working out without supplements

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    Dec 30, 2009 4:43 PM GMT
    hey guys,

    i dont know if this has been asked already, but i was wondering if it is possible to gain mass without body building supplements. i know that it must be possible, i guess what my question is, how much slower is it or something along those lines. im not at all against the use of such products, i just dont know anything about them. so if you all could inform me a little on the basic/essential things i would be greatly appreciative.

    thanks guys
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    Dec 30, 2009 7:51 PM GMT
    You'll gain as long as your calories are greater then what you're burning off throughout the day.

    Supplements are just that, a supplement. They add to your diet. If you're having a hard time keeping up on calories, use them. Otherwise they aren't needed, and you'll just end up converting the extra intake to fat.
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    Dec 30, 2009 8:03 PM GMT
    Calories.

    If you consume more calories than you expend, you'll gain.
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    Dec 30, 2009 8:22 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidYou'll gain as long as your calories are greater then what you're burning off throughout the day.

    Supplements are just that, a supplement. They add to your diet. If you're having a hard time keeping up on calories, use them. Otherwise they aren't needed, and you'll just end up converting the extra intake to fat.


    Exactly.

    Personally I find it hard to get enough protein without supplementing, but it all depends on your calorie use vs consumption and what your target protein/carb/fat intake is. Best to figure out your maintenance level of calories (maybe using TDEE), then add to it so you just barely gain weight. For most people gaining 0.5lbs per week is optimal in order to inhibit fat gain. This usually translates into only a few hundred cals over your maintenance level. I really don't think you need all the chemicals (aka supplements) they sell at GNC in order to gain. Maybe just some protein powder.
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    Dec 31, 2009 12:14 AM GMT
    I always tell folks that if they want 40 grams of complete protein and amino acids, get a can of tuna.

    You can buy Vitargo (a good product), for a lot of money, or get some corn starch.

    The supplement industry is about peddling for profit. Much of it is CRAP.
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    Dec 31, 2009 1:20 AM GMT
    There are some substances that the body does create naturally for itself to help it grow. But many times not in sufficient quantity, and for only a short time, that it doesn't help all that much. So many supplements are synthesized in large quantities to enhance or add to the body's production of that same compound. For one obvious example: Creatine is created naturally in the body, but only for a short time, and then the effects are diminished quickly. By supplementing with more man-made but essentially the same type of creatine, and time-released, muscle growth is sustained and maintained. There are other naturally occurring substances and compounds that are created the same way, and react the same way, which is why supplements were originally created, to boost and add to the body's own limited supply. Now, a LOT of supplements ARE crap, true, but that is were research comes in. Really look into the causes and effects of any sup's you want to take. Then, go for it. I find, though, that of all the expenses incurred in getting into, or in better shape, supplements ARE the most costly.... but, if that's a cost you are willing to incur in getting into shape, well.....
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    Dec 31, 2009 2:20 AM GMT
    It's not all crap. I use different things, but, so much of it is.
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    Dec 31, 2009 4:04 AM GMT
    thanks alot guys!