We haven't talked about Kucinich enough today

  • jc_online

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    Jan 04, 2008 6:19 PM GMT
    With all the hype around Obama, Edwards, and Clinton, I thought we should talk amongst ourselves about Kucinich. He really is the one most in favor of equal rights and equal protections for us. Check out this article and then share your thoughts.

    http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid51398.asp
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    Jan 04, 2008 9:22 PM GMT
    I have liked Dennis Kucinich since his days as the Boy Mayor of Cleveland, when he and I were both a hell of a lot younger.

    He is too far left for the American populace at the moment, which I do not say with any pleasure. I'd vote for him; I'd even go out and campaign for him. But in the current climate he's just not viable.
  • jarhead5536

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    Jan 04, 2008 9:34 PM GMT
    As I duck to avoid the bricks while saying this, Kucinich is actually too liberal for me, and I'm pretty damned liberal. A Department of Peace? Please.

    That, and what has he done for his constituents lately? He spends so much time tilting at the Presidential windmill and being everyone's favorite Socialist that he can't spend much time in the House doing his job...

    He is quite brave, however, for being so unapologetic about his liberalism/socialism...
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    Jan 04, 2008 11:29 PM GMT
    The fact that a "Department of Peace" sounds ridiculous to so many Americans says more about the USA than it does about Kucinich. Sad.

    There is nothing wrong with the word peace.
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    Jan 04, 2008 11:33 PM GMT
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    Jan 04, 2008 11:39 PM GMT
    and?
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    Jan 04, 2008 11:41 PM GMT
    Have to agree with Rugger, on this one. It seems we can't function properly as a society without a governmental department for every conceivable need so I'd rather my money be spent on something worthwhile like peace icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 04, 2008 11:45 PM GMT
    There is nothing wrong with peace. Peace is a hope and people everywhere need hope in times of struggle or crisis.

    Yet how can an organization promote peace? Unless nation agree to abide by this department when it holds no influence. The department of peace is just a new name to a UN built by the US.

    Without acceptance across the globe there will always be those to oppose the departments work. Then the department must fall to being dependent on the US military to enforce its decisions. Unless it enforces its decisions it remains just an organization of hollow talk and dreams.

    The department of peace would just be another way to spend taxpayers money.
    How can we trust what the US considers to be road to peace? Is every nation going to accept it, or are we just going to use our power to enforce our ideals of peace.

    If we want peace we should make the first move by eliminating our own entire military force,and ending our global police actions.
  • metta

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    Jan 05, 2008 12:18 AM GMT
    The media should be fired. They treated him like a joke. They asked him questions about his wife's pierced tongue rather than the issues.

    I still may vote for him.

    He asked his supporters to vote for Obama. I'm wondering if Kucinich helped Obama win in Iowa.
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    Jan 05, 2008 12:49 AM GMT
    The beltway media can't tolerate anyone who doesn't humor their adolescent brains. Glenn Greenwald has a great post about that relative to Hillary:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/03/hillary_bus/index.html



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    Jan 05, 2008 4:48 AM GMT
    A Department of Peace would never work as long as the national government doesn't make peace part of the national political and strategic goals of this country.

    Peace is a lofty, ambitious, and nobel goal but will never be attained while we have enemies that don't share our system of values, democracy, or freedoms.

    Just my two cents.

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    Jan 05, 2008 4:59 AM GMT
    Does not sharing our values, freedoms, and democracy make them enemies? Does not sharing our values, freedoms, and democracy eliminate peaceful means of settling those differences? Please clarify, because what I read from your reply sounds pretty twisted at first glance.
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    Jan 05, 2008 5:07 AM GMT
    Oh come on, guys, give peace a chance.



    Even GWB can imagine that.


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    Jan 05, 2008 6:44 AM GMT
    GWB couldn't imagine peace if he was unconscious choking on a pretzle....oh wait he tried that. or maybe if Chenney told him to imagine it...icon_razz.gif
  • metta

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    Jan 05, 2008 6:56 AM GMT
    Glad to see Kucinich not taking it lying down icon_smile.gif

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080105/ap_on_el_pr/abc_debate

    Kucinich files complaint on ABC debate Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich filed a complaint with the FCC on Friday after ABC News excluded him, fellow Democrat Mike Gravel and Republican Duncan Hunter from its prime-time debates on Saturday.
    Kucinich argued that ABC is violating equal-time provisions by keeping him out of the debate and noted that ABC's parent Walt Disney Co. had contributed to campaigns involving the four Democrats who were invited.
    "ABC should not be the first primary," the Ohio congressman said in papers filed at the Federal Communications Commission.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jan 05, 2008 1:32 PM GMT
    I don't think of Dennis Kuninich much on any day.. .not seriously at any rate.......
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    Jan 05, 2008 1:36 PM GMT
    For what it is worth, I'll be voting for DK in the primary in Florida on January 29th. If he's not on the ballot, I guess I'll vote for Obama. I like Dennis and none of the others to be honest.