Should Marijuana Be Decriminalized In Your State?

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    Dec 28, 2009 7:49 PM GMT
    So much money is spent by government to go after, prosecute and jail people who smoke marijuana.

    Shouldn't marijuana be treated like booze?

    Rep. Mary Lou Dickerson, a Seattle Democrat who is sponsoring a legalization bill in Washington state, said that she "wanted to start a strong conversation about the pros and cons of legalizing marijuana."

    Under her bill, marijuana would be sold in Washington state's 160 state-run liquor stores, and customers, 21 and older, would pay a tax of 15 percent per gram. The measure would dedicate most of the money raised for substance abuse prevention and treatment, which is facing potential cuts in the state budget. Dickerson said the measure could eventually bring in as much to state coffers as alcohol does, more than $300 million a year.

    What do you think?
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    Dec 28, 2009 9:21 PM GMT
    I don't care much for any "drug" and prefer a natural state of mind, but really I don't think marijuana is any different in effect than drinking alcohol. I also think alcohol is the most abused drug and more harmful than marijuana.

    Too much money is spent on these kinds of prohibitionist laws and I think it probably does more harm than good.

    I don't think that smoking of any kind should be permitted in public places because others are forced to inhale it otherwise. I also think that cigarette smoke stinks including the marijuana smoke I have smelled at concerts .. YUCK!
  • yogadudeSEATT...

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    Dec 28, 2009 9:23 PM GMT
    I live in Seattle. I say, hell yeah. It's about time.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Dec 28, 2009 9:27 PM GMT
    It's almost become a joke that marijuana is illegal. I was down on the Venice Beach boardwalk yesterday, and there is actually a doctor set up in an office there. You just go in and explain your ailment -- sore back, migraine headaches, depression, sleep disorder, whatever --- and the doc writes you a prescription for medicinal marijuana. It's crazy! The government may as well just officially legalize it, tax it, and start making some money off of it. Better the state make the money than the drug dealers.
  • iHavok

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    Dec 28, 2009 9:32 PM GMT
    Until they can find an economical, fast way to test whether it's influencing your reaction speed enough to make you a danger to others (for police pulling over drivers), no, it shouldn't.
  • jgymnast733

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    Dec 28, 2009 9:39 PM GMT
    No it shouldnt be legalized,
    Once the high becomes routine you'll seek something stronger, and so on, and so on, ext...icon_idea.gif
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    Dec 28, 2009 9:56 PM GMT
    jgymnast733 saidNo it shouldnt be legalized,
    Once the high becomes routine you'll seek something stronger, and so on, and so on, ext...icon_idea.gif


    Do you feel that alcohol should be illegal as well? What are you thoughts on tobacco? Caffeine?
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    Dec 28, 2009 10:03 PM GMT
    ALL recreational drugs should be legalized, screened for purity, sold in liquor stores and TAXED. no purchases without age limits and IDs. the world's largest industry will then be legitimate and the world's largest source of organized (and disorganized) crime will go to hell in a handbasket as its raison d'etre is destroyed. the states' and U.S.'s coffers will fill and the taxes can be used to fund universal healthcare and addiction programs. prisons could release nonviolent drug offenders, costs to the states would drop and law enforcement could focus on real crime... and on and on.

    contrary to popular belief, legalizing drugs will not make it easier to access drugs. needle exchange programs don't make people that don't already do heroin want to run out and try it. people that want drugs get them now... they just feed the underground and illegal trade in doing so.

    so many good arguments for legalization... very few serious ones against.
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    Dec 28, 2009 10:06 PM GMT
    briarhawk saidUntil they can find an economical, fast way to test whether it's influencing your reaction speed enough to make you a danger to others (for police pulling over drivers), no, it shouldn't.


    In fact we now have Drug testing for drivers, as well as alcohol in the State of Victoria Australia, and American authorities have been looking at it, and possibly introducing it in the States.
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    Dec 28, 2009 11:50 PM GMT
    jgymnast733 saidNo it shouldnt be legalized,
    Once the high becomes routine you'll seek something stronger, and so on, and so on, ext...icon_idea.gif


    That's propaganda, not backed by research. This simply is NOT true.

    The growth industry that is law enforcement, incarceration, and their allied services would like you to believe this, but, it's been known for a very long time that's not at all true. In Europe, and in particular, Amsterdam, years of study have documented much LOWER hard drug use where pot was tolerated. Just the facts, please. In fact, the violence rate is much lower, as well, where alcohol is not the first drug of choice.
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    Dec 29, 2009 12:17 AM GMT
    Absolutely legalize. The same restrictions as alcohol should be upheld, but otherwise puff and pass icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 29, 2009 1:13 AM GMT
    rightasrain saidALL recreational drugs should be legalized, screened for purity, sold in liquor stores and TAXED. no purchases without age limits and IDs. the world's largest industry will then be legitimate and the world's largest source of organized (and disorganized) crime will go to hell in a handbasket as their raison d'etre is destroyed. the states' and U.S.'s coffers will fill and the taxes can be used to fund universal healthcare and addiction programs. prisons could release nonviolent drug offenders, costs to the states would drop and law enforcement could focus on real crime... and on and on.

    contrary to popular belief, legalizing drugs will not make it easier to access drugs. needle exchange programs don't make people that don't already do heroin want to run out and try it. people that want drugs get them now... they just feed the underground and illegal trade in doing so.

    so many good arguments for legalization... very few serious ones against.


    thanks. you stated all the points i wanted to make.
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    Dec 29, 2009 1:50 AM GMT
    chuckystud said
    jgymnast733 saidNo it shouldnt be legalized,
    Once the high becomes routine you'll seek something stronger, and so on, and so on, ext...icon_idea.gif


    That's propaganda, not backed by research. This simply is NOT true.

    The growth industry that is law enforcement, incarceration, and their allied services would like you to believe this, but, it's been known for a very long time that's not at all true. In Europe, and in particular, Amsterdam, years of study have documented much LOWER hard drug use where pot was tolerated. Just the facts, please. In fact, the violence rate is much lower, as well, where alcohol is not the first drug of choice.

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    Dec 29, 2009 1:59 AM GMT
    GwgTrunks said
    jgymnast733 saidNo it shouldnt be legalized,
    Once the high becomes routine you'll seek something stronger, and so on, and so on, ext...icon_idea.gif


    Do you feel that alcohol should be illegal as well? What are you thoughts on tobacco? Caffeine?

    Good point,
    AckyHall can be deadly [as we know] if used ir-responsibly,
    Caffeine i'm not sure about..and
    Tobacco should be banned altogether...
    just my opinion...
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    Jan 06, 2010 10:20 PM GMT
    In Colorado, it is may as well be legal. There are over 360 medical marijuana dispensaries in just Denver alone, more than all of the Starbucks in the state. Funny thing is, from what I hear from my friends who have the easy to get license, it is cheaper than what is sold on the streets and it is all local, no cartels involved. The State would be smart to legalize it at this point since Denver and now Breckenridge have decriminalized it.
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    Jan 06, 2010 10:40 PM GMT
    rightasrain saidALL recreational drugs should be legalized, screened for purity, sold in liquor stores and TAXED. no purchases without age limits and IDs. the world's largest industry will then be legitimate and the world's largest source of organized (and disorganized) crime will go to hell in a handbasket as their raison d'etre is destroyed. the states' and U.S.'s coffers will fill and the taxes can be used to fund universal healthcare and addiction programs. prisons could release nonviolent drug offenders, costs to the states would drop and law enforcement could focus on real crime... and on and on.

    contrary to popular belief, legalizing drugs will not make it easier to access drugs. needle exchange programs don't make people that don't already do heroin want to run out and try it. people that want drugs get them now... they just feed the underground and illegal trade in doing so.

    so many good arguments for legalization... very few serious ones against.



    I couldn't agree more. i think at a maximum of 10 years from now, marijuana will be legal and treated/taxed just like alcohol. and honestly, the US government should do the same with every other illegal drug.

    the thing that boggles my mind the most, is just why the line is drawn where it is? i mean, the drugs you can purchase legally, like cough medicine, energy supplements, let alone prescription medication, can literally kill you. yet marijuana has had such an inaccurate negative stigma attached for so long.

    i cannot wait to wave my pot flag freely! icon_lol.gif
  • nadaquever_rm

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    Jan 06, 2010 10:41 PM GMT
    Yes, it should be legalized. There is no benefit to the current situation, and too many resources are wasted trying to fight it.
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    Jan 06, 2010 10:51 PM GMT
    Oh shit!! Is it illegal??? icon_eek.gif
    *flushing and typing at the same time but eyes are on the fridge*

    marijuana is like anything else, it's only as detrimental to good judgment and personal and public safety as the person using it.
    *toke, toke pass*
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    Jan 06, 2010 10:55 PM GMT
    A handful of states have decriminalized pot, including Mass. If you've got nothing more than an ounce on you, it's a $100 fine... no arrest, nothing on your record. Honestly, police don't even bother unless you're trying to sell it or have a pound on you. Not that I am speaking from experience. But damn, what's so wrong with minding your own biz, walking along the beach with a joint???

    So the brother of a prominent politician here obviously loved that image while on the beach in Provincetown this past Fall. No crime, why not? He sparked up a spliff. Cops approached him, told him he was on the Cape Cod National Seashore, federal property not state. He was arrested and charged with criminal possession, all over the papers. OOOPS. And to boot, he wasn't "out" until this incident forced his hand. DOUBLE OOPS.

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    Jan 06, 2010 10:57 PM GMT
    Yes. All these states and the federal government are hard up for cash and could make so many taxes from legalizing marijuana as well as other drugs. I know it may sound crazy, but we spend oodles of money enforcing drugs, make no tax revenue but continue to sell other lethal drugs such as alcohol and cigarettes.

    I say legalize 'em all and if people choose to take them so be it. You can still teach why they're bad but people are doing them anyway.
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    Jan 06, 2010 10:57 PM GMT
    sluggo_la said
    rightasrain saidALL recreational drugs should be legalized, screened for purity, sold in liquor stores and TAXED. no purchases without age limits and IDs. the world's largest industry will then be legitimate and the world's largest source of organized (and disorganized) crime will go to hell in a handbasket as their raison d'etre is destroyed. the states' and U.S.'s coffers will fill and the taxes can be used to fund universal healthcare and addiction programs. prisons could release nonviolent drug offenders, costs to the states would drop and law enforcement could focus on real crime... and on and on.

    contrary to popular belief, legalizing drugs will not make it easier to access drugs. needle exchange programs don't make people that don't already do heroin want to run out and try it. people that want drugs get them now... they just feed the underground and illegal trade in doing so.

    so many good arguments for legalization... very few serious ones against.


    thanks. you stated all the points i wanted to make.
    I second that thanks. A lot of money and resources are spent fighting the cultivation, use and distribution that could be better spent elsewhere if it were legalized and controlled. An unbelievable expense.
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    Jan 06, 2010 11:12 PM GMT
    briarhawk saidUntil they can find an economical, fast way to test whether it's influencing your reaction speed enough to make you a danger to others (for police pulling over drivers), no, it shouldn't.


    Yeah, because keeping it illegal means that NO ONE drives while under the influence. Good logic.

    Please, grow up.

    Nothing is fool proof, so just make things less foolish.
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    Jan 06, 2010 11:20 PM GMT
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    briarhawk saidUntil they can find an economical, fast way to test whether it's influencing your reaction speed enough to make you a danger to others (for police pulling over drivers), no, it shouldn't.


    Yeah, because keeping it illegal means that NO ONE drives while under the influence. Good logic.

    Please, grow up.

    Nothing is fool proof, so just make things less foolish.



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    Jan 06, 2010 11:23 PM GMT
    For all the road blocks, breathalyzers and deterrents, people still drink and drive. And I'd rather a stoned driver than a drunk driver.
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    Jan 06, 2010 11:46 PM GMT
    MeOhMy saidFor all the road blocks, breathalyzers and deterrents, people still drink and drive. And I'd rather a stoned driver than a drunk driver.



    But would you rather be stoned or drunk? Scratch that, maybe I'll start a new thread on that topic and see what kind of hell I can raise.