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    Dec 26, 2009 6:42 PM GMT
    Apparently that word took its meaning to a whole new level.

    gay seems to equal "thats not cool" or "thats lame" in some way. However I dont find it insulting, I actually use the term under such conditions every now and then. Probably many of you think that's just wrong but to me its just a word so please feel free to debate and disagree.
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    Dec 26, 2009 6:46 PM GMT
    Do you mean when it's used like "Playing chess is SO gay," as in it's lame or not cool? In that case, I don't think it's insulting but I do think it's a little out of date. Park it in the corner with "groovy" and "rad."

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    Dec 26, 2009 6:47 PM GMT
    I actually just saw a commercial 20 mins ago w/ Hillary duff scolding these two grls who were shopping and describing their uncool look as being so GAY. Boy did she let them have it! (LOL) Part of you knows it's wrg. but I also feel the same way about guys running around trying to embrace the term Nigger. Some things just won't be cool no matter how you swing it.
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    Dec 26, 2009 6:50 PM GMT
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    Dec 26, 2009 7:00 PM GMT
    djdorchester2 saidDo you mean when it's used like "Playing chess is SO gay," as in it's lame or not cool? In that case, I don't think it's insulting but I do think it's a little out of date. Park it in the corner with "groovy" and "rad."




    young guys use the expression a lot(including teenagers), I dont think its any close to "expire"...if anything its just getting worse.
  • Webster666

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    Dec 26, 2009 7:28 PM GMT
    I disagree.
    Would you say, "That's so nigger !" "That's so kike !" "That's so wet back !" ??

    While there's certainly nothing with the word gay being used in a positive manner, it is definitely degrading to use it in a negative manner.
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    Dec 26, 2009 8:32 PM GMT
    Yes and before Gay was hijacked to mean homosexual, it meant bright and happy. Then homosexual, and now dumb, not cool, so on. But it's not the only word with more than one meaning. As language is a living thing.

    Since I don't stand under the banner of gay anyway, it's of no bother to me what is done with it, or to it. I'm content being the "only fag in the village."
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    Dec 26, 2009 8:45 PM GMT
    I think it's suitable for all applications and since I only use it with other gay guys or lesbians they always know what I mean ( I think). When I use it to make fun of something it's endearing anyway. "Do these muscles make me look gay?"
  • Delivis

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    Dec 26, 2009 8:53 PM GMT
    It is still used constantly, and in almost all cases, it carries a perjorative tone.
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    Dec 26, 2009 9:02 PM GMT
    Delivis saidIt is still used constantly, and in almost all cases, it carries a pejorative tone.


    Yes and in doing do, matching the action.
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    Dec 26, 2009 9:08 PM GMT
    South Park recently did an episode similar to this discussion but handling the word "fag."

    http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251889

    It's pretty funny while stressing the idea that the meaning of a word can evolve or mutate--for better or worse.

    The only thing episode doesn't address (at least from what I remember of it) is that despite a word's evolution it can still be used in a derogatory manner within culture, regardless of the dominant connotations of the time.
  • kietkat

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    Dec 26, 2009 9:26 PM GMT
    Lol I had just recently encountered this situation with some students of mine. I heard them using the term "dude that's sooo gay" while chatting in class so I went right up to them and asked "heys guys so what does that mean anyway?". Of course I knew exactly what it means, just wanted to hear it from the mouths of babes. But alas, as I suspected they were too chicken shit to tell me. I think if you're gonna be using put-down words at least have the guts to admit it. IMO such terms are meant to be insulting.
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    Dec 26, 2009 9:30 PM GMT
    I don't find it personally insulting, but I can see how it would be. It just adds to the stigma that gay is wrong. It's that little edge of "I don't belong" for the younger gays who aren't comfortable enough in their skin yet to come out or let things like that brush off their shoulder.
  • jrs1

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    Dec 26, 2009 9:58 PM GMT
    this thread is so gay ... but then again ... that's not pejorative ... it's factual.

    to personify actions, materials, and values as ' gay ... ' is to not only conform but to use such a word as a connotative malapropism.

    e.g., " that is so [I don't actually know what else to say in my descriptive vocabulary at the moment to describe this situation, that object, or what that person believes ... so ... I'll be passive-aggressive instead]. "

    I never post this vid. because I am not a fan of Lilly Allen, but ... it's appropriate:


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    Dec 26, 2009 10:12 PM GMT
    Gay as a perjorative has a stigma because we are held in low esteem by the larger society. If we called ourselves "ginger ale" teenagers would be saying, "that's so ginger ale." They do it because they can, because society not only condones, but encourages it.

    Who gives a shit about a word? Fight for full and equal rights and protection under the law. We are in our infancy in our struggle for a full and fair role in society. Then sue the bastards.
  • jlly_rnchr

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    Dec 26, 2009 11:30 PM GMT
    Yeah, I never use it, and don't like it when people do. There's a new girl in my lab and every other phrase out of her mouth is "that's really gay", "so gay", etc. I'm gonna lock her in the hood if she doesn't cut it out.
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    Dec 27, 2009 12:45 AM GMT
    charlitos saidApparently that word took its meaning to a whole new level.

    gay seems to equal "thats not cool" or "thats lame" in some way. However I dont find it insulting, I actually use the term under such conditions every now and then. Probably many of you think that's just wrong but to me its just a word so please feel free to debate and disagree.


    Yes....yes it did..... Sometime in 1994,
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    Dec 27, 2009 12:50 AM GMT
    jlly_rnchr saidYeah, I never use it, and don't like it when people do. There's a new girl in my lab and every other phrase out of her mouth is "that's really gay", "so gay", etc. I'm gonna lock her in the hood if she doesn't cut it out.


    You know i too work with a few young Nurses who now use the term "thats so gay"! It's just an old word with a new meaning. I let it slide, albeit I did say once "thats so heterosexual!" Many gay people act in a way, that can drive heterosexuals, and even other homosexuals nuts, and they are expected to get over it, or labeled..............
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    Dec 27, 2009 12:51 AM GMT
    MsclDrew said
    charlitos saidApparently that word took its meaning to a whole new level.

    gay seems to equal "thats not cool" or "thats lame" in some way. However I dont find it insulting, I actually use the term under such conditions every now and then. Probably many of you think that's just wrong but to me its just a word so please feel free to debate and disagree.


    Yes....yes it did..... Sometime in 1994,


    ur point being?