WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OR INTERPRETATION OF MASCULINITY

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    Dec 22, 2009 7:26 PM GMT
    It has been my experience in this paradoxical world we live, that guys would mostly characterize themselves as masculine, straight acting, etc etc. Since by definition masculinity refers to gender and the role of gender has always been prescribed by society (or societies) in the historical context, why would you want to label yourself masculine, straight acting etc?

    Masculinity through out history has always been, about domination, sexism and privilege

    So I ask the question to those who identify themselves as masculine, str8 acting etc, what is it do you mean, or are you just regurgitating societal conventions?
  • masculumpedes

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    Dec 22, 2009 7:40 PM GMT
    I consider myself to be masculine (ie: not femenine). For whatever reasons different guys look for different things and to each his own. I am 100% a gay man and love my jeans and t-shirts and work boots...however, I have a gay friend who wouldn't be caught dead in anything other than the latest fashion of dress slacks and shirts and all the trimmings.....He insists on using the word "gurl" in every other sentence and his wrist turns like a windmill. He wears foundation to cover his "blemishes"..To me this is not masculine. icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 22, 2009 7:53 PM GMT
    I agree 100 % with what MaleFeet said!
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    Dec 22, 2009 7:55 PM GMT
    If you are defining yourself by a social convention then you are by definition regurgitating a social convention.

    That is why I identify as Genderqueer. I am bigger than silly little genders.
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    Dec 22, 2009 8:25 PM GMT
    Masculine: chew baccy and spit on the floor.

    Srsly... move on icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 22, 2009 8:31 PM GMT
    Was it necessary to post this same topic on multiple forums?
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    Dec 22, 2009 8:52 PM GMT
    malefeet saidI consider myself to be masculine (ie: not femenine). For whatever reasons different guys look for different things and to each his own. I am 100% a gay man and love my jeans and t-shirts and work boots...however, I have a gay friend who wouldn't be caught dead in anything other than the latest fashion of dress slacks and shirts and all the trimmings.....He insists on using the word "gurl" in every other sentence and his wrist turns like a windmill. He wears foundation to cover his "blemishes"..To me this is not masculine. icon_wink.gif




    Who made the decision, that your gay friend is "feminine"? you? or society?, although some women might act like him not all women do, do only masculine men love jeans, t-shirts and work boots? is that the definition of masculinity?
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    Dec 22, 2009 8:55 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidMasculine: chew baccy and spit on the floor.

    Srsly... move on icon_rolleyes.gif


    please excuse me, but there is no need to be crass.
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    Dec 22, 2009 8:56 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said I agree 100 % with what MaleFeet said!


    You agree with a crass and false generalization? Is that not stereotyping? Is that not prejudice?
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:00 PM GMT
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  • masculumpedes

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    Dec 22, 2009 9:04 PM GMT
    free_spirit09 said
    malefeet saidI consider myself to be masculine (ie: not femenine). For whatever reasons different guys look for different things and to each his own. I am 100% a gay man and love my jeans and t-shirts and work boots...however, I have a gay friend who wouldn't be caught dead in anything other than the latest fashion of dress slacks and shirts and all the trimmings.....He insists on using the word "gurl" in every other sentence and his wrist turns like a windmill. He wears foundation to cover his "blemishes"..To me this is not masculine. icon_wink.gif




    Who made the decision, that your gay friend is "feminine"? you? or society?, although some women might act like him not all women do, do only masculine men love jeans, t-shirts and work boots? is that the definition of masculinity?


    I made the decision that to me, he is femenine. Now, it's time to move along...these aren't the droids you're looking for. icon_wink.gif
  • masculumpedes

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    Dec 22, 2009 9:06 PM GMT
    free_spirit09 said Is that not stereotyping? Is that not prejudice?


    No..I believe that stereotyping and prejudice only occur when you DO NOT know the person in question. I know my friend very well. I would never make such a claim against you or anyone else that I didn't know. May I ask...how do you see....YOURSELF? icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:07 PM GMT
    free_spirit09 said
    StudlyScrewRite said I agree 100 % with what MaleFeet said!


    You agree with a crass and false generalization? Is that not stereotyping? Is that not prejudice?


    You come on a gay website and talk about prejudice?? Talk about stereotyping??
    Gays are THE most prejudiced and apt to stereotype people I've ever met.

    Proof: read any forum post about 'i only like "X" type of man" or various versions of that.
    I've received more toleration from heteros than any gay man on any website.

    You asked for my opinion, not in hopes it would validate yours, but in hopes you could put someone down for holding one different!

    Your opinion is your opinion. Just because someone else has a different one, it doesn't make theirs wrong.
    Move on.
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:09 PM GMT
    free_spirit09 said
    Lostboy saidMasculine: chew baccy and spit on the floor.

    Srsly... move on icon_rolleyes.gif


    please excuse me, but there is no need to be crass.


    Oh that was me being nice. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Maybe search the forums? This topic has been touched on 1 or 300 times...

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  • Delivis

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    Dec 22, 2009 9:11 PM GMT
    THE THREAD TITLE IS IN CAPS, IT MUST BE SERIOUS AND ORIGINAL!
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:12 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Lostboy said[/cite]
    free_spirit09 said
    Lostboy saidMasculine: chew baccy and spit on the floor.

    Srsly... move on icon_rolleyes.gif


    please excuse me, but there is no need to be crass.


    Oh that was me being nice. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Maybe search the forums? This topic has been touched on 1 or 300 times...

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    Thanks, I was going to say that
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:14 PM GMT
    Delivis saidTHE THREAD TITLE IS IN CAPS, IT MUST BE SERIOUS AND ORIGINAL!



    Hmmmm...gotta think about all of this...106.gif
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:15 PM GMT
    Did anyone actually answer your question? Ahhah
    To me….masculinity is confidence, cooperation, intellectualism, critical thinking, leadership, and proactive work ethics.
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:31 PM GMT
    malefeet said
    free_spirit09 said Is that not stereotyping? Is that not prejudice?


    No..I believe that stereotyping and prejudice only occur when you DO NOT know the person in question. I know my friend very well. I would never make such a claim against you or anyone else that I didn't know. May I ask...how do you see....YOURSELF? icon_wink.gif


    oh my,please excuse me, but you are using bad syllogism, to imply that knowing a human being, negates subconscious attempts at categorizing them in a prejudiced or stereotyped fashion is a sign of abuse.
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:34 PM GMT
    talldreamer saidDid anyone actually answer your question? Ahhah
    To me….masculinity is confidence, cooperation, intellectualism, critical thinking, leadership, and proactive work ethics.


    Taildreamer, that is priceless. Would you really think a woman is being masculine when she confidently runs a department or heads off a problem before it manifests? You might not want to mention that to her. I know a few that would take it poorly. ;-)
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:37 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said
    free_spirit09 said
    StudlyScrewRite said I agree 100 % with what MaleFeet said!


    You agree with a crass and false generalization? Is that not stereotyping? Is that not prejudice?


    You come on a gay website and talk about prejudice?? Talk about stereotyping??
    Gays are THE most prejudiced and apt to stereotype people I've ever met.

    Proof: read any forum post about 'i only like "X" type of man" or various versions of that.
    I've received more toleration from heteros than any gay man on any website.

    You asked for my opinion, not in hopes it would validate yours, but in hopes you could put someone down for holding one different!

    Your opinion is your opinion. Just because someone else has a different one, it doesn't make theirs wrong.
    Move on.



    Prejudice flows both ways, even in the LGBT community there is racism, sexism, and the like, that does not excuse the community from their predilections. I did not inquire about your opinion, to put you done or validate my objective observation (which is different from an opinion))
    However people hiding their unjust prejudices, predilections, and the likes behind opinion, is morally abhorrent and should be addressed at any point in life, it is our civic duty as civilized human beings (social animals with habits)
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:38 PM GMT
    Delivis saidTHE THREAD TITLE IS IN CAPS, IT MUST BE SERIOUS AND ORIGINAL!


    There was nothing meant by the thread title being in caps, it could have been in lower case letters, it was an arbitrary decision
  • masculumpedes

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    Dec 22, 2009 9:39 PM GMT
    free_spirit09 said oh my,please excuse me, but you are using bad syllogism, to imply that knowing a human being, negates subconscious attempts at categorizing them in a prejudiced or stereotyped fashion is a sign of abuse.



    I was only speaking for myself......not the whole world....I never make assumptions about anyone, I prefer to get to know a person as fully as I can. icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:41 PM GMT
    drypin said
    talldreamer saidDid anyone actually answer your question? Ahhah
    To me….masculinity is confidence, cooperation, intellectualism, critical thinking, leadership, and proactive work ethics.


    Taildreamer, that is priceless. Would you really think a woman is being masculine when she confidently runs a department or heads off a problem before it manifests? You might not want to mention that to her. I know a few that would take it poorly. ;-)


    Just because something is masculine doesn’t mean it isn’t feminine as well. Characteristics can overlap and still be truly in their own rights as masculine and feminine. There is no need for polarism.
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    Dec 22, 2009 9:42 PM GMT
    Ummmm.....Me.