The theory of everlusion, and being an athiest made me do it said:

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    Jan 06, 2010 9:16 AM GMT
    Jeff Dahmer.

    I had read a few books regarding Jeff and his murderous rampage, before being stoped. But I'de read very little if anything at all, about his life behind bars. I was not shocked he become a Christain, as you have a lot of me time in jail to think and ponder. People will also do things like go to church, just to do something diffrent. So in many ways it does not shock me that Jeff got baptised and allegedly become a christian.

    But to blame all his evil acts on the theory of evolution, and being an atheist, is just bullshit. If he did that he never repented for one, he just moved the blame!

    But then he is no better than people like "Jimmy swagged", claiming " Demons" made him do it.

    Gees why do so many people have trouble saying "OK I fucked up!" ? Why do so many people have to pass the buck, and not stand corrected for their actions?
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    Jan 06, 2010 5:41 PM GMT
    You cite an extreme case of man who was an insane psychopath. So, it's not likely he would have been able to reason logically. I do agree that many people don't take responsibility for their behavior. Obvious examples are politicians and celebrities.
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    Jan 06, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
    Oddly enough it was Jimmy Swaggert who first got me interested in Ozzy Osbourne back in the 80's. I thought "Anyone who is any sort of opposition to this douche bag can't be all that bad." And thus began my love affair with Ozzy & Black Sabbath... Randy Rhoads was amazing... but I'm a strict Zakk Wylde camp kinda guy.

    As far as Jeffrey Dahmer is concerned, he was a psychopath with severe mental instability. I'm sure his totally abnormal behavior was puzzling even to him. When given the time to think about it, blaming the absence of God is just as rational as people who credit the presence for their "appropriate" behavior. A desperate grasp to make sense of something they don't understand in both cases.

    Did you have insomnia last night too? I was smiling at your grammar, not in a judgmental way, but in an ahhhh-I'm-so-glad-I-wasn't-the-only-one-unable-to-sleep-last-night way. icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 06, 2010 7:40 PM GMT
    EasilDistrac. I'll agree Jeff was extreme in his actions, yet still so human in his shifting of the blame. I truly thought he would of had the balls to step up to the plate. I myself have a faith, but it's not what makes me be good, I did that already. But if there is a hell it may well be my last action that puts me there as I support euthanasia.

    As for me grammar, it ain't gonna get any better soon either, it become even more entertaining when I don't go over what I've just written and just post it or I've got old reading glasses on. But as soon as I pulled this up this morning one grammar mistake stood out to me.
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    Jan 06, 2010 8:25 PM GMT
    Pattison saidEasilDistrac. I'll agree Jeff was extreme in his actions, yet still so human in his shifting of the blame. I truly thought he would of had the balls to step up to the plate. I myself have a faith, but it's not what makes me be good, I did that already. But if there is a hell it may well be my last action that puts me there as I support euthanasia.

    My former sister in-law tells her kids... "Make good decisions".
    That's all we can try to do, if there is a hell and I go there for doing the best I can with what I have, then I'll gladly go... I'll probably be in better company than the alternative.

    Pattison saidAs for me grammar, it ain't gonna get any better soon either, it become even more entertaining when I don't go over what I've just written and just post it or I've got old reading glasses on. But as soon as I pulled this up this morning one grammar mistake stood out to me.

    Your grammar is perfect and charming the way it is, I would not have it any other way, thank you for sharing your thoughts, they make my world a better place.
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    Jan 06, 2010 8:56 PM GMT
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    Pattison saidEasilDistrac. I'll agree Jeff was extreme in his actions, yet still so human in his shifting of the blame. I truly thought he would of had the balls to step up to the plate. I myself have a faith, but it's not what makes me be good, I did that already. But if there is a hell it may well be my last action that puts me there as I support euthanasia.

    My former sister in-law tells her kids... "Make good decisions".
    That's all we can try to do, if there is a hell and I go there for doing the best I can with what I have, then I'll gladly go... I'll probably be in better company than the alternative.

    Pattison saidAs for me grammar, it ain't gonna get any better soon either, it become even more entertaining when I don't go over what I've just written and just post it or I've got old reading glasses on. But as soon as I pulled this up this morning one grammar mistake stood out to me.

    Your grammar is perfect and charming the way it is, I would not have it any other way, thank you for sharing your thoughts, they make my world a better place.


    Yes to make good decisions is important, But I've had times when I've fucked up by making the wrong decision, yet I always try to find a way to learn from it, or get a positive out of it; sadly we do learn from screwing up.

    But alot of the blame for Dahmer's actions was put on his parents separation, and neither of them wanted him, it was his younger brother they fought over. So it has been said the rejection of his parents made him do it, because as soon as someone went to leave, he did them in, even ate parts of them.

    I'm not sure about putting so much blame on the parents. I was not born but kicked and told to get out, I was nothing more than something she had removed. So when I was molested at 5 and looked at this as tender touch, and not abuse, my Pa 100% rejected me, looked down on me as something dirty, and I hurt his pride too. All I ever wanted was to grow up to be good. Well against all my trails and tribulations in life, I've done that. I would hurt myself before hurting another, and there have been times I've fucked up and wanted to say nothing, but I put my hand up.

    So just because your childhood i traumatic, and abusive, does not mean you will grow up to be fucked up. I know many who got it better than I, and they are out of work, have no direction, yet their parents loved them.