3 Years Ago, Ryan Was Murdered

  • metta

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    Dec 31, 2009 1:02 AM GMT


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    Three years ago our son Ryan was murdered here in Florida, targeted because he was gay. A few weeks ago, the second of his two killers was sentenced to two consecutive life sentences.

    News outlets initially ignored Ryan's story and the local sheriff downplayed this his brutal murder.

    But Equality Florida would not allow Ryan's murder, nor the anti-gay hatred that motivated it, to be ignored.
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    http://eqfl.blogspot.com/2009/12/three-years-ago-our-son-ryan-was.html


  • drypin

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    Dec 31, 2009 1:35 AM GMT
    I'm not sure if it helps, but I sure hope his family finds some solace in the verdict and its execution.
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    Dec 31, 2009 3:18 AM GMT


    I hope they are not murdered in prison, but left to live long lives of regret ....locked up to always remember why they are there
  • NyRuinz

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    Dec 31, 2009 3:44 AM GMT
    This is my first time hearing about this story, this is so sad. icon_sad.gif
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    Dec 31, 2009 7:38 AM GMT
    the "whole eye for an eye thing" was actually a limiting mechanism, i.e., only an eye for an eye . . .
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    Dec 31, 2009 7:45 AM GMT
    Doesn’t Florida use “Old Sparky” anymore?




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    Dec 31, 2009 8:47 AM GMT
    Hate crimes like this are usually marked by "overkill" in this case being stabbed 19-20 times and also his throat cut. And as usual, the murderers tried to make the victim look bad ..

    According to Brian Winfield, spokesman for Equality Florida, "They've characterized Ryan as a pervert, a drug addict and a felon. In the eyes of the media, it didn't carry the human interest that it should have."

    see his wiki page:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Skipper
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    Dec 31, 2009 8:50 AM GMT
    . . . cry about it all you want . . real punishment has been made impossible by the sob sisters . . . your lefty bullshit has come back to haunt you . . .
  • metta

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    Dec 31, 2009 9:13 AM GMT
    Foundation: http://www.ryankeithskipper.com/

    Documentary: http://www.ryanskipperdocumentary.com/alertsnews.html

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3tNmA30XWQ

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    Dec 31, 2009 9:24 AM GMT
    so metta, you are hoping for what? . . . drawing and quartering in public?

    . . . the masses certainly don't care about anything except their next meal or the next episode of Wheel of Fortune . . . or the next public execution (which in our time is the NFL) . . .

    . . . so your rococo angst is designed to display your big big heart to your gay co-religionists on the left ? . . . it's all a bit strained and sad. . .

    . . you clearly want blood, but you don't have the balls to demand it . . . where is that Larry Kramer when we need him? . . .
  • metta

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    Dec 31, 2009 9:30 AM GMT
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    speak for yourself. I don't want blood. I'm fine with lifetime in prison. I'm not into an eye for an eye. I don't support capital punishment. I'm not asking for anything. I just think that people should be aware of this case so I'm sharing the information.
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    Dec 31, 2009 9:37 AM GMT
    . . . I'm not speaking for myself at all, so don't play that game . . . I'm trying to help you refine your inchoate, half-witted position . .

    . . . so you don't believe in rehabilitation at all? . . . such offenders couldn't be re-educated (maybe co-habit with meninlove for a few years) and come back into society and contribute anything at all?
  • BarettaB80

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    Dec 31, 2009 10:05 AM GMT
    Wow, some people here are so mean.....
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    Dec 31, 2009 10:15 AM GMT
    your blackness/blankness is apt . . . hey, Spinal Tap called, they want their album cover back . . .

    . . . now, back to the real point that the adults are contemplating. . . what to do with people who commit especially egregious heinous crimes . . .
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    Dec 31, 2009 11:42 AM GMT
    "An eye for an eye only makes the whole world go blind"
    - Gandhi

    violence begets violence, it's as simple as that.

    killing them... doesn't bring anyone back to life. It does no good.

    I wonder, if they are killed... or anyone in their same position... how would their families, their friends, the people that know and love them... how would they view gay people? Would they have learned from the crimes and mistakes of these guys? Or would they be more apt to take out their anger and hatred against gays?

    The answer seems obvious to me.

    I never understand that established "conservative" position of supporting the death penalty, while proposing the government stays out of people's lives. Capital punishment is the absolute involvement of the government in people's lives.

    I am, naturally, against capital punishment. Certain deaths... I wouldn't mourn, but, nonetheless, it does no good.

    Show me an execution which has prevented that crime from occurring again, and I'll show you a unicorn.
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    Dec 31, 2009 11:46 AM GMT
    I support capital punishment for such people. Why should they be given another chance when they enjoyed killing someone. What makes them on par with someone else. Did the person who died deserved to be dead without any reason. If he didn't deserve to die they don't deserve to live. Accidental death is on thing and planned murder is different.
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    Dec 31, 2009 12:00 PM GMT
    When fighting once again broke out between Hindus and Muslims in independence-seeking India, Gandhi went on hunger strike.

    One man came to him for advice. He was a Hindu. He said he had done terrible things that he could not redeem himself for. He said that after his family was killed, he had killed a Muslim child in retribution. He asked Gandhi what hope there was for him, what could he do to redeem himself?

    Gandhi told him to find a Muslim child orphaned by the fighting, and to raise him as his own... and to raise him as a Muslim.



    Tolerance can not be taught with murder.
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    Dec 31, 2009 12:10 PM GMT
    BarettaB80 saidWow, some people here are so mean.....


    "So mean" is a very nice way of saying it. He has nothing polite to say and only attacks people.

    "Ignore his posts" is a cure, as long as people don't quote him anymore, it will be a lot more peaceful.
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    Dec 31, 2009 10:01 PM GMT
    I have no problem with the death penalty in certain circumstances: this looks like it might be one of them.