Effective July 5 of this year WI will be smokefree

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    Jan 02, 2010 1:06 PM GMT
    Effective July 5 of this year, the entire state of WI will be smoke free, making it illegal to light up in any public facility, including bars, restaurants, bowling alleys, factories, hotels, and even Lambeau Field, home of the Green Bay Packers.

    This has gone through a heated battle and even into the courts by smokers, who feel their rights are being taken away, but I do believe that this is necessary because it has been scientifically proven that second hand smoke does cause serious health problems. People have gotten lung cancer and other diseases and health problems directly related to second hand smoke.

    Appleton has had this law for a couple years now, but because other neighboring cities had not followed suit, it caused bars, restaurants, and hotels in Appleton to lose a lot of business to smokers who took their business to neighboring cities instead. But Appleton is now happy that on July 5, the entire state will be smoke free.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 02, 2010 4:29 PM GMT
    That is great news, a midwestern state declares itself smoke free. Congratulations to the people of the beautiful State of Wisconsin. icon_biggrin.gif
  • Celticmusl

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    Jan 02, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
    The more I hear about WI the more I like it, especially the new progress in gay rights.

    Ohio went smoke-free a few years ago. It prompted me to start going to the gay clubs again, which before I used to hate to go since I would wreak of smoke when I left the bar, and also I felt sick and it would feel like I had a hangover the next day, even when I didn't drink.

    It is amazing how much more enjoyable going out to dinner, music concerts, or going out to drinks can be again.

    Enjoy it in good health WI!
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    Jan 02, 2010 4:44 PM GMT
    the NYTimes has an article today about the "open secret" of smoking in bars and clubs, in spite of the bloomberg smoking ban.
    anyways, smoking bans work overall -- so good luck wisconsin. icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 02, 2010 4:46 PM GMT
    I think it's crazy that we prosecute companies for putting out products that make people sick or die, spawning recalls and inquiries and stuff like that. Or other products, which are addictive in nature, must be prescribed by a physician.

    Except for cigarettes and tobacco products. How queer.

    I'm a former smoker myself, and occasionally, when I'm drinking, I slip. But still, I look forward to the day when these products can no longer be marketed. Seriously, this stuff is just flat out toxic.

    All in all, I think it should be banned in public venues, since people who don't smoke shouldn't be forced to (via second hand smoke) by those who do. It's no big thing to step outside to light up, or to go to a designated area. Since second hand smoke has been linked to cancers and other ailments, arguing about this is not unlike saying they should be allowed to drive when they're drunk.

    That's just me though.
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    Jan 02, 2010 4:52 PM GMT
    We're smoke free in Charlotte in bars and restaurants as of today. When you consider that this is a tobacco production state, and we now have county officials pushing for a statewide ban on smoking it really makes a statement.
  • camfer

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    Jan 02, 2010 5:04 PM GMT
    Not only is second hand smoke harmful, but also third hand smoke. In any locale where there's been smokers, the carpets, walls, ceilings, furniture, drapes, etc all contain harmful toxins from coming into contact with the smoke. There is really no way to remove them.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/03/health/research/03smoke.html
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    Jan 02, 2010 5:21 PM GMT
    I find the majority of people very friendly here. We do have our creeps as any place does. But the worst part of living here is our long winters. Our weather is not a picnic lol, unless you are a cold, snow, and ice fanatic. Instead of any kind of global warming, we are actually experiencing the very opposite here, with record setting cold temps, snow, and ice. In fact today we have a wind chill advisory of -30 degrees below 0. If you have never lived in a climate this cold before, it can be quite a culture shock. You don't just throw a coat on and walk out the door. You have to layer yourself with a lot of clothes. However, this does keep a large segment of our population employed here in the winter time with snow and ice removal and many times these storms come on holidays when you can get double time and make a lot of money. My brother has his own snow removal business and it generates a major part of his income every year. But in these jobs you have to work some really long hours and on holidays because jobs like this can not wait until tomorrow. Tomorrow people will be dead, if it isn't removed immediately. It's a real challenge sometimes to keep roads safe around here in the winter time. Many people lose their life here in the winter time due to snow and ice on the roads. You can be the safest driver on earth, but the next guy isn't and takes your life away. That's why even with all the terrorism today, I would much rather fly than drive. You are 10 times more likely to get killed in a car accident here than on a plane. Airline travel is still the safest means of transportation today.

    But, man, I wish we could get a little global warming here. In 2009, my air conditioner ran only 3 days!!!! It was so cold here last July, that they actually closed our pool a whole week due to the cold. Our weather has been extremely cold even in the summer and it hampers outdoor activiity like swimming, fishing, boating, camping etc.

    That's why I want to leave WI and go to a warmer climate, not because of the people, but just because of our weather. It's really brutal sometimes and school and basketball games and every other event is always getting canceled due to weather. And the shipping industry is a nightmare here. There are packages that come from warmer climates that says, "DO NOT FREEZE." Are people really this ignorant? What are we suppose to do about it? Do people actually think that these trailers have any heat in them? The package cars themselves do not have any heat in the package area. If you ship anything in the upper midwest here in the winter, I guarantee you it will freeze. It's not going to do any good to put on your package, "DO NOT FREEZE." lol
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    Jan 02, 2010 5:23 PM GMT
    Runninchlt saidWe're smoke free in Charlotte in bars and restaurants as of today. When you consider that this is a tobacco production state, and we now have county officials pushing for a statewide ban on smoking it really makes a statement.
    pity the state of Louisiana can't be entirely smoke free! restaurants here have been smoke free for a couple of years now; if only bars would be forced to become smoke free! it almost happened last year; but not quite.

    my favorite bar in my gay-friendly neighborhood has the worst ventilation system! i enjoy going there on sunday afternoons for the Saints football games and the delicious half time buffet; but usually by the end of the third quarter the recurculated, regurgated second/third/fourth.....hand cigarette smoke has me lurching for the door.

    everytime i visit the bars here my clothes are dumped into the washer as soon as i get home, as they REEK of stale tobacco smoke. icon_sad.gif
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    Jan 02, 2010 5:33 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidThat is great news, a midwestern state declares itself smoke free. Congratulations to the people of the beautiful State of Wisconsin. icon_biggrin.gif


    Iowa went smoke-free a couple years ago, and we have gay marriage! But, Iowa was kinda sleazy in allowing casinos to be exempt from the smoking ban.
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    Jan 02, 2010 5:41 PM GMT
    when the restaurants here went smoke free, they naysayers were bleating that not being able to smoke would kill most of the business in this tourist town.

    didn't happen! icon_rolleyes.gif

    bars are next......
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    Jan 02, 2010 5:44 PM GMT
    jimbobthedevil saidI think it's crazy that we prosecute companies for putting out products that make people sick or die, spawning recalls and inquiries and stuff like that. Or other products, which are addictive in nature, must be prescribed by a physician.

    Except for cigarettes and tobacco products. How queer.

    I'm a former smoker myself, and occasionally, when I'm drinking, I slip. But still, I look forward to the day when these products can no longer be marketed. Seriously, this stuff is just flat out toxic.

    All in all, I think it should be banned in public venues, since people who don't smoke shouldn't be forced to (via second hand smoke) by those who do. It's no big thing to step outside to light up, or to go to a designated area. Since second hand smoke has been linked to cancers and other ailments, arguing about this is not unlike saying they should be allowed to drive when they're drunk.

    That's just me though.


    I agree with you that in many respects, smoking is more harmful and deadly than some of the illegal drugs we have. I saw with my own eyes my sister in law's mother just gasping for air because of emphesema caused by her life of smoking. And you don't just die right away. She was in the hospital for over a year before she passed away. There was hope that they could get her to recover enough to be at home, but it never happened and she died. But can you imagine the medical expence this was? And my sister in law saw it, too, and do you think she will quit? I don't say a thing to her about her smoking because I don't believe in nagging people about this, but I can't believe she keeps lighting up and inhaling that poison into her body.
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    Jan 02, 2010 5:50 PM GMT
    rnch saidwhen the restaurants here went smoke free, they naysayers were bleating that not being able to smoke would kill most of the business in this tourist town.

    didn't happen! icon_rolleyes.gif

    bars are next......


    My impression is that bars in Iowa have been pretty hard hit by the smoking ban. Bars that have access to suitable outdoor space are making smoking patios.
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    Jan 02, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
    sorry, the person who died was my sister-in-law's mother, not my sister-in- law, but she is going to follow suit. She already can not even climb 1 flight of stairs because of her smoking and she is only 3 years older than me. I just don't understand some people.
  • ATLANTIS7

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    Jan 02, 2010 6:12 PM GMT
    Good News ! Turkey already did it lastyear?
    l have never smoked and never taken drugs and wil not even take an aspirin as l prefer natural!
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    Jan 02, 2010 6:16 PM GMT
    This is great news. Finally I can go to fish fry on Friday nights and not gag on the smoke.

    Hats off to Wisconsin but at the same time I prefer less interference from the government and more common sense from the cinstituents.
  • bradsmith

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    Jan 02, 2010 6:22 PM GMT
    Banning smoking in all public places is fantastic...its nice to be able to go out for a night and not come home smelling of smoke!! Madison has banned smoking for several years now and its always a rude awakening when we visit some place that still allows smoking. And hopefully the total ban will level the playing field for all restaurants and bars instead of the current patchwork quilt of bans...and yes, definitely looking forward to more smoke-free Friday night Fish Frys!!

    Y'all come and visit now, ya hear?!

    Oh, and the weather is NOT that bad...winter should be enjoyed...a sunny, cold crisp day...like today in fact...is a joy...yes, its takes your breath away...but how many things do that anymore?! (grin)

    Happy New Year everyone!
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    Jan 02, 2010 6:34 PM GMT
    Ugh... it was -11°F when I woke up this morning, and it has only warmed up to -4°F. I don't mind winter, but lows in the 20s are more to my liking.
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    Jan 02, 2010 6:44 PM GMT
    BodrumBoy saidGood News ! Turkey already did it lastyear?
    l have never smoked and never taken drugs and wil not even take an aspirin as l prefer natural!


    I tried smoking once when I was 12 due to peer pressure and I gagged and barfed--never again! I've never taken illegal drugs either and although I have taken some over the counter meds and some prescribed meds, I am as healthy as can be right now and I am totally med free. It is a blessing and I pray that I can stay this way for a long time.
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    Jan 02, 2010 8:46 PM GMT
    Congratulations! I have enjoyed being in a relatively smoke free state having moved from one that was more "smoky".

    It really is a joy to be able to go out to various places and not come home smelling like a pack of cigarettes and feeling nauseous from the smoke .. it makes a world of difference.
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    Jan 02, 2010 8:54 PM GMT
    Arizona has been that way for 3 years now, I love it!

    I still have to kick the occasional customer outside at the restaurant I work at. I usually ask "where are you from?", when they carelessly light up in the middle of their meal, more often than not, they reply "Oh, I'm from here, I thought it didn't matter in bars...". BAH, yeah right! You just thought I wouldn't have the balls to enforce our state's law....
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    Jan 02, 2010 9:35 PM GMT
    I was back home in WI for the holidays and it was weird seeing people smoke in a restaurant. I'm glad to hear they are banning it now.

    I wonder how this is going to fly in bowling alleys. I bowled in a kids' league for over 10 years. I still remember how the stench of cigarettes still filled the alley on Saturday mornings.

    Oh, and real Wisconsinites go to fish boils, not fish frys. icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 02, 2010 9:54 PM GMT
    smoke-free bars and cheese curds, wisconsin gets some things right!
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    Jan 02, 2010 10:11 PM GMT
    Yay, I knew my b-day would bring about something good yay
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    Jan 02, 2010 10:13 PM GMT
    Independence Day is going to be a big celebration for us this year--free from smoke. icon_smile.gif