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    Dec 26, 2009 6:36 AM GMT
    Great stuff on false belief systems that will help engage you (hopefully) in some critical thinking about what's real, and, what's not.

    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

    It's very well written.
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    Dec 26, 2009 1:05 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidGreat stuff on false belief systems that will help engage you (hopefully) in some critical thinking about what's real, and, what's not.

    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

    It's very well written.


    It's not very well written at all because God normally answers prayer through people and natural means, not miracles. He does NOT promise to do miracles just because you want him too. LOL Read about Jesus's first recorded mircle of changing water into wine at the wedding reception in John 2: 1-11 and you will see that God does NOT promise to do whatever you tell him to do. "1On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus' mother was there, 2and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. 3When the wine was gone, Jesus' mother said to him, "They have no more wine."
    4"Dear woman, why do you involve me?" Jesus replied, "My time has not yet come." Mary, his own mother, knew that Jesus could fix the problem with no more wine by doing a miracle and making more. In fact she thought because she was is his mother that he would certrainly do what she wanted. But what did Jesus say? "Dear woman, why do you involve me? My time has not yet come" He doesn't even call her "mother" here but "woman." He was teaching his mother a lesson that just because you want me to do a miracle NOW doesn't mean I am going to do what you want, even though you are my mother. Mary thought that Jesus would do whatever she wants because she was his mother. haha. She learned very quickly it doesn't quite work that way. lol Why don't Catholic s learn the lesson that Mary did that day? Why do Catholics still think that if they pray to Mary, she can get Jesus to to whatever she wants when Mary couldn't even get Jesus to do this miracle immediately when she wanted him to? Jesus had to put Mary in her place kind of harshly by calling her "woman" and telling her that she has NO AUTHORITY to tell him what to do, even if she is his own mother. So his answer to her about fixing the problem with no more wine was , "No lady, not now! LOL Later, he finally did do a miracle to show that he was God and had the power to do so, but he did it according to his OWN time table, not his mother. God isn't a genie that will grant every desire and wish we want. LOL because sometimes what we want is NOT according to God's will that he wants to carry out and we are NOT his boss to tell him what to do and he has to do whatever we tell him to do. LOL Check out this article. This is a much better article on prayer.
    http://www.crosswalk.com/spirituallife/11571970/
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    Dec 26, 2009 1:24 PM GMT
    The false belief system is falsely thinking there is no God when there really is.
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    Dec 26, 2009 3:34 PM GMT
    Don't worry, Chucky, Lord Krishna loves you whether you believe in Him or not.
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    Dec 26, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
    The folks with the false belief systems responded as we predicted, with more false declarations and rationalizations demonstrating, even further, just how nuts it all is.

    You see, you cannot defend false belief systems with logic, fact, nor reason (they are, after all, false), so folks come up with all sorts of mumbo jumbo (LOL, "No, God doesn't work with facts."). It's fascinating to watch, but, demonstrates that, under the human condition, many of us are still very weak-minded, even in 2009, and how very dangerous they are.

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    Dec 26, 2009 4:33 PM GMT
    Apparently he won't heal vampires either .. and boy are they pissed .. icon_lol.gif

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    Dec 26, 2009 4:37 PM GMT
    G_Force saidIt's not very well written at all because God normally answers prayer through people and natural means, not miracles.
    Did God tell you that? icon_confused.gif
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    Dec 26, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidGreat stuff on false belief systems that will help engage you (hopefully) in some critical thinking about what's real, and, what's not.

    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

    It's very well written.


    So... If my arm gets chapped off when I'm alive, it's waiting for me in heaven?

    What if I'm trapped in an ice glacier and have to knaw off my hand? and is then eaten by a polar bear before it fully dies, Will jebass be able to reconstruct it? And what if I die before the polar bear will I have to wait for it to die or will I get a complementary from someone else that hasen't died until mine arrives, and in that case to the have sweaters with different arm sizes in haven and will they be off the rack or will I have to wait for special order?

    What if I'm good up until it gets chopped off but start raping and killing when I loose my arm? Will Jebass transfer it to hell for me, and via what method UPS ground? Fed-ex overnight? I mean what it's lost, is it insured and will I get a replacement arm?


    Sooooooo many question someone must have the answers
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    Dec 26, 2009 4:41 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidThe folks with the false belief systems responded as we predicted, with more false declarations and rationalizations demonstrating, even further, just how nuts it all is.


    I wasn't being serious, Chucky. As far as I'm concerned, belief is just mind addicted to ideas, and as such, is very superficial. I find nothing transcendent about addiction to ideas, so I regard any spiritual system that emphasizes religious beliefs to be a spiritual preschool.
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    Dec 26, 2009 4:53 PM GMT
    MsclDrew saidWhat if I'm trapped in an ice glacier and have to knaw off my hand? and is then eaten by a polar bear before it fully dies, Will jebass be able to reconstruct it? And what if I die before the polar bear will I have to wait for it to die or will I get a complementary from someone else that hasen't died until mine arrives, and in that case to the have sweaters with different arm sizes in haven and will they be off the rack or will I have to wait for special order?
    In that case the polar bear probably prayed for a meal .. what .. you want GOD to starve a polar bear? If you had the faith of a polar bear, you could eat an arm too .. you don't deserve an arm icon_redface.gif
    it is better that you not have one so you will stop playing with yourself icon_lol.gif
    Mark 9:43-44 It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. 45 And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into hell.
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    Dec 26, 2009 5:36 PM GMT
    LOL! Great read. Another good one is "The God Delusion" and "God is not Great; How religon poisons everything"

    It's funny that the most rabid religious people are the main supporters of the death penalty; guns and war; and on their knees in bookstores and parks, far more than on their knees praying to a deity that doesn't give a rat's ass about how we are destroying the only planet we can inhabit, lmao.

    Let's not forget that Sunday is generally not a very "diverse" day in this country...Never has been, never will be.
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    Dec 26, 2009 5:40 PM GMT
    WDuane saidLOL! Great read. Another good one is "The God Delusion" and "God is not Great; How religon poisons everything"

    It's funny that the most rabid religious people are the main supporters of the death penalty; guns and war; and on their knees in bookstores and parks, far more than on their knees praying to a deity that doesn't give a rat's ass about how we are destroying the only planet we can inhabit, lmao.

    Let's not forget that Sunday is generally not a very "diverse" day in this country...Never has been, never will be.


    The God Delusion and God is Not Great are two stupid books. Written by men who simply have nothing sensible to say, but love to hear themselves speak, nonetheless.

    There's really nothing logical in any of those two books.
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    Dec 26, 2009 5:51 PM GMT
    G_Force saidThe false belief system is falsely thinking there is no God when there really is.

    Are you fucking kidding me? One would think this topic would no longer come up (about God's existence). It has been argued and argued again. The existence and the NON-existence of God cannot be definitely proven. There is a leap of "faith" on either side to the conclusion.

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    Dec 26, 2009 5:54 PM GMT
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    G_Force saidThe false belief system is falsely thinking there is no God when there really is.

    Are you fucking kidding me? One would think this topic would no longer come up (about God's existence). It has been argued and argued again. The existence and the NON-existence of God cannot be definitely proven. There is a leap of "faith" on either side to the conclusion.



    Shouldn't you have been addressing your ire at the OP instead of a respondent or at least both?
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    Dec 26, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
    reppaT saidJC.png


    And win.

    I thank you.
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    Dec 26, 2009 6:41 PM GMT
    G_Force saidThe false belief system is falsely thinking there is no God when there really is.


    Extraordinary claim. Such claims demand proof. In science, we insist on finding proof to our extraordinary claims, and when we don't find it, or when the evidence appears to be flawed, we jettison the claim for the junk that it is.

    And if god is answering prayers through not through miracles (and I have yet to see or hear of a single legitimate modern day supernatural miracle) but through people, I submit to you that it isn't answering prayers at all. People are solving problems on their own, in particular if they're doing all the work.

    For instance:

    I prayed to god that I would get cookies for Christmas. My sister baked me cookies. Therefore god answered my prayers.

    Insert Santa:

    I asked Santa for cookies for Christmas. My sister baked me cookies. Therefore there is a Santa.

    Sounds foolish, right?

    Reality of the situation:

    I hoped someone would bake me cookies for Christmas. I cannot bake to save my life without a fire extinguisher nearby. My sister, knowing that I like cookies and cannot bake without alerting the local fire department, made cookies for me because she's sweet.

    On the plus side, prayer does burn about 10 calories an hour if you pray really intensely, so there is a benefit to it after all.

    Not that any of this matters. You're free to believe as you will as long as you harm none. I only take issue when that belief mutates into legislative terrorism, physical terrorism, or Sunday morning harassment.

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    Dec 26, 2009 6:59 PM GMT
    Blondizgd said

    Shouldn't you have been addressing your ire at the OP instead of a respondent or at least both?

    No, just at GForce. Chucky knows very well that we cannot prove either way and is simply loling at people with false beliefs systems. GForce could do the same, but instead is trying to further the claim that God exists. The contrary would be equally as laughable.

    There are no absolutes when it comes to an absolute.
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    Dec 26, 2009 7:09 PM GMT
    Pinny said
    There are no absolutes when it comes to an absolute.

    So is that an absolute?

    And Chucky was doing the same thing G_Force is being accused of doing.
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    Dec 26, 2009 7:22 PM GMT
    Another question? Why did God make small penises?
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    Dec 26, 2009 7:53 PM GMT
    Blondizgd saidSo is that an absolute?
    Inherently so, and thus only furthering the point that both sides cannot prove their point.

    Blondizgd said
    And Chucky was doing the same thing G_Force is being accused of doing.


    Chuck started the post with
    Chuckystud said
    Great stuff on false belief systems that will help engage you (hopefully) in some critical thinking about what's real, and, what's not.

    He wanted the reader to "engage in critical thinking" whereas GForce just came out and said "ZOMG GOD ECZESTS HOW CAN U NOT BELEEEEVES"

    The post may have devolved into something else, but from the get go Chucky started it as reflectional piece.
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    Dec 26, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
    Bigsmiles saidAnother question? Why did God make small penises?


    So that WASPS and bodybuilders could .... I'll leave the thought unfinished...
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    Dec 26, 2009 7:59 PM GMT
    Pinny said
    Blondizgd saidSo is that an absolute?
    Inherently so, and thus only furthering the point that both sides cannot prove their point.


    You are an absolutely funny guy icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 26, 2009 8:05 PM GMT
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    G_Force saidIt's not very well written at all because God normally answers prayer through people and natural means, not miracles.
    Did God tell you that? icon_confused.gif


    Beuller? Beuller? Beuller? Did ${deity} tell you that?
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    Dec 26, 2009 8:07 PM GMT
    paradox saidDon't worry, Chucky, Lord Krishna loves you whether you believe in Him or not.


    The Lord God also loves you, Chucky, whether you beleive in him or not. But beleiving in him is like an open heart that receives his love. Unbelief is a closed heart, that doesn't beleive he even exists or that doesn't beleive he does love you.