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    Dec 24, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
    Just watched the movie(3D) yesterday night, it totally wowed me, the special effects and the 3D was just incredible. The movie takes place in a planet called Pandora. Overall very creative and entertaining, I had no time to think about how long the frigging movie was(2:45). Best movie I watched in many years but then again thats just my personal opinion, some might not find it that good...I did...I loved it.

  • Melos

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    Dec 24, 2009 5:16 PM GMT
    It was very well done, but the story left nothing to the imagination. The plot has been beaten to death. I walked away with the feeling that it was a remake of FernGully with a half billion dollar budget.



    At least FernGully had Robin Williams...
  • jrs1

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    Dec 24, 2009 6:00 PM GMT
    Melos ... no joke ... what you've just said has been my facebook status for the past week. we are in accord. however, I did love the movie.

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    Dec 24, 2009 7:12 PM GMT
    Fern Gully
    Dances With Wolves
    The Last Samurai
    and maybe a few made-for-TV movies with the same theme.

    The whole point of the movie was to showcase what James Cameron can create with $300 million. The story was just kinda thrown in there as an after thought to make you sit in the theater for 3 hours. icon_lol.gif
  • Crucializer

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    Dec 24, 2009 7:16 PM GMT
    Sorry, but I loved every minute of it. It was eyegasmic ... and that's what I expected! icon_biggrin.gif
  • JayneCobb

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    Dec 24, 2009 7:21 PM GMT
    I don't know why everyone rags on the story, I loved it! Apparently anything with any similarities to anything makes it a remake these days. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • DCEric

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    Dec 24, 2009 7:27 PM GMT
    JayneCobb saidI don't know why everyone rags on the story, I loved it! Apparently anything with any similarities to anything makes it a remake these days. icon_rolleyes.gif


    The problem is that Hollywood seems to think that there are 10 stories worth telling, and this is a pretty standard storyline. Not that its a bad storyline, but I don't want to know how a movie ends, 20 minutes into it, and with this one I could guess the whole story from the trailers.
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    Dec 24, 2009 7:28 PM GMT
    I also thought it was a 250 million dollar remake of Ferngully....meets Pocahontas. It will never be a classic!
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    Dec 24, 2009 7:33 PM GMT
    jrs1 saidMelos ... no joke ... what you've just said has been my facebook status for the past week. we are in accord. however, I did love the movie.

    also:

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/759982/


    Lol, I, too said that to my buddy Drew immediately after walking out of the theater at the midnight release. But it didn't make me love it any less....

    Hell, here's the tagline for Fern Gully:
    "They live in a secret world touched by magic and surrounded by adventure, and the only human who has been there, must now fight to save it."

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    Dec 24, 2009 7:34 PM GMT
    DCEric said
    JayneCobb saidI don't know why everyone rags on the story, I loved it! Apparently anything with any similarities to anything makes it a remake these days. icon_rolleyes.gif


    The problem is that Hollywood seems to think that there are 10 stories worth telling, and this is a pretty standard storyline. Not that its a bad storyline, but I don't want to know how a movie ends, 20 minutes into it, and with this one I could guess the whole story from the trailers.


    Ummm, I believe every good character and every good story come from a few greek plays and archetypes. We like them, they work.
  • yogadudeSEATT...

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    Dec 24, 2009 7:53 PM GMT
    I found this film to be beautiful and brilliant. Its ability to expose millions of people around the world to the belief in panentheism will be its lasting legacy.
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    Dec 24, 2009 7:56 PM GMT
    xrichx saidFern Gully
    Dances With Wolves
    The Last Samurai
    and maybe a few made-for-TV movies with the same theme.

    The whole point of the movie was to showcase what James Cameron can create with $300 million. The story was just kinda thrown in there as an after thought to make you sit in the theater for 3 hours. icon_lol.gif


    I disagree, youre pretty much over simplifying the whole movie. There was way more detail in the story line of Avatar, the fauna. The vegetation, the interaction among every single living thing plus a very interesting approach to "religion" where singing and dancing to Eywa(guiding force in Pandora) could be interpreted as savage science. Also Im tired of all these movies where the aliens are super smart and way ahead in technology compared to human beings. In this case we were the aliens, we were the extremely smart ones with the technology to destroy their habitat at will. Not the first time? Maybe not, but this is like comparing The Lord of The Rings to Harry Potter just because Gandalf looks like Dumbledore.

    You cant judge a story by taking it to such a basic level, it makes no sense, if you really watched the movie and payed attention to most details youd realize it was genius and far away from being a waste of money.
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    Dec 24, 2009 8:07 PM GMT
    I mentioned that it was like Fern Gully to a couple people, and they all stared at me like I was nuts. I'm glad some one else remembers good ol "cartoon" movies.

    And yes, it was EXACTLY the same. Just replace logging company with... mining company... and put it in the future... and replace magic transformation into being tiny man, to technology. Ferny Gully also had "the fabric" which was some sort of Ewya or Gaia principal. The only big difference is Hexxus, the destruction spirit that fed on pollution. But both movies had a giant tree!

    And no, i'm not obsessed with Fern Gully... just wikipedia. icon_biggrin.gif

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    Dec 24, 2009 8:08 PM GMT
    charlitos said
    xrichx saidFern Gully
    Dances With Wolves
    The Last Samurai
    and maybe a few made-for-TV movies with the same theme.

    The whole point of the movie was to showcase what James Cameron can create with $300 million. The story was just kinda thrown in there as an after thought to make you sit in the theater for 3 hours. icon_lol.gif


    I disagree, youre pretty much over simplifying the whole movie. There was way more detail in the story line of Avatar, the fauna. The vegetation, the interaction among every single living thing plus a very interesting approach to "religion" where singing and dancing to Eywa(guiding force in Pandora) could be interpreted as savage science. Also Im tired of all these movies where the aliens are super smart and way ahead in technology compared to human beings. In this case we were the aliens, we were the extremely smart ones with the technology to destroy their habitat at will. Not the first time? Maybe not, but this is like comparing The Lord of The Rings to Harry Potter just because Gandalf looks like Dumbledore.

    You cant judge a story by taking it to such a basic level, it makes no sense, if you really watched the movie and payed attention to most details youd realize it was genius and far away from being a waste of money.


    Thank you icon_smile.gif yes, the environments were stunning and relevant.

    And to those that still think the story is simplistic, well think about it like this: This was the debut movie for this new 3-d and animation technology... This was an expensive flick... It was no accident that such a relatable story would be chosen. It leaves out no audience, it has romance, action, sci-fi, religion, etc etc etc. And they kept it simple enough that anyone (including children) could easily become wrapped up in the story without becoming confused in loo of attempting to make the audience feel smart as so many directors love to do. People will continue to flock to the theaters...

    Oh, by the way, there has been a thread for this since release...
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/755283/
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    Dec 24, 2009 8:15 PM GMT
    charlitos said
    I disagree, youre pretty much over simplifying the whole movie. There was way more detail in the story line of Avatar, the fauna. The vegetation, the interaction among every single living thing plus a very interesting approach to "religion" where singing and dancing to Eywa(guiding force in Pandora) could be interpreted as savage science. Also Im tired of all these movies where the aliens are super smart and way ahead in technology compared to human beings. In this case we were the aliens, we were the extremely smart ones with the technology to destroy their habitat at will. Not the first time? Maybe not, but this is like comparing The Lord of The Rings to Harry Potter just because Gandalf looks like Dumbledore.

    You cant judge a story by taking it to such a basic level, it makes no sense, if you really watched the movie and payed attention to most details youd realize it was genius and far away from being a waste of money.


    Very GOOD POINT!
    Avatar is a brilliant piece of film-making! No matter how anyone thinks of the story line. Cameron is in the same line of film history as Lucas - breaking visionary/technological boundaries.

    I think too many are OVER analyzing the film and not enjoying the visual ride. And frankly I felt their was depth to the story line and like the ORIGINAL "Star Wars" you have no idea what the director and writer has in mind for Part 2 if he decides to do it.

    Remember everyone thought "Star Wars" was great until Empire came out and so many agree there was more depth and fleshing out of what that universe was about. It was a whole lot darker and SURPRISING to many who saw it.

    I am excited to see at least someone trying and working hard to create something captivating.
    Cheers!
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    Dec 24, 2009 8:22 PM GMT
    crownroyal117 saidI mentioned that it was like Fern Gully to a couple people, and they all stared at me like I was nuts. I'm glad some one else remembers good ol "cartoon" movies.

    And yes, it was EXACTLY the same. Just replace logging company with... mining company... and put it in the future... and replace magic transformation into being tiny man, to technology. Ferny Gully also had "the fabric" which was some sort of Ewya or Gaia principal. The only big difference is Hexxus, the destruction spirit that fed on pollution. But both movies had a giant tree!

    And no, i'm not obsessed with Fern Gully... just wikipedia. icon_biggrin.gif

    Anyone watch any bowl games???? Realjocks?? no? ok.


    Who cares about the similarities, brother? The message (did you even get the message?) is a very important one for humanity to be hearing right now. Fern Gully was seen by children, Avatar will be seen by adults and children. Yes, it's important for children to be exposed to the themes in these films, but it is adults that are making the decisions right now that will effect our future and the future of our planet.

    Bowl games? Really dude? This is what's important to you?
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    Dec 24, 2009 8:23 PM GMT
    crownroyal117 saidI mentioned that it was like Fern Gully to a couple people, and they all stared at me like I was nuts. I'm glad some one else remembers good ol "cartoon" movies.

    And yes, it was EXACTLY the same. Just replace logging company with... mining company... and put it in the future... and replace magic transformation into being tiny man, to technology. Ferny Gully also had "the fabric" which was some sort of Ewya or Gaia principal. The only big difference is Hexxus, the destruction spirit that fed on pollution. But both movies had a giant tree!

    And no, i'm not obsessed with Fern Gully... just wikipedia. icon_biggrin.gif

    Anyone watch any bowl games???? Realjocks?? no? ok.


    Again, so according to your logic Harry Potter is a Lord of the Rings remake, just replace Voldemort with Sauron...give Frodo a pair of glasses a haircut and he is Harry with a ring. Both movies had wizards all around the place. There were orcs and dragons too. The only big difference is they didnt play quidditch in the fellowship of the ring. But both movies had a giant castle!
  • irishkcguy

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    Dec 24, 2009 8:25 PM GMT
    The story was very archetypical, but seriously who cares? People are calling it a Dances With Wolves ripoff like DWW invented this kind of story. Avatar is a mind blowing visual experience. What JC gets that his competitors (I mean you, Mr. Bay) don't understand is a film must slow down long enough for the audience to care about the fate of the characters. All the spectacle in the world doesn't matter if you don't care what happens to the characters. Or if you can't follow what's happening. I really hope JC doesn't take anotehr 12 year break between films. This was the first movie I've seen in a very very very long time that really must be seen at the cinema.
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    Dec 24, 2009 8:36 PM GMT
    irishkcguy saidThe story was very archetypical, but seriously who cares? People are calling it a Dances With Wolves ripoff like DWW invented this kind of story. Avatar is a mind blowing visual experience. What JC gets that his competitors (I mean you, Mr. Bay) don't understand is a film must slow down long enough for the audience to care about the fate of the characters. All the spectacle in the world doesn't matter if you don't care what happens to the characters. Or if you can't follow what's happening. I really hope JC doesn't take anotehr 12 year break between films. This was the first movie I've seen in a very very very long time that really must be seen at the cinema.


    Michael Bay is not a competitor of James Cameron.

    I like some movie in my explosions.

    Oh, and I think he maybe took 4-5years after Titanic, but other than that... been busy with Terminator and Dark Angel, he is working on another project already. Writing a sci-fi movie about a 26th century cyborg woman found in a scrap heap by a scientist...lol.
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    Dec 24, 2009 8:46 PM GMT
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    Thank you icon_smile.gif yes, the environments were stunning and relevant.

    And to those that still think the story is simplistic, well think about it like this: This was the debut movie for this new 3-d and animation technology... This was an expensive flick... It was no accident that such a relatable story would be chosen. It leaves out no audience, it has romance, action, sci-fi, religion, etc etc etc. And they kept it simple enough that anyone (including children) could easily become wrapped up in the story without becoming confused in loo of attempting to make the audience feel smart as so many directors love to do. People will continue to flock to the theaters...

    Oh, by the way, there has been a thread for this since release...
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/755283/


    I fell in love with the imagination they put into making all these weird looking animals and plants without actually making them look totally out of this world. We could right away find something to relate to, like horses, panthers and dinosaurs. So much detail in every little tiny thing they showed, it was just incredible.

    Also their underwear looked like thongs to me lol, and the way they were plugging themselves to the animals reminded me of a universal port like USB, i was just thinking...what if the bird comes with Windows 7? I hope Eywa had the drivers or he'd be so screwed lmao.
  • LuckyPierre

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    Dec 24, 2009 8:49 PM GMT
    Just got tix to see it tomorrow morning at IMAX. 10am show was $9

    I'll come back and read this thread afterwards. icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 24, 2009 8:50 PM GMT
    charlitos said
    I fell in love with the imagination they put into making all these weird looking animals and plants without actually making them look totally out of this world. We could right away find something to relate to, like horses, panthers and dinosaurs. So much detail in every little tiny thing they showed, it was just incredible.

    Also their underwear looked like thongs to me lol, and the way they were plugging themselves to the animals reminded me of a universal port like USB, i was just thinking...what if the bird comes with Windows 7? I hope Eywa had the drivers or he'd be so screwed lmao.


    Being the critic that I am, I tried SO hard to find something wrong with the movie. It didn't stop me from enjoying it, mind you. But I couldn't really find anything aesthetically wrong, UNTIL... The bulldozer that chases them down. Why the fuck does it need to beep? As if it weren't big enough to hear it moving. heh. That's my only complaint! icon_biggrin.gif

    The work put into the environments was definitely my favorite aspect. coupled with the 3-d, I actually had vertigo when they were up on clifftops or tree branches. Amazing. A very believable world, nix the fog. The fog in the floating mountains could have been better.
  • metlboy

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    Dec 24, 2009 9:01 PM GMT
    I haven't seen Fern Gully, but I saw a lot of Dune in Avatar. Plus the standard "straight white guy saves a bunch of minority members who would be screwed without him thus being accepted by them" cliche.
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    Dec 24, 2009 9:03 PM GMT
    metlboy saidI haven't seen Fern Gully, but I saw a lot of Dune in Avatar. Plus the standard "straight white guy saves a bunch of minority members who would be screwed without him thus being accepted by them" cliche.



    true, he should have been gay
  • LifeByTheHorn

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    Dec 24, 2009 9:12 PM GMT
    The story line was quite decent & very current, meaning there are many indigenous tribes living in their jungles or in different environments in our planet & live in harmony with nature. They are absolutely in peril all around the world! This story line will never get old. It is taken from the real life and revamped and brought it to more mythical levels for a visual show ! This was definately not one of your standard action movies!!!