1

    it also states that Bush won by a majority.
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    May 13, 2007 4:13 AM GMT
    Peter, I would say Chad might have ( let's hope ! ) been kidding in his first statement.
    OK. That outa the way -
    GWB has made the WORST mistakes of any president in US history, and definately will NOT be going down in a positive light.
    He has lied to the American people. He has put our troops in harms way... for WHAT weapons of mass destruction??? He uses fear to manipulate.
    Remember what FDR said in his first inaugural speech : " THE ONLY THING TO FEAR IS FEAR ITSELF. "
    We have no military strategy. This is an unmitigated DISASTER !
    And we are not even getting the advantage of the FKNG OIL !!!!!

    OH, well... on a brighter note - we have the GREEN movement.
    tremendous opportunity here, I assure you.

    Peace, jocksters.
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    May 13, 2007 4:25 AM GMT
    lot's of people don't vote for one reason or another... In my family we always vote... so far I have never missed a vote even in the off years. But it will never cease to amaze me that people who don't take the time to vote manage to find the time to complain about the leaders/policies that passed or failed.
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    May 13, 2007 4:50 AM GMT
    BTW,

    Chad and peter I did some fact checking. You were BOTH right, but Chad, I need to address this :
    We are talking about a 'majority' of the POPULAR vote. You can still be elected president w/ out the popular vote. Al Gore got it the first time around- it went to the Supreme Court, where the majority in power are Republicans -and surprise !
    BOTH of GWB's elections were close calls, but we have to go back to WHERE the country is RIGHT NOW :

    AN ATTORNEY GENERAL IN A SCANDAL

    A WAR POLICY THAT IS NOT WORKING

    VIOLENCE AGAINST ILLIGAL IMMIGRANTS

    OK. This new plan for Iraq - Say we make it peacefull. What do we do then ? Leave, and watch it fall apart ?
    We are creating MORE terrorists because of our invasion of Iraq.
    We can't even provide the right kind of armour to protect our soldiers. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE ???!!!!

    No use crying over spilled milk. The BIG question is will this egotistical moron get us into war with IRAN ?!

    This is TRULY a time for REAL JOCKS and REAL HISTORY LESSONS.

    Anybody ?
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    May 13, 2007 5:10 AM GMT
    Don't forget the following:

    He is the only president in hisotry to cut taxes for the very rich during a war.

    He is only president who cut funding for teh VA medical system and even tried to shut down several VA meidcal Centers, such as the Manhattan VA, during a war.

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    May 13, 2007 5:15 AM GMT
    Oh how about issues like environmental protection, stem cell research, abortion rights, the list just goes on...
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    May 13, 2007 5:24 AM GMT
    Interesting how many guys like Teddy, when he, like W, started wars just for fun.

    Personally, I liked Lloyd Bridges. He had more of a clue than any of the modern presidents, and knew how to wear a wetsuit.

    Oh, or was that just a movie?

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    May 13, 2007 5:43 AM GMT
    UHHH,

    HELLO ????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WHAT war did Teddy roosevelt START, may I ask ?
    He fought in The spanish American war - lead the 'Rough Riders',

    But, uhhhhhhh NO - He did not START a war, not according to, ummm, American History.

    yah, I personally have always liked Jeff Bridges, but Hollywood aside here, and don't even get me started on Ronny.

    Anyone else ?
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    May 13, 2007 5:47 AM GMT
    I would have to say that mine is a first lady. Lincoln didn't even come up with the idea to free the slave and even afterwards the slaves where not free due to share cropping and the fact that a lot of them had little to no money because the where slaves and didn't get paid. I don't think that we had any good presidents before Lincoln because they all allowed for slavery to go one. For people to be treated worse than animals and sold like cattle. I think that in all honesty the best first lady was Eleanor Roosevelt for she was a true American she cared about the people and was brilliant they say that behind every great man there is a great woman but what they fall to realize it that a great woman stands at his side or in front.
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    May 13, 2007 5:51 AM GMT
    Teddy's motto on Foreign Policy:

    "Speak softly, and cary a BIG stick."
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    May 13, 2007 7:40 AM GMT
    Very well put jdriva.

    Eleanor Roosevelt was brilliant, a first lady of the world.
    It was her support that enabled FDR to WALK !
    he called her " My eyes and ears."
    After his death she was an ambassador to the nations, a close supporter of Martin Luther King.

    She was the first ACTIVE first lady, publishing'MY DAY' during FDR's presidency.

    I love her. ( And I love Hillary too )

    I concur with everything you said.

    But ya gotta give George Washington a little credit for puttin' it all together.





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    May 13, 2007 11:49 AM GMT
    Lincoln: He guided our nation through its darkest hour and abolished the greatest stain on our national soul--slavery.

    FDR: He gave our nation hope during the Great Depression and effectively manganged America's efforts in WW II.

    Teddy Roosevelt: First and foremost he was the father of Alice Roosevelt Longworth. ;-) One of the few presidents who was larger than the office itself.

    Jefferson: He fought against the Sedition Act--the Patriot Act of his day--but much nastier. He wrote the Declaration of Independence. He bought Louisiana.... Another larger than life presidents.

    Washignton: After Franklin the most important founder of our nation. He oversaw the birth of a democratic nation which is never an easy task. Washington served his two terms and then went home.

    My 2 cents....
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    May 13, 2007 12:51 PM GMT
    Dick Cheney. He was extraordinarily gifted in the puppetry arts while advocating the propriety of the unitary executive: a puppeteer who convinced many Americans his puppet had not only personal autonomy but properly reiterated Louis XIV's famous declamation, "L'etat c'est moi."
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    May 13, 2007 12:57 PM GMT
    Oh don't forget Dick was good at shooting his friend as well!
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    May 13, 2007 4:03 PM GMT
    Definitely GWB

    ...because everyone says that anyone can grow up to be president, but W proves it.

    Think about it, W proves that you don't have to be smart, that you can get 'C's in school and it doesn't matter, that you can fail in business 7 times, that you can use your family's connections to avoid military service, and you can STILL get elected!

    W exemplifies the wide-open opportunity that America stands for. And that's why I proudly stand with the 28% of Americans who say that the last 6 years have been okey-dokey!