Skin Care......Facials (not that)

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    Dec 29, 2009 1:21 AM GMT
    Hey guys. Just turned 43 (ouch) and just now noticing all the sun damage that I did to my face over the years without any SPF protection. Since I live on the coast and I play lots of outdoor sports, this past year was really the first year that I applied a high SPF and wore a bball cap. But the damage is done.

    I've been looking around online and in stores to find the best products to help repair some of the damage I've done, but there are so many products and home remedies my head is spinning. If I can, I'd like to keep it simple without having to apply several different products. Plus, I have oily skin and whatever I've applied in the past seems to make that problem worse.

    Should I go to a Nordstroms or a Macys and ask the white jacket ladies or can anyone here help me out?

    I have some freckles and larger "age" spots areas mostly on my forehead/temple area that I'd like to concentrate on.

    Any help/advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks guys.
  • jgymnast733

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    Dec 29, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
    Clinique has great products, ask the counter people for suggestions on what you'll need.. I use the ladies [skin texure lotion] from clinique , it'll stop the hands of time.....icon_eek.gif
  • baldone

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    Dec 29, 2009 1:50 AM GMT
    jgymnast733 saidClinique has great products, ask the counter people for suggestions on what you'll need.. I use the ladies [skin texure lotion] from clinique , it'll stop the hands of time.....icon_eek.gif
    yes but will it reverse it
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    Dec 29, 2009 2:01 AM GMT
    Like Tony says, bottled stuff wont help much.

    Go consult a dermatologist, they will be able to truly evaluate your skin condition and guide you in the right direction, anything from topical creams to light therapy, facial peels and so on.
  • jgymnast733

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    Dec 29, 2009 2:08 AM GMT
    baldone said
    jgymnast733 saidClinique has great products, ask the counter people for suggestions on what you'll need.. I use the ladies [skin texure lotion] from clinique , it'll stop the hands of time.....icon_eek.gif
    yes but will it reverse it

    Yes, just look at me...
    Skin texture lotion is so good--i now look like LOLA FALANA,, not only did it reverse the ravages of time but gave me the face of true beauty.........
    okay, i guess you can tell i'v had a few.....
  • jgymnast733

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    Dec 29, 2009 2:09 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidLike Tony says, bottled stuff wont help much.

    Go consult a dermatologist, they will be able to truly evaluate your skin condition and guide you in the right direction, anything from topical creams to light therapy, facial peels and so on.

    LilTanker is right though...!!!!!
  • barriehomeboy

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    Dec 29, 2009 2:20 AM GMT
    The people with dry skin have the problems. You're the lucky one we all wish we were. There are no products that really work to protect you, because mother nature has done it already. Enjoy! The sun damage has been done and the wrinkles you have won't go away, aside from hydrating. Driinking lots. Water I mean. yikes california Not booze, water.
  • josephmovie

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    Dec 29, 2009 2:25 AM GMT
    I know what you mean. I tried a series of laser treatments and was rather stunned at the result. I had developed large red patches on the side of my face and now they are virtually gone. The overall quality of my skin has really improved. It's pretty much like it was in late 20s now.

    However, if ypu do decide to do this I strongly suggest that you get an area of your face done as a trial before going for the full face. I was bruised, red and swollen for nearly three weeks after my first treatment, to the point where I was genuinely worried that I was going to be scarred. It worked out fine but took a few weeks to heal.

    If that isn't something you want to do, try St Ives Microdermabrasion scrub and Olay Regenerist Serum. Won't change things drastically, but they work well for me.

  • jgymnast733

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    Dec 29, 2009 2:25 AM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor said
    jgymnast733 said
    baldone said
    jgymnast733 saidClinique has great products, ask the counter people for suggestions on what you'll need.. I use the ladies [skin texure lotion] from clinique , it'll stop the hands of time.....icon_eek.gif
    yes but will it reverse it

    Yes, just look at me...
    Skin texture lotion is so good--i now look like LOLA FALANA,, not only did it reverse the ravages of time but gave me the face of true beauty.........
    okay, i guess you can tell i'v had a few.....

    Oh Lola.. do share your beauty secrets! Inquiring minds want to know...icon_cool.gif hehe...
    Lola Pictures, Images and Photos

    Oh, Da-ling....It's the secret of the TIGRESS.............
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    Dec 29, 2009 2:49 AM GMT
    Thanks for the advice guys.

    Didn't expect any links to Lola Falana but at least I know who she is. If only....
  • Neon_Dreams

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    Dec 29, 2009 2:58 AM GMT
    Has anyone seen visible results through glycolic acid peels? What about laser resurfacing? I'm interested in the details, especially personal accounts.


    Joe
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    Dec 29, 2009 3:07 AM GMT
    You look perfectly alright to me. Nonetheless, I would recommend that you see a dermatologist to discuss possible remedies. Careful with laser treatment though. It can totally backfire.
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    Dec 29, 2009 3:14 AM GMT
    skinceuticals makes a vitamin c serum that works very well. I did the UV light thing and it showed I had some spots on my forehead that were not yet visible. I used the serum till it was gone and next time I did the IV light thing the spots were gone. It's rather spendy, but lasts a long time.
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    Dec 29, 2009 3:21 AM GMT
    I like the skinceuticals retinol. I use it every night. It took awhile for my skin to get used to it, but I can definitely see results.
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    Dec 29, 2009 4:59 AM GMT
    Shiseido Collagen or any pure collagen pills can really help sun damaged skin. Also Biore Colagen. icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 29, 2009 5:17 AM GMT
    I would personally avoid the counter at the department stores until you've done some research. Those ladies will turn your head so fast, you'll end up buying stuff you don't need.

    I have oily skin as well, so I always make sure to find products that help absorb the excess oil. Biotherm is a pretty good brand, and they have several products that help matify the oils.

    When you do see a dermatologist, see if you can get a photo scan under uv light to see the extent of your sun damage.

    For a topical lotion, you can try using products with Glycolic acid, but you will have to use sunscreen religiously afterwards.
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    Dec 29, 2009 5:31 AM GMT
    wow, i use nothing other than soap and water...but maybe i should start.
  • LatinUomo

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    Jan 06, 2010 9:59 PM GMT
    Any products with retinol in it. Save your money on expensive products and try Neutrogena Ageless Intensive products. They work!
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    Jan 07, 2010 10:05 AM GMT
    Hydrate. Drink lot's of water and wash your face w/ Noxzeema!
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    Jan 07, 2010 8:15 PM GMT
    Forget all that department store stuff.

    It sounds like you need IPL (Intense Pulse Light) treatments. I had the same problem and after two treatments, all the frekles, brown spots and discoloration went away.

    Its a laser type treatment and a bit pricey (maybe $150 bucks a shot) but worth it. Ask a dermatologist for a recommendation.

    While you are at the dermatologist, ask him for a prescription for Retin-A. Works wonders.

    You can try a chemical peel. It won't be as effective as IPL, but it will probably help. Go to www.perfectpeelsolutions.com. You can get information about the types of peels available and directions on how to do it. Its easy. You can purchase a bottle of the solution and do it yourself at home.

    Skincuticals is good. If you buy an over the counter treatment like that make sure it contains a stabalized form of vitamin C and E. Or you can cheaply buy a ton of stabalized vitamin C and other powdered vitamins that are great for the skin on Ebay and mix it into an inexpensive moisturzer.

    Strivectin is also a great product.

    And wear sunscreen. As a kid, we used to bake in the sun for hours without sun protection. Thank god my skin never turned to leather.
  • fitnfunmich

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    Jan 07, 2010 8:26 PM GMT
    Ok I am admittedly a total product WHORE! You name it, I've tried it. Including the uber expensive stuff (like the Creme Le Mer that I am currently using...)

    Anyway here's the deal: even the best products will at best slow the hands of time, but will not reverse it. To do that, you will have to follow the advice of some other guys on here and have LASER treatments.

    I would recommend a series of 3-4 IPL (Intensed Pulsed Light) to get rid of spots and uneven pigmentation; and a series of 3-4 Pixel treatments (This is a fractionated ablative procedure, which can work miracles but is not for the faint of heart since the recovery time is a good 7-10 days.)

    Also someone recommended retinoids, and I agree. These are prescription topicals used for acne but they are amazing at improving fine wrinkles. However you can't use them if you A) are exposing yourself to too much Sun, or B) are having any of the LASER procedures done.

    In addition to all the above, you should consider Botox treatments which supplement the effects of the others nicely, and if you have really deep wrinkles not corrected with the procedures then the next step is fillers like Restylane and Juvederm.

    All told you are looking at a couple thousand bucks and several month's work.

    Ahh the price of vanity...
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    Jan 07, 2010 8:36 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]fitnfunmich said
    Ahh the price of vanity...[/quote]

    Worth every fucking pennyicon_smile.gif
    People spend hours at the gym. Good nutrition. A good haircut. Decent clothes.........Spend some money on the skin treaments discussed here, and you will get the most bang from your buck.

    Although I heard that fillers and botox don't last too long. Plus needles make me cry.
  • fitnfunmich

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    Jan 07, 2010 8:46 PM GMT
    You know Kissing, I agree. Go to Southern Florida or Cali and so many guys are GORGEOUS--from the neck down... They always seem to ignore the face for some reason. Do they think it's "girly" to use a moisturizer every day?!?

    Anyway Botox lasts a few months, and fillers a few more, but neither is permament. (Although the effects tend to get better with repeated use.)

    But yes--most definitely I agree that it's worth the money, just like getting a nice body is worth the time and pain at the gym.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 07, 2010 8:53 PM GMT
    Having lived 4 years in hawaii as a kid, and college in Arizona, I got WAY more sun than I should have so, naturally, I've tried everything. There is no better treatment out there than the Fraxel Laser Peels -- short down time, non-invasive, pricey but worth every penny.

    http://www.fraxel.com/


    Also, have your doctor prescribe Retin-A (the .05% NOT the .1 percent) and use it religiously -- works wonders. Other than that, not much else you can do but moisturize, mositurize, moisturize. Treat yourself to regular facials too if you want to feel pampered.
  • Celticmusl

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    Jan 07, 2010 9:11 PM GMT
    I would never start with laser therapy or botox. Try the skin care products out there, after you get a face peel. La Mer, which has already been suggested, is a great skin care line. La Prairie also has some great skin products, mostly their caviar line, which is nose-bleed high end in terms of cost...but if you're looking for results it is worth it.

    A mid level priced product from Lancome that I think is worth every penny is Genifique serum and eye cream gel.

    You can make all the gay jokes you want, but because of extremely sensitive skin I have been using high end face care products since I was 14. I know what works, and what ingredients are abominable.

    A glycolic acid FACE PEEL or microdermabrasion that you can do at home or get it done professionally is actually the best way to go before doing any of the other intrusive therapies. I have never yet had to use any of these options.....key word being "yet". If I start seeing deep wrinkles this would be the first line of treatment I would use.

    Always wear SPF while out in the sun, and also cover your face when tanning. There are some all-natural SPF skin care products that I try to use with actual, but sometimes modest, results. Hydration is great, fitness, no smoking and limited drinking, etc etc etc.