front left deltoid just wont heal..

  • LuckyPierre

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    Dec 30, 2009 3:25 AM GMT
    It's been 3 weeks-and the only thing I can think I did was sleep with my arm up, under my head and kind of twisted. Ever since I have to be very careful what exercises I do-any weight going up sideways and it screams. I can go straight up behind the neck or curls are fine... move my elbow out and near shoulder level and that's the range of motion before pain... perhaps not the delt???

    I'm trying to sleep on my back or side with my arms down-but invariably I move and throw my left arm up over my head-to the point where I can barely move my arm in the morning... so... what can I do??? Sling it for a week or so and just do lower body? I've been sleeping the same way I sleep for about 44 years so that isnt going to change... If I sling it-it will help to prevent the 'ouch, fuck, damns' that happen during the course of the day when I move just the right way to catch the muscle...

    *sigh*

    Sorry-It's just getting old and I need to vent-and maybe someone has some help to offer.

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    Thanks!
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    Dec 30, 2009 3:33 AM GMT
    That aint "just getting old" ...poppycock! ... you are only 44, for christ's sake! ... icon_rolleyes.gif

    I had an extremely sore sartorius muscle (goes from outside hip to inside thigh and down to the knee). I tried working it to strengthen it, but it only got worse. I was really limping. A chiropractor friend saw it and said I needed a therapeutic massage. OMG! She was so spot on. The massage therapist worked that muscle and within a few sessions it was completely healed.

    Maybe you need to have your shoulder looked at and maybe massaging would help.
  • LuckyPierre

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    Dec 30, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    LOL-I didn't mean I was getting old-I meant the injury was getting old! icon_lol.gif

    I've had it massaged and it helps short term... also using icy/hot and such helps get thru a work out-but ultimately the 'soreness' comes back.

    Just a bit ago I was on the phone-and went to hold the phone between my cheek and shoulder to prevent dropping a glass-and OUCH... that movement all at once was painful. I didn't drop the glass-or the call, but I should have just dropped the phone. This is why I think I need to sling it for a bit... I keep just doing thing during the course of the day that irritates it.
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    Dec 30, 2009 4:04 AM GMT
    If it feels like an issue with your deltoid muscle, then try taking a real hot bath and soak for a bit. For me, Icy Hot isn't as effective as actual heat from a bath. Take it easy on your workouts until it feels better. Try switching to lighter weights and focusing on reps instead.

    If it feels like an issue with your shoulder joint, go see a doctor before resuming your workouts.
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    Dec 30, 2009 4:09 AM GMT
    JSnow789 saidLOL-I didn't mean I was getting old-I meant the injury was getting old! icon_lol.gif

    I've had it massaged and it helps short term... also using icy/hot and such helps get thru a work out-but ultimately the 'soreness' comes back.

    Was it a therapeutic massage? Not one of those deep tissue massages

    I would see a dr or chiropractor.
  • LuckyPierre

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    Dec 30, 2009 4:19 AM GMT
    I'm going to try to isolate it. Once I get back from the 1/17 cruise I'll go to the Doc if it's not better. Stupid Atlantis cruise... ;)
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    Dec 30, 2009 2:58 PM GMT
    I would get an appointment now - don't wait. It sounds similar to what I had earlier this year. Tendonosis. It's tendonitis that you haven't treated, so it got worse!

    I couldn't raise my left arm. The bicep tendon had scar tissue on it and it resulted in pain from movement. I believe that mine accelerated when I started doing exercises the wrong way (taught by a trained professional) and it aggravated the tendon.

    Spent a few months in physical therapy. What worked was the therapist had to "scrape" the scar tissue off the tendon, externally. It hurt but it worked.

    So go see a doctor. You will need your left arm to raise your glass on the cruise because your right hand will be reaching into to some guy's pants!
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    Jan 01, 2010 2:11 AM GMT
    Injuries suck, but if you keep working the area, then you're just going to make it worse. My advice would be to give your upper body a week off, and go from there. In the mean time, you could try scheduling a couple of massage sessions. I use my local massage therapy school because it's much, much cheaper. After a week if it's better you may be able to try light weights, if it's not then you should consult with your doctor because you're probably getting into more chronic stages, and may need some "help" to resolve the issue. A week's not going to make a difference in your body composition, and you can still work your legs, core, and do cardio. I learned the hard way to take care of an injury at the onset, rather than wait until it has progressed into later stages.

    Good luck.

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    Jan 01, 2010 2:18 AM GMT
    Schedule a doctor appt., get an xray, then get a MRI--if you got insurance. I would only do this if it kept on hurting. For now lay off it and take some Ibuprofen (religiously) to keep the swelling down; that will be $50 lol
    Had bilateral shoulder issues; the smallest tear can hurt like a m*%^&&er.
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    Jan 01, 2010 2:20 AM GMT
    Drink half a glass of bat urine daily for a week and you will good as new.
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    Jan 01, 2010 2:28 AM GMT
    Caslon: Does the urine have to be hot or cold? icon_confused.gif
  • LuckyPierre

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    Jan 01, 2010 8:48 PM GMT
    I'm happy to report that it is feeling better. icon_smile.gif I was able to upright row this morning with a really low weight-but it is something. I had full range of motion and so it's all good.

    and to Caslon-I've never understood the phrase-'I'd rather be pissed off than pissed on' either... Who wants to be all mad!!! ;)
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    Jan 02, 2010 12:02 AM GMT
    If you have bruising / bleeding, you've likely torn something which may indicate surgical repair.

    Folks tear tendons and don't realize it until some time after.

    Sometimes, though, it's just something that needs you to take a bit of a break. You may need to review your training methods to see if they are contributing to your problem.

    Hard to tell from here.
  • westdave

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    Jan 02, 2010 12:10 AM GMT
    you may have an overuse injury...aka tendonitis..........try icing the area twice a day for a week straight...and if you can (not allergic) take two ibuprofen as an anti-inflammatory...do not do perform the joint movement that antagonizes the joint then start back slowly....if it becomes worse, see your doctor
  • iamhman

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    Jan 07, 2010 5:33 PM GMT
    I had a very similar problem. The problem for me is a partial rotator cuff tear, a VERY common problem as men get older. I never remember an injury, but I suspect a common cause is letting a rack of heavy weights yank the shoulder as you finish a set. My diagnosis was made by MRI. I went to physical therapy and was surprised by how much it helped. In the last 2 years, I have had minor pains from time to time but none of the constant nagging pain I had before. I do shoulder strengthening exercises regularly at the gym and I am careful with the heavy weights. I am a physician. This is not my area of expertise, but certainly this could be the problem. I hope you find this educational and maybe helpful.
  • LuckyPierre

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    Jan 09, 2010 1:50 PM GMT
    iamhman saidI had a very similar problem. The problem for me is a partial rotator cuff tear, a VERY common problem as men get older. I never remember an injury, but I suspect a common cause is letting a rack of heavy weights yank the shoulder as you finish a set. My diagnosis was made by MRI. I went to physical therapy and was surprised by how much it helped. In the last 2 years, I have had minor pains from time to time but none of the constant nagging pain I had before. I do shoulder strengthening exercises regularly at the gym and I am careful with the heavy weights. I am a physician. This is not my area of expertise, but certainly this could be the problem. I hope you find this educational and maybe helpful.


    Thanks! I had a RC injury on my right shoulder a few years ago. This pain is way different. It's not 100% now, but it's better after I gave the shoulder/arm a rest. What really impacts it is how I sleep. My BF watches me sleep and will move my arm if I sleep with it where I want it-which is when it hurts the most.
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    Jan 09, 2010 8:56 PM GMT
    JSnow789 saidI'm happy to report that it is feeling better. icon_smile.gif I was able to upright row this morning with a really low weight-but it is something. I had full range of motion and so it's all good.



    The upright row is one of the " Five Exercises You Must Avoid" if you want to stay injury free.

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  • Nospam

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    Apr 03, 2010 1:57 AM GMT
    Try TAG glutamine...better delevery system.
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    Apr 03, 2010 2:23 AM GMT
    What Chucky said + RICE

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RICE_(medicine)

    You may want to see a doctor depending on the severity of the pain as, like Chucky previously stated, it could be you have torn something.

    I would also look to make sure in the future that your form is correct when lifting. Perhaps you tore something doing a lateral raise or whatnot. If the problem truly is just sleeping on the arm wrong, perhaps you could try using a surgical bandage to "splint" the arm along side your torso thereby preventing yourself from lifting the arm above your head in your sleep.
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    Apr 14, 2010 2:39 AM GMT
    Ganymede80 saidWhat Chucky said + RICE


    Yes, add at least one ASIAN to your sexual diet every day in addition to what Chucky said. icon_lol.gif