Accused of Sexism


  • Jan 07, 2010 11:33 PM GMT
    I have been accused of being sexist for some of the things I have said in the past. Most of the time I don't realize it when I say it. This past fall, I was taking Sociology class online, and one of the chapters was about Gender. We had a discussion board question that asked, "Why are there gender roles?" From personal experience and my own opinion, I said women have hands that are more equipped to do household work than men. Having no idea of my orientation, there were a couple people bitching to me that is the most ridiculous thing they have ever heard, but I wasn't trying to hurt anyone. Has anyone else here had problems of sexism towards women? Comments would be greatly appreciated.
  • drypin

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    Jan 07, 2010 11:47 PM GMT
    Hmm. I haven't had these accusations. I will say that your comment strikes me as pretty absurd, but I wouldn't call it sexist as much as, perhaps, poorly thought out or expressed.
  • creature

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    Jan 08, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
    I've never been accused of sexism.

    As far as your response to the question, I think it was a bit, um... ignorant? Skewed? I'm not trying to insult you, but I myself was surprised by your answer. Your answer should've centered, at least in my opinion, around the fact that women bear children. To secure survival (of a family, clan, community, tribe, kingdom, etc.) you need offspring. And before the modern age, women were producing quite a bit of children. So for a good portion of their lives, women were in delicate situations. After all, you don't want them to be in a compromising situation that would cause a miscarriage. Also, before modern times, women often died during childbirth and men can go on contributing to making babies for as long as their bodies allow, which is longer then a women's contribution to producing children.

    All the factors above most likely factored into creating chauvinistic thinking which had men thinking they were the stronger sex, which shaped the gender roles you still see today.
  • JP85257

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    Jan 08, 2010 12:09 AM GMT
    Why dont women need watches?

    There is a clock on the stove.

    Why do brides wear white?

    So they match the rest of the appliances


    Thats sexist.
  • calibro

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    Jan 08, 2010 6:05 AM GMT
    no, i'd have to agree that i would take that as a sexist comment. that's just a ridiculous assertion.
  • danisnotstr8

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    Jan 08, 2010 6:15 AM GMT
    Why are women's feet so small?
    So they can stand closer to the sink.

    I cannot believe you said that. I can't even believe you thought it. You might be the sharpest tool in the box... but you're still a tool.
  • Webster666

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    Jan 08, 2010 6:27 AM GMT
    I'm wondering what there is about a woman's hands that makes her more equipped to do housework...
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    Jan 08, 2010 6:27 AM GMT
    You realize that your orientation has nothing to do with your ability to be sexist, right? And if that's what you actually think, then you are indeed a sexist prig.
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    Jan 08, 2010 6:33 AM GMT
    This is what Jane McLoughlin author of "The Democratic Revolution" who predicted that in the future, would wear men as fashion accessories, like an alligator handbag. If you think she was joking think again, here is what Jane McLoughlin has to say:

    One of the anthropological pleasures of the 1990s will be watching how men cope with the new role-that of the redundant male. New technology will wipe out their traditional advantages at work, favoring as it does female skills based on dexterity, not strength. An influx of skilled mature women into the workforce will erode the self protective isolation on which me have built their authority. Now I say that was sexist, and on men liberating women, we failed to liberate ourselves.icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 08, 2010 6:35 AM GMT
    it's more then sexist, it's incredibly stupid..

    I've more dexterity in my hands then most women, should I spend my life cleaning up after some pig? I think not.

    The only thing a women can do that a man cant is give birth and even then they need a fella to accomplish it.... at least for now..

    Men and Women have there strengths but that doesn't mean shit since for each person it differs.
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    Jan 08, 2010 6:40 AM GMT
    That was a sexist thing to say.
    We discussed gender in our communications class, though, and I presented the other side of the issue with regards to advertising. In my class, women were very sensitive to sexism towards their own gender, but completely oblivious to it in advertising that portrayed men as fucking idiots. Ads and television commercials, as well as sitcoms all portray men as immature, unthinking dolts to appeal not to the female sense of equality, but to their sense of superiority. We men don't know how to vacuum, use cleaning products, shop, cook, clean up after ourselves, take care of children or even dress.
    The American media sells this image of the dependent, emotionally and intellectually undeveloped male to women as a way of appealing to their vanity as consumers. This practice is also sexists, but it flatters the female ego, so it not only continues, but does so with great success.
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    Jan 08, 2010 6:48 AM GMT
    Continue on what Jane had to say: More than a quarter of live births are outside marriage, marginalising the father in the family, he will no longer automatically be the only, or even the main breadwinner. As a final nail in the male coffin by the mid 1990s it will be simple for single women who want children to become pregnant though artificial insemination, this is already available to limited number of women in specialist private clinics, and could well pave way to be a viable alternative for women to the old fashioned male-female parental relationship!"

    Do you think she may be a feminazi?
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    Jan 08, 2010 7:14 AM GMT
    I think you deserved the shit you got for that comment... just sayin..icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Jan 08, 2010 7:56 AM GMT
    This whole issue really chaps my ass - they are always wanking and whining about some crap until they can't open the pickles or tighten a screw or want some sperm. I dated em, fucked em and raised kids with them and you can count me out re pussy -
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    Jan 08, 2010 9:02 AM GMT
    Men are superior!

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    Jan 08, 2010 9:50 AM GMT
    why don't you ask your mother? She would gladly tell you the answer
  • coolarmydude

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    Jan 08, 2010 12:04 PM GMT
    I think your point about women's hands can be viewed as sexist is because you didn't provide any facts or sound theories to back it up. Otherwise, it's a stereotype. And how do you explain women's hands in the ages before appliances?
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    Jan 08, 2010 12:08 PM GMT
    jawrhed saidThis whole issue really chaps my ass - they are always wanking and whining about some crap until they can't open the pickles or tighten a screw or want some sperm. I dated em, fucked em and raised kids with them and you can count me out re pussy -



    HAHA! Over the holidays, my Mom had a difficult time with a jar. She handed it to me and my stepfather wanted to show off his "man hands", so I tapped the jar on the side of the lid onto the counter, to my mother and stepfather's consternation, then I twisted the lid without removing it and set it on the counter. Just when I did that, my stepfather reached over and grabbed the jar and then realized that I already opened the jar. The moral of the story is that the mind is the strongest muscle...icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 08, 2010 12:55 PM GMT
    That really was a stupid comment. What did you get for a grade in the course? (all my fears about on-line education validated.)
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    Jan 08, 2010 4:03 PM GMT
    Were you serious? That might have been one of the most ridiculous things I've heard to date. I'll be sure to tell my mom and 4 sisters that one just to get some feedback for you as well!


    Ps, Hands come in various shapes and sizes just Like Dicks!...... believe it or not.
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    Jan 08, 2010 4:12 PM GMT
    jawrhed saidThat was a sexist thing to say.
    We discussed gender in our communications class, though, and I presented the other side of the issue with regards to advertising. In my class, women were very sensitive to sexism towards their own gender, but completely oblivious to it in advertising that portrayed men as fucking idiots. Ads and television commercials, as well as sitcoms all portray men as immature, unthinking dolts to appeal not to the female sense of equality, but to their sense of superiority. We men don't know how to vacuum, use cleaning products, shop, cook, clean up after ourselves, take care of children or even dress.
    The American media sells this image of the dependent, emotionally and intellectually undeveloped male to women as a way of appealing to their vanity as consumers. This practice is also sexists, but it flatters the female ego, so it not only continues, but does so with great success.


    I'm digging this theory. Is there any literature you can suggest that elaborates on this kind of thought? Or is this something arrived at independently?
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    Jan 08, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
    My mom wanted me to tell you that the only reason she bore 7 children was because her breast were so large she felt she had tons of milk to drink. She's told my sister who has tiny titty's to adopt cuz the tank lks to be empty.....The other 3 she's suggested a number to fit breast sizes.
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    Jan 08, 2010 4:40 PM GMT
    I can see how that comment could be seen as sexist as "household work" is a social structure based around the "domestication" of women into the service of men, as much as the idea that their hands are better suited to that (and really, who hasn't seen a woman struggle to open a jar of pickles).

    Anyway the bitches should just shut, get into the kitchen and make me some sammiches!
  • JP85257

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    Jan 08, 2010 5:01 PM GMT
    WOW.. The feminization of america is what this is.

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    Jan 08, 2010 11:00 PM GMT
    Feminism is another of those topics which has established itself in the political correctness hall of fame. As such is not fashionable to take issue with or poke fun at the philosophy which underlies this movment. Those who have the courage to do so are quickly impugned as women-haters, bigots, chauvinists, sexist, and a host of other epithets. name-calling becomes the substitute for meaningful debate of the issues and it works quit well in the political arena. Thats unfortunate because the name-calling while it may have a chilling effect on genuine discussion of issues, does nothing to satisfy the millions of people who share the views of those who are the targets of those insults.