Is the Pope the Antichrist?

  • metta

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    Dec 27, 2009 6:41 AM GMT






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    Dec 27, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
    Well for sure right now he is the Anti-Gay!
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    Dec 27, 2009 5:02 PM GMT
    Nah, not everyone trusts him or looks up to him. Humanity must believe the antichrist is here to save the world, everyones adores the antichrist and can do no harm. I believe it's Oprah. LOL.
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    Dec 27, 2009 5:03 PM GMT
    No, according to my kindergarten teacher, I am the anti-christ. icon_confused.gif
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    Dec 27, 2009 5:03 PM GMT
    No... he's human. Ignorant, but human.
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    Dec 27, 2009 5:08 PM GMT
    In a word...yes.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 27, 2009 5:08 PM GMT
    According to some christians it is Obama
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    Dec 27, 2009 5:10 PM GMT
    Well, being an ex-Nazi helps a claim to his being the anti-Christ. But such a dread title gives him more credit than he's due. He's a hateful bigot, for sure, but of diminishing influence on the world stage. A transitional figure in the church, his time will be fleeting, his impact feeble. Simply ignore him for now, as he earns himself a mere footnote in history.
  • GoodPup

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    Dec 27, 2009 5:14 PM GMT
    Blondizgd saidAccording to some christians it is Obama


    Haha! Obviously you haven't polled all christians.
  • GoodPup

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    Dec 27, 2009 5:15 PM GMT
    I think the next Pope will be the false prophet that paves the way for the anti-christ to come onto the scene.
    Just my opinion... no real facts to back it up.
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    Dec 27, 2009 5:16 PM GMT
    jesus-facepalm-facepalm-jesus-epic-demot
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    Dec 27, 2009 5:17 PM GMT
    Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    He rules in a country other than his own.

    And everyone totally loves Arnie, c'mon.



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    Dec 27, 2009 5:24 PM GMT
    JaseinOC said
    Blondizgd saidAccording to some christians it is Obama


    Haha! Obviously you haven't polled all christians.


    Well true that. Only the ones on the following site. 90% of them have ascribed the communist/socialist and yet anti-christ moniker to President Obama

    http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/
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    Dec 27, 2009 5:24 PM GMT
    What a sickening thought!
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    Dec 27, 2009 5:27 PM GMT
    matador saidNah, not everyone trusts him or looks up to him. Humanity must believe the antichrist is here to save the world, everyones adores the antichrist and can do no harm. I believe it's Oprah. LOL.


    I vote oprah too.


    Besides, the pope made littering a cardinal sin icon_razz.gif whoot!
  • Sebastian18

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    Dec 27, 2009 5:35 PM GMT
    Chances are, for those who subscribe to a Judeo-Christian (*emphasis mine) worldview, the Pope has traditionally been vilified as the Anti-Christ by any particular group of people who personally disagreed with him since at least the sacking of Constantinople which paved the way for the Great Schism between the Eastern and Western Churches.

    To add weight to this, anyone could use selective pieces of the scripture to justify their arguments that the Pope, Obama, George Bush (1 & 2), the Queen, Osama bin Ladin, and any number of people are the anti-Christ. The downside to this, is that it's largely scraps of scripture that, when put back into context, hardly make any sense at all.

    As a fun exercise, take a piece of scripture from Leviticus, Exodus, Chronicles and maybe throw in a random piece of Paul talking against idolatry and you can more or less have a Biblical "I hate you and you're Evil" Mad-Lib.

    In summary - no, the pope's not the Anti-Christ. Well-educated, yes; influential, definitely; knowledgeable about philosophy and many of the liberal sciences - without a doubt; a douche... well, that's about as bad as he gets.

    That being said, here's a great, "Pope is the Anti-Christ" image from the Reformation:

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    "Ego sum Papa" (I am the Pope). From a Reformation handbill against Pope Alexander VI, Paris, late 15th century

  • wellwell

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    Dec 27, 2009 6:15 PM GMT
    ask the Rastas'
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    Dec 27, 2009 7:04 PM GMT
    Sebastian18 said"Ego sum Papa" (I am the Pope). From a Reformation handbill against Pope Alexander VI, Paris, late 15th century

    Late 15th-Century? The Reformation didn't begin until the early 1500s, which is the 16th Century. It's true Alexander's Papacy was from 1492 to 1503, but that predated the Reformation, which began in 1517, when Martin Luther nailed his Ninety-Five Theses on the Power and Efficacy of Indulgences to the door of the All Saints' Church in Wittenberg, Saxony (a Germanic state).

    Or is that handbill against Alexander many years after his death? A citation would be helpful.
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    Dec 27, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
    Actually, I'M the Anti-christ. Sorry guys. Prepare to do my will *wicked grin*
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    Dec 27, 2009 8:39 PM GMT
    This thread first made me think of Arnie, and then....
    ZLAD!



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    Dec 27, 2009 8:45 PM GMT
    The Pope wears Prada.
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    Dec 27, 2009 8:58 PM GMT
    The Pope is only the anti-Christ if you take the Book of Revelation literally.

    Fear only has power over you if you give in to it.

  • dannyboy1101

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    Dec 27, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
    Well, who's to say which Pope? If every pope gets the same title, then it could be one yet to come who may actually try to unite everyone with progressive ideas such as gay marriage being acceptable. Sounds like a good defense for keeping bigots in the big chair.
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    Dec 27, 2009 10:07 PM GMT
    So the Book of Revelations says the Pope is the AntiChrist huh..Funny its the Catholic Church who decided what books ended up in the Bible.So I guess they forgot to eliminate those passages lol.These Anti Catholic posts show that good looks def dont equal brains. Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.I will give you the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven.Whatsoever you bind on earth is bound in heaven and whatsoever you loose on earth is loosed in heaven.As the Church was founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ nobody,,,kings,emperors,communists,atheists,humanists or militant gay billionaires will ever be able to destroy her.So boys stop rolling this stone up the hill,Aint gonna happen.icon_smile.gif Its been tried before many many times!
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    Dec 27, 2009 10:15 PM GMT
    dannyboy1101 saidWell, who's to say which Pope? If every pope gets the same title, then it could be one yet to come who may actually try to unite everyone with progressive ideas such as gay marriage being acceptable. Sounds like a good defense for keeping bigots in the big chair.


    Jesus said the idealogy of the Anti-Christ was already in the church in his day and that the revealing of this would come in the future. We certainly have seen the revealing of the Anti-Christ in the history of the papacy who have set themself up in God's temple as the Vicar of Christ (i.e. god) because the papacy claims infalibility when they speak offically from their papal authority. The Roman Catholic Church teaches that when the pope speaks from his papal chair, that this is the same as Christ speaking directly himself. Therefore, the popes can introduce new teachings and doctrines that are not in Scripture and that even contradict the Scriptures. Many of the doctrines of Roman Catholic Church do NOT come from Scripture, but rather from individual popes who established these doctines, such as "the Assumption of Mary," the Immaculate Conception of Mary," and "Puragtory." The expression they use for the pope , "Vicar of Christ" means "in the place of Christ." This is the very definition in Scripture of who the Anti-Christ is. The ideology of the Anti-Christ and papacy was already in the church at the time of Christ with the office of the High Priest and it became revealed and full blown in the papacy..